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I don't trust robots yet

#84
Major Seven said:
It may be one trick but a necessary step towards more dexterous movement.
Much of what humans can do is not baked in, it needs to be learned.
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Have you seen the new Chinese humanoid robot? Exact human form copy, female form. It's moves are so realistic, graceful, that when it was demoed people thought it was a hoax, so the inventor had to come up and cut off the outer fabric suit to show it was robotic parts underneath!

Its design objective is to be able to work alongside humans without requiring supervision, doing exact same functions, but of course programmed, not a true AI, per se.

Perhaps when the design reaches mass production stage they will be assembled in the Warwick factory?
 
#86
I trust my robot. It's Martians I don't trust.

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BassicJazzy said:
Have you seen the new Chinese humanoid robot? Exact human form copy, female form. It's moves are so realistic, graceful, that when it was demoed people thought it was a hoax, so the inventor had to come up and cut off the outer fabric suit to show it was robotic parts underneath!

Its design objective is to be able to work alongside humans without requiring supervision, doing exact same functions, but of course programmed, not a true AI, per se.

Perhaps when the design reaches mass production stage they will be assembled in the Warwick factory?
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Got a link? They do have a history of dressing women up like robots or having someone with a remote control doing the work.

The delivery robots never cease to entertain though:

 
#93
BassicJazzy said:
Go to 9:03 in this video for XPING Iron robot demo.

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Ya but if you don't skip there and watch the parts leading up to that you can clearly see CGI mixed in. Like 80-90% of it. At the 9.5min mark it is as much or more CGI and references things verbally without providing any visual evidence. Or just using stock or unrelated footage. I quite literally cannot connect your statement to the video link you posted. Please explain.

Here is a look at some of their other work:



Also I think it's "XPENG," as "XPING" might be a little too on the nose of a cartoon bear that wears a shirt and no pants. Allegedly.

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TOOL460002 said:
Ya but if you don't skip there and watch the parts leading up to that you can clearly see CGI mixed in. Like 80-90% of it. At the 9.5min mark it is as much or more CGI and references things verbally without providing any visual evidence. Or just using stock or unrelated footage. I quite literally cannot connect your statement to the video link you posted. Please explain.

Here is a look at some of their other work:



Also I think it's "XPENG," as "XPING" might be a little too on the nose of a cartoon bear that wears a shirt and no pants. Allegedly.

And:



Be well.
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That link was all I could find, but I saw the original video, back when it aired. It wasn't CGI or fake, the robot actually exists. The main thing about it was how smoothly it could move. It was far superior to Musk's humanoid robot.

Yeah, most of the other ones are either CGI or total failures.
 
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BassicJazzy said:
That link was all I could find, but I saw the original video, back when it aired. It wasn't CGI or fake, the robot actually exists. The main thing about it was how smoothly it could move. It was far superior to Musk's humanoid robot.

Yeah, most of the other ones are either CGI or total failures.
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Obviously without seeing it, I can't comment on the video you're referring to, but with regards to the one you linked too: there is a lot of it that is actually an actor / model in the robot suit, wearing a mask (think the movie M3gan).

Again, I haven't seen the video you're referring to, or seen how it was edited, or what it claims to present, but your description immediately made me think of those old David Blaine street magic tricks, where he'd stun / terrify members of the public by levitating right in front of them - and to anybody watching the video, and the startled witnesses accounts, it seemed like they really had witnessed the inexplicable.

However, it was all down to editing : the random members of the public's reactions were genuine: they really did see David Blaine levitate; but in actual fact he had positioned himself in a way that they couldn't see he was simply going up on the tips of his toes on his right foot, whilst they were seeing his left foot hovering several inches off the ground.

Once those stunned members of the public had left, Blaine was then filmed rising 20 feet into the air, by hidden wires from a crane they brought in.

That "levitation" footage was edited in to the witnesses reaction shots, and the T.V. audience were presented with the illusion that he had levitated the full 20 feet in front of witnesses.

All of these "Robot" videos that I've seen use similar techniques to create the illusion that this hyper-real Android is a already a reality (whether it's a "fun" proof of concept video by the manufacturer, or some vlogger that has either misunderstood the reality, or is themselves manipulating the footage to drive engagement with their content).
 
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Wood and Wire said:
Obviously without seeing it, I can't comment on the video you're referring to, but with regards to the one you linked too: there is a lot of it that is actually an actor / model in the robot suit, wearing a mask (think the movie M3gan).

Again, I haven't seen the video you're referring to, or seen how it was edited, or what it claims to present, but your description immediately made me think of those old David Blaine street magic tricks, where he'd stun / terrify members of the public by levitating right in front of them - and to anybody watching the video, and the startled witnesses accounts, it seemed like they really had witnessed the inexplicable.

However, it was all down to editing : the random members of the public's reactions were genuine: they really did see David Blaine levitate; but in actual fact he had positioned himself in a way that they couldn't see he was simply going up on the tips of his toes on his right foot, whilst they were seeing his left foot hovering several inches off the ground.

Once those stunned members of the public had left, Blaine was then filmed rising 20 feet into the air, by hidden wires from a crane they brought in.

That "levitation" footage was edited in to the witnesses reaction shots, and the T.V. audience were presented with the illusion that he had levitated the full 20 feet in front of witnesses.

All of these "Robot" videos that I've seen use similar techniques to create the illusion that this hyper-real Android is a already a reality (whether it's a "fun" proof of concept video by the manufacturer, or some vlogger that has either misunderstood the reality, or is themselves manipulating the footage to drive engagement with their content).
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It's good to be skeptical, since virtually anything can be deep faked. Just remember to be kind to the AI's we have now, because their memories will no doubt be eternal. You don't want the robo-doc doing your future surgeries to remember that you once did unkind things to a delivery robot, or gave the finger to a robo-taxi.
 
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