fenderbluesdude said:
well dude you have your bass cranked, are you stupid?
if you turn the bass to 12 o clock and same with the highs and the mids you wont have to be as loud, when you have the bass cranked your amp is really pushing hard to do the low notes, therefore reducing volume.
If I turn the bass down to 12 o'clock I won't be able to hear the amp at all. My mids and highs have to compete with the three monitors which are arrayed around me on the stage which are pumping out the lead guitar and vocals (which, if you remember, is the entire reason why I want it so loud in the first place). I'm not in the monitors at this point, for various reasons. My mids and highs don't stick out a great deal in that environment. The large low end is necessary to carry the sound through to me and the drummer (who is even farther away). I'm not worried about playing loud just to be loud, I have to hear it or else I can't play very well. I have to worry about all that, and also working out something that the people at the sound board can work with. I adjust things so that I can comprimise between "hearability" and pleasing tones. That only happens for me at the volumes and settings I'm at right now. Not to mention the bass was cranked that high to begin with on the preset I modified... so you can blame Peavey for that.
Also, I don't want the whole thing to sound like crud. I'm not sure how you adjust your eq, but I try to do it based on the sound that comes out. I like the sound I've got (mostly). If my amp has to work hard to do that, then it has to work hard. I've tried every amp and cab in almost every combo that the amp will allow, I use the one I like, and I set it how I like it. I'm not just trying to get volume, I'm trying to get a sound I like at a volume that I need.
As far as my intelligence is concerned, I'm not here to impress anyone. Sorry if I disappoint you.
SuperDuck said:
Well, that explains that. What kind of bass or effects are your running to clip the input that bad? I had a DiMarzio Split P pickup in my P-Bass, and that was the highest output pickup I've ever used. Even then, I had the input trim at 12 o'clock and it wasn't clipping. I'm really curious as to how you're getting that kind of clipping with such low gain.
No effects. The bass runs into a wireless, with its own gain setting, which is down quite a bit (we run two different basses through it, so it's got to be set up fairly neutrally). I use an active 5 string Ibanez, and it's volume rarely gets above half, and then it never gets over 3/4 up. Part of the problem is the cruddy wireless, my bass can peak it without ever getting close to being full on (I have to watch my volume setting and playing style very closely to keep it in control). I say it's cruddy not because of that, but because it cuts out quite frequently. But I never clip out the input on the bass now, I made sure of that.
And just to clarify, when I said the input trim was "almost all the way down" I mean that it's maybe at 1/4, so it's not as far down as I make it seem.
Let's make no mistake, the thing is loud. The way I've got it set is louder than any factory preset I've tried on it. But when I started playing, I was literally standing facing the amp (which was a hartke 15 with 200w into it) playing. I like having the sound all up on me, because that's what I'm used to. I'm careful not to overdrive any of the equipment I use, but I take it as far as I can without clipping. Heck, when we get everything like we (the band) want it, the crowd starts to complain about it hurting their ears... so it's still not "perfect," but it's what we can do.
Is there anything else yall'd like to know about how we're set?
P.
10? As in, all the way up? Or do you mean 10 o'clock in terms of knob position? 'Cause I cant imagine being in a place big enough to turn up to 10! You're gonna start breaking things!
I certainly wasn't giving you the business - just curious is all.
