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- Oct 31, 2006
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apparently people have personal preferences. who knew!!
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I just don’t get it
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apparently people have personal preferences. who knew!!
To the OP:
I don’t seek vintage tone. (I owners Bassman, a 360, a Model T, a. RB800, all brand new except the 360).
I love modern, lightweight gear.
I have a $3k Elrick and a $200 Squire P5.
Both get equal play time.
I don’t seek vintage tone. (I owners Bassman, a 360, a Model T, a. RB800, all brand new except the 360).
I love modern, lightweight gear.
I have a $3k Elrick and a $200 Squire P5.
Both get equal play time.
but new bacon is just not tuned the way the old bacon was. some feel they have better bacon than bacon. canadian bacon is not even close to regular bacon.
@jimmydean
After trying EBMM and G&L and host of others, I traded for a Sadowsky UV70. Still, even the UV couldn’t get the tone nor the neck and body ergonomics just right to noodge out my now 39 year old Fender Jazz. I had high hopes I might find a non-Fender successor to the old girl. Don’t get me wrong. Fender is not omnipotent. Some Fenders are better than others. For me the ergonomics and neck are paramount. A Fender Jazz just feels the best for me, and the right one.
For me, that is .
Regarding my long gone SVT. Nothing will ever quite compare to its brutal simplicity and volcanic power, but I’ve found a happy medium both tone and backwise with my Mesa Subway amps and my Sans Amp.
@groooooove
Lol! It’s funny my post came right after yours.
After trying EBMM and G&L and host of others, I traded for a Sadowsky UV70. Still, even the UV couldn’t get the tone nor the neck and body ergonomics just right to noodge out my now 39 year old Fender Jazz. I had high hopes I might find a non-Fender successor to the old girl. Don’t get me wrong. Fender is not omnipotent. Some Fenders are better than others. For me the ergonomics and neck are paramount. A Fender Jazz just feels the best for me, and the right one.
For me, that is .
Regarding my long gone SVT. Nothing will ever quite compare to its brutal simplicity and volcanic power, but I’ve found a happy medium both tone and backwise with my Mesa Subway amps and my Sans Amp.
@groooooove
Lol! It’s funny my post came right after yours.
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Yeah. Why do people spend money however they’d like?
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I'm quite happy to be able to choose more flavors than chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry, which was pretty much the deal when I started out. Having said that, I'm reminded of a couple of things - Bobby Vega once said that all his Fender Jazz basses sound different, and many years ago I had the opportunity to ask Rocco Prestia about the black p-bass he played at the show I saw that evening. I asked where the burst p-bass on the "What Is Hip" album was. He said he wanted another p-bass and finally, after years of looking, stores, pawn shops, wherever, he finally found one that sonically matched his burst. This was back in the '70's and I was amazed! I was still very new to bass and had no idea basses that were "the same" could be so different! I soon learned it for myself, courtesy of 2 p-basses (oddly, now that I think of it, a black and a burst). I wish I still had the burst and wish I'd never wasted my money on the black. Now, many boutique builders focus on tonewoods which is cool, but wood is wood, and that makes every one sound different, despite Les Paul's hypothesis that solid bodies and pickups remove construction materials from the equation. And like ice cream, one brand of chocolate will be different from another. Find those flavors you like and enjoy them! I like lots of flavors! - The Bar Band Bassman
Sure I love my Fenders, but by far my biggest concerns are getting freaking old and getting frequently booked. Those are the issues that affect me the most. Play what ever the hell you like.
OP I get what you’re saying and I agree.
I like Fender basses and I don’t appreciate all the imitators.
Ampeg SVT is the best.
I have a good Fender and a good SVT and that is as good as it gets.
To me.
I like Fender basses and I don’t appreciate all the imitators.
Ampeg SVT is the best.
I have a good Fender and a good SVT and that is as good as it gets.
To me.
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I bought a Glarry 5 string jazz bass just to kick around at home and I took to it so well , I decided to go all in and bought a Sadowsky 5 string . I have nothing against Fender , I've bought enough of them . IMOH , the new Squier 40th Anniversary basses are better than anything in Fender line (US,MIM,JP) .
Things have changed. I think the definition of "vintage Jazz bass" has changed, to mean different things to different people. I think Leo Fender's basses were meant to be basses for Everyman, meaning they never had high end construction in mind. Just solid, reliable workmanship and materials that got the job done. Very much like the generation of people who played them. Bringing higher end stuff into the mix changes it. Some people like it, some don't. I'm a don't.
I love the brand Fender and I also acknowledge and accept that manufacturing is imperfect. In fact, all human activities are imperfect.
That said, Leo Fender created the look and sound that defined rock’n’roll (and country and electric jazz and modern swing and punk and metal and whatever else you listen to that evolved in any way after WWII).
If you play an electric bass or guitar by any brand in any shape it has details that came from Leo’s vision and it is evolved as a tribute to one or more of Leo’s instruments. Hard stop.
Every bass is a Jazz Bass copy or Precision Bass copy. The Jazz Bass is a modified Precision Bass.
That said, Leo Fender created the look and sound that defined rock’n’roll (and country and electric jazz and modern swing and punk and metal and whatever else you listen to that evolved in any way after WWII).
If you play an electric bass or guitar by any brand in any shape it has details that came from Leo’s vision and it is evolved as a tribute to one or more of Leo’s instruments. Hard stop.
Every bass is a Jazz Bass copy or Precision Bass copy. The Jazz Bass is a modified Precision Bass.
I'm vegan so I don't care for bacon.
Both my almond and soy milk get equal breakfast time.
Wait...
I totally get what the OP is saying.
Basically, for some people Fender is the McDonald's of bass, and how cool can you be if you support the big, evil, corporate machine?
One of the things you can set your watch to in this world is musician ego.
The hook for quite a few manufacturers is "I can make you a bass that sounds like your Fender, but BETTER!"
If you're a musician with marquee value and a few coins:
"I can make you a bass that sounds like your Fender but BETTER and made to YOUR specifications!"
Musicians react like:
So there are the options:
Fender, but lighter
Fender, but not mass produced
Fender, but made of the wood of a tree that grows in the Andes once every hundred years
Fender, but with your name on the headstock
and so on.
There's the always reliable "I want to be different from everybody else!"
(Your playing does that for you, not your gear)
The OP is asking a logical question:
If the goal is Fender look and sound ultimately, why not buy a Fender?
Musicians run out and buy something that looks and sounds exactly like a Fender but turn their nose up at actual Fenders.
A lot of musicians built their reputation and made their fortune on Fenders, but then all of a sudden, Fender is no longer good enough for them.
It's kind of like divorcing your wife once you made your first million dollars.
Basically, for some people Fender is the McDonald's of bass, and how cool can you be if you support the big, evil, corporate machine?
One of the things you can set your watch to in this world is musician ego.
The hook for quite a few manufacturers is "I can make you a bass that sounds like your Fender, but BETTER!"
If you're a musician with marquee value and a few coins:
"I can make you a bass that sounds like your Fender but BETTER and made to YOUR specifications!"
Musicians react like:
So there are the options:
Fender, but lighter
Fender, but not mass produced
Fender, but made of the wood of a tree that grows in the Andes once every hundred years
Fender, but with your name on the headstock
and so on.
There's the always reliable "I want to be different from everybody else!"
(Your playing does that for you, not your gear)
The OP is asking a logical question:
If the goal is Fender look and sound ultimately, why not buy a Fender?
Musicians run out and buy something that looks and sounds exactly like a Fender but turn their nose up at actual Fenders.
A lot of musicians built their reputation and made their fortune on Fenders, but then all of a sudden, Fender is no longer good enough for them.
It's kind of like divorcing your wife once you made your first million dollars.
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Eight pages in one day, congratulations!
Um, what was the question?
Um, what was the question?
You have pay a cover charge PLUS the cost of dessert??
That's probably why Marcus Miller ended up with Sire.
Because he wanted a wife that could make his first million dollars, while still keeping the other old fashioned one.
Bloody polygamous Marcus !!
Says the good ol' american that lives in St Petersburg, a copy of the original russian St Petersburg by the way hahaha
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