So, you believe in prosecuting some people more harshly for the same crime, based on who the victim is?Incredible.
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I Love Children (platonically)
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What question is he asking? Why should I commend someone for standing up for their decision when I believe their decision sucks and/or is completely irrelevant?
No one except one substitute teacher is standing in the way of this kid not doing what he doesn't want to do. It's not exactly like standing in front of a tank in communist China armed with only a brick, or speaking out publicly against your local military dictator. There will be no life-threatening repercussions because of his valiant stand against American culture or tradition.
Tell me, what is the kid standing for, exactly? I only see that he's standing against the ideals on which our nation was founded.
Happy Thanksgiving, btw! Hope you all have a good one.
Wasn't it obvious?
Kid knows the pledge of allegiance.
Pledge of allegiance mentions equal opportunities for everyone.
Kid sees blatant differences between it and the mentalities around him.
Kid won't agree with what he sees as hypocritical.
I understand that you're referring to their right to civil union. What if I give you stale bread and say that fulfils your right to have food? You have food. Why would you complain?
Kid knows the pledge of allegiance.
Pledge of allegiance mentions equal opportunities for everyone.
Kid sees blatant differences between it and the mentalities around him.
Kid won't agree with what he sees as hypocritical.
I understand that you're referring to their right to civil union. What if I give you stale bread and say that fulfils your right to have food? You have food. Why would you complain?
I am so tired of the PC crap that goes on.
Because a child interpets the meaning of Liberty and Justice to deny certain rights to a specific group of people it become a National News Story.
I don't see where his position holds merit and there is not much in is comments that backs it up. My Gay friends are Happy and Successful and are afforded all the Liberty and Justice everyone else enjoys. If there are restrictions on being officially Married versus having a Civil Union then use the Democratic Process to change it. The fact that it can be changed is affording the Liberty and Justice this kid claims is not present for everyone.
Liberty and Justice and their meaning can be debated endlessly. They do not grant anyone everything they might want with regard to morays and laws in this country. The terms are broader than that and everything has some restriction.
I have Liberty and Justice - but I can't go into my Back yard and start shooting my Guns - even though I have the right to own them and use them. Is my Liberty and Justice denied < this is just an example. Tired of the assault on the traditions of the country from the PoA to the push back against calling Christmas - Christmas and a Christmas Tree a Christmas Tree. The PC Police are claiming to be protecting all interests but they are assaulting others traditions in the process. We need to respect each others beliefs and thank god we live in a country that allows us to have the Freedoms we enjoy and the ability to change things we believe are unjust. I am just so freaking tired of this Crap?
Main Entry: lib·er·ty
Pronunciation: \ˈli-bər-tē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural lib·er·ties
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French liberté, from Latin libertat-, libertas, from liber free — more at liberal
Date: 14th century
1 : the quality or state of being free: a : the power to do as one pleases b : freedom from physical restraint c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic control d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges e : the power of choice
2 a : a right or immunity enjoyed by prescription or by grant : privilege b : permission especially to go freely within specified limits
Main Entry: jus·tice
Pronunciation: \ˈjəs-təs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French justise, from Latin justitia, from justus
Date: 12th century
1 a : the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments b : judge c : the administration of law; especially : the establishment or determination of rights according to the rules of law or equity
2 a : the quality of being just, impartial, or fair b (1) : the principle or ideal of just dealing or right action (2) : conformity to this principle or ideal : righteousness c : the quality of conforming to law
3 : conformity to truth, fact, or reason : correctness
Because a child interpets the meaning of Liberty and Justice to deny certain rights to a specific group of people it become a National News Story.
I don't see where his position holds merit and there is not much in is comments that backs it up. My Gay friends are Happy and Successful and are afforded all the Liberty and Justice everyone else enjoys. If there are restrictions on being officially Married versus having a Civil Union then use the Democratic Process to change it. The fact that it can be changed is affording the Liberty and Justice this kid claims is not present for everyone.
Liberty and Justice and their meaning can be debated endlessly. They do not grant anyone everything they might want with regard to morays and laws in this country. The terms are broader than that and everything has some restriction.
I have Liberty and Justice - but I can't go into my Back yard and start shooting my Guns - even though I have the right to own them and use them. Is my Liberty and Justice denied < this is just an example. Tired of the assault on the traditions of the country from the PoA to the push back against calling Christmas - Christmas and a Christmas Tree a Christmas Tree. The PC Police are claiming to be protecting all interests but they are assaulting others traditions in the process. We need to respect each others beliefs and thank god we live in a country that allows us to have the Freedoms we enjoy and the ability to change things we believe are unjust. I am just so freaking tired of this Crap?
Main Entry: lib·er·ty
Pronunciation: \ˈli-bər-tē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural lib·er·ties
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French liberté, from Latin libertat-, libertas, from liber free — more at liberal
Date: 14th century
1 : the quality or state of being free: a : the power to do as one pleases b : freedom from physical restraint c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic control d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges e : the power of choice
2 a : a right or immunity enjoyed by prescription or by grant : privilege b : permission especially to go freely within specified limits
Main Entry: jus·tice
Pronunciation: \ˈjəs-təs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French justise, from Latin justitia, from justus
Date: 12th century
1 a : the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments b : judge c : the administration of law; especially : the establishment or determination of rights according to the rules of law or equity
2 a : the quality of being just, impartial, or fair b (1) : the principle or ideal of just dealing or right action (2) : conformity to this principle or ideal : righteousness c : the quality of conforming to law
3 : conformity to truth, fact, or reason : correctness
The kid so strongly believes in the concept of "liberty and justice for all" but refuses to pledge to it. What a joke.
That's not what the pledge starts with. He's clearly refusing to associate both parts of it.
The fact that he decides to put his opinion forward, and not recite a 100-old baptist pledge is not an exaggerated claim for his own freedom. The substitute's anger and media reaction are symptoms that some do not believe he has the right to do so.
My idea is not that we should make him a sensation, a hero or whatever. You don't have to agree with someone, but forcing that someone into pledging allegiance would be a very ironic outcome.
just pointing out your failed form of rhetoric.. that's enough to make me happy for the moment.
as well, when it comes to wisdom, you clearly lack in that department. i have always wondered about your hatred for the gay
community - something tells me that maybe in fact you are possibly a closet case.
just pointing out your failed form of rhetoric.. that's enough to make me happy for the moment.
as well, when it comes to wisdom, you clearly lack in that department. i have always wondered about your hatred for the gay
community - something tells me that maybe in fact you are possibly a closet case.
Evidently, you have me confused with someone else. I have never expressed any hatred for gays. I'm a "live and let live" kinda guy. I don't hate anyone, not even you, who has accused me of something that you can't back up.
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