For a moment there I got scared..haha..I know Jaco had some less then stellar nights but.....someone post the real clip so some new kid who just started playing doesn't think.."That's Jaco!"
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I might be kicked off TB for this, but.....
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I have to agree with BHB.
WillnDenver thanks for the sentiment but thats not Jaco at his best (in fact it is from his dark days).
Take a look at this. You can see an innovation of his, using artificial harmonics at the start of the song.
Now hold on there kiddies; I didn't say he invented it. Hell no, Paganini was doing this a hundred years ago. But to dare to try this in popular (well sort of) music on god forgive a BASS...my my.
This is one of my favorites because he looks like he having FUN (no groove at all BTW
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WillnDenver thanks for the sentiment but thats not Jaco at his best (in fact it is from his dark days).
Take a look at this. You can see an innovation of his, using artificial harmonics at the start of the song.
Now hold on there kiddies; I didn't say he invented it. Hell no, Paganini was doing this a hundred years ago. But to dare to try this in popular (well sort of) music on god forgive a BASS...my my.
This is one of my favorites because he looks like he having FUN (no groove at all BTW
).
Ohh sure, there are many others - I didn't want to take up a whole page with my response. I guess you could say that I like just about everything, as long as it's good. : D
You really don't know that's a spoof overdub? That's not him playing. It's a 'Shreds' video. There are many. : D
Heh. I got one. Dark days indeed.
That's a parody, Rob.
Here's the original; it's a wonderful performance:
I have made a few comments on this thread, but until now have held off on my opinion of Jaco. Here are my two cents:
It amuses me when I read or hear the comments of people who first heard Jaco years after he appeared, wondering what the big deal was. It reminds me of people who see old Saturday Night Live shows now and wonder the same thing.
The big deal about Jaco (as it was about SNL in 1975) was the shock of the new. But in 2015, his influence is so pervasive that it may be hard to perceive.
From the perspective of me in 1976, some of what Pastorius was doing was not a mystery. I knew people who played fretless bass years before I heard Jaco. I recognized some of the techniques that he used: false harmonics, extreme right hand positioning, etc. I knew that you got a certain "burpy" sound when you favored the bridge pickup on a Jazz Bass. I had heard double bass players play bebop heads. I listened to facile bass guitarists playing 16th-note funk grooves. I was an avid listener to Stanley Clarke and his intimidating virtuosity. None of those things was new to me. But, Jaco synthesized these elements together with a singular musicality into a style that baffled the majority of listeners, including me. He left us wondering, "Where in the world did that come from???"
To hear Jaco in 1975 or 1976 was to hear a paradigm shift. I can imagine that a saxophonist in 1945 would have felt a similar paradigm shift on hearing Charlie Parker. Unfortunately, like Parker, Jaco's demons eventually got the better of him.
Despite having been blown away by Pastorius, I am not a fan of his complete body of work. I would much rather hear Weather Report with Alfonso Johnson than with Jaco. I like Joni Mitchell's recordings with Max Bennett as much as I like her with Jaco. I love his first solo album, but cannot listen to "Word of Mouth" because I think that he was repeating himself already ("The Birthday Concert" is a different story -- the band caught fire on that one). And when I play fretless, I do not want my tone to sound like his. Still, I treasure the records "Jaco Pasorius," "Bright Size Life," and "Hejira."
It amuses me when I read or hear the comments of people who first heard Jaco years after he appeared, wondering what the big deal was. It reminds me of people who see old Saturday Night Live shows now and wonder the same thing.
The big deal about Jaco (as it was about SNL in 1975) was the shock of the new. But in 2015, his influence is so pervasive that it may be hard to perceive.
From the perspective of me in 1976, some of what Pastorius was doing was not a mystery. I knew people who played fretless bass years before I heard Jaco. I recognized some of the techniques that he used: false harmonics, extreme right hand positioning, etc. I knew that you got a certain "burpy" sound when you favored the bridge pickup on a Jazz Bass. I had heard double bass players play bebop heads. I listened to facile bass guitarists playing 16th-note funk grooves. I was an avid listener to Stanley Clarke and his intimidating virtuosity. None of those things was new to me. But, Jaco synthesized these elements together with a singular musicality into a style that baffled the majority of listeners, including me. He left us wondering, "Where in the world did that come from???"
To hear Jaco in 1975 or 1976 was to hear a paradigm shift. I can imagine that a saxophonist in 1945 would have felt a similar paradigm shift on hearing Charlie Parker. Unfortunately, like Parker, Jaco's demons eventually got the better of him.
Despite having been blown away by Pastorius, I am not a fan of his complete body of work. I would much rather hear Weather Report with Alfonso Johnson than with Jaco. I like Joni Mitchell's recordings with Max Bennett as much as I like her with Jaco. I love his first solo album, but cannot listen to "Word of Mouth" because I think that he was repeating himself already ("The Birthday Concert" is a different story -- the band caught fire on that one). And when I play fretless, I do not want my tone to sound like his. Still, I treasure the records "Jaco Pasorius," "Bright Size Life," and "Hejira."
Well I guess the appropriate expression is OMG, U pulled one over the old fart (me). I suppose if I had listened more than 15 seconds in I would have gotten the "joke". I stand by what I say, that video is from the 82 JazzFest in Montreal (my hometown) and roughly marks the beginning of the end. Its not his best.
I guess you and the internet shredders don't intentionally mean disrespect but I'm not laughing out loud.
I guess you and the internet shredders don't intentionally mean disrespect but I'm not laughing out loud.
I realize this board is full of teenagers, but you and I aren't far apart in age, actually. Didn't mean to offend. I have a twisted respect for the people who do those "shreds" videos - they obviously do it out of love, otherwise why lampoon such an obscure guy as Jaco? Not much audience. Plus, they have to take considerable effort.
Nah, no disrespect. Everybody who's been anybody has gotten the 'Shreds' treatment.
: D
At the risk of taking this thread in a different direction... I'd like to thank those of you that had mentioned Jeff Berlin. I had seen his name many times in my youth but never looked into him until now. Obviously a great player but I'm taken by his personality and thoughts about becoming a better player and music. This has come at a time when I am really looking to make up for lost time and improve my playing a great deal. I really like that guy.
Thanks!
Thanks!
I'm not a Jaco fan really, but I do love his playing on this (apologies if it's already been posted):
He does indeed. I only just begun to look into him but so far I really like him a lot. I can see how some could be rubbed the wrong way though. So to answer your earlier question again "What artists excite you?" Right now I'm pretty excited by Jeff Berlin and inspired in a way that I haven't been in many years.
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I've met Jeff on a number of occasions, he's a great guy who always takes the time to answer questions or help any which way he can. He's a world of knowledge! I'm a Philly guy, so what might be brash to others is passion to me. I always look forward to running into him at NAMM.
I'll look into that. I don't know anything about Steve Baily so I'd certainly be interested in opposing views. Thanks for the tip.
