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I need a new rig - different specs from past posts

#82
Hey Eublet,

Perhaps you meant an extension cab and not a combo in that last post. I see that's a possibility. But really one could use say a Genz Benz NeoX 112 (or another neo 112 or 212, or any other cab that distributes power fairly evenly and has similar tuning), with this combo if they need more SPL and height. Carvin BRX112NEO - Combo 800w Bass Amp:

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#83
The Carvin 212 is interesting. I think after my trials, I need more than one driver. The Carvin does seem to have the features I am looking for, but as I said before, I am leary. Everyone seems to say it's great stuff for the money, solid, etc., but no one seems to own and use it. Reviews are mixed. There is the 14 day trial.
 
#84
OK, so the 212 cab is a little awkward to move, and the head is on the heavy side, but certainly not a 40 pound rack. It sounds good. Am I just nit-picking? Do I just need to grow a pair and commit?
 
#86
Yeah, it sounded good. I think there would be enough volume for any gig. We were outside (it ended up being really nice) and I had the pre at about 10 o'clock and the master at about 10 o'clock. The drummer was playing fairly hard, we had vocals, acoustic guitar and keys in the PA and the balance was good. I think I even felt the concrete vibrate a bit by the cab.

I am trying to convince myself that 400+ watts into a 212 4ohm cab will be enough. I don't want to be under-powered again. It has to be, and anything past that there better be some good PA support, right.
 
#87
Steve, I can't speak for you, but I had to grow a pair after getting used to carrying those little rigs and combos. Again, the small cabs just don't feel the same as the bigger stuff. I'm just glad I don't play drums.

Still, I can't help but emphasize the pleasure I've gotten from having a good, lightweight, collapsible cart. Turns out I didn't need to grow a pair at all now that I have one. But I think I'll leave them right where they are! :D
 
#88
Eublet said:
Steve, I can't speak for you, but I had to grow a pair after getting used to carrying those little rigs and combos. Again, the small cabs just don't feel the same as the bigger stuff. I'm just glad I don't play drums.

Still, I can't help but emphasize the pleasure I've gotten from having a good, lightweight, collapsible cart. Turns out I didn't need to grow a pair at all now that I have one. But I think I'll leave them right where they are! :D
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+1 on the cart!! Great investment for your back and cuts down on trips if you can put the head on top, bungee it all in, and strap the bass on backpack style. Folds up small and takes up less room than a gigbag.
 
#89
I don't know that a cart will help much - the 212 has wheels but I don't know that the head would "ride" on it well tipped back like that. It's a simple 2 trip load in, so no big deal. I just need to get some balls and pull the trigger.

My other option would be a EA iAmp 500 ($500 used) and a pair of _______ 1x12's. I just don't know what to put in the blank. The guy with the iAmp says Aguilar.

I need to decide soon. I can't keep the GB rig forever on "trial" and we have gigs every week.
 
#90
SteveC said:
I don't know that a cart will help much - the 212 has wheels but I don't know that the head would "ride" on it well tipped back like that. It's a simple 2 trip load in, so no big deal. I just need to get some balls and pull the trigger.

My other option would be a EA iAmp 500 ($500 used) and a pair of _______ 1x12's. I just don't know what to put in the blank. The guy with the iAmp says Aguilar.

I need to decide soon. I can't keep the GB rig forever on "trial" and we have gigs every week.
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Steve,

The handle on the cart I have extends well above the cabinet, providing a resting place for the rack case when it's tilted back. It's very sturdy. No worries about the head sliding off at all. A two trip load in isn't all that simple if you have to walk a long way, leaving your car on the side of the road somewhere. This is particularly true for me downtown. With the cart, no problem. I can park half a mile away if I need to. It's that easy to move. It makes that much difference, and I have the 212 and carry a 4 space rack with the GBE 1200 in it. The rack I have, with the 1200 and dbx compressor, weighs around 80 lbs total. No problem with the cart.
 
#91
Another word on the cart.

The first one I had came from Lowe's. It was $40. Very cheap. I had it for about a week. It worked fine, but not good enough. I liked it enough to quickly realize that it was worth having. The handle was retractable, and the wheels and bottom plated folded up and in to make it easy to store. I took it back to Lowe's because I wanted the same design, but in something bigger and more sturdy. So I bought another that has a large bottom plate...15". That sticks out far enough to hold any cab on it very easily. It also has a 275 lb weight limit.

So, if you have a Lowe's in your area, go check out the cart they keep in stock. Then imagine one that's a little taller, a little wider, and with a deeper bottom plate that will carry more weight.

Okay, I'll shutup now about the cart. Maybe... :D
 
#92
Eublet said:
Steve,

The handle on the cart I have extends well above the cabinet, providing a resting place for the rack case when it's tilted back. It's very sturdy. No worries about the head sliding off at all. A two trip load in isn't all that simple if you have to walk a long way, leaving your car on the side of the road somewhere. This is particularly true for me downtown. With the cart, no problem. I can park half a mile away if I need to. It's that easy to move. It makes that much difference, and I have the 212 and carry a 4 space rack with the GBE 1200 in it. The rack I have, with the 1200 and dbx compressor, weighs around 80 lbs total. No problem with the cart.
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I didn't realize you put the cab on the cart as well. I guess just because it has wheels doesn't mean you can't use something else.
 
#93
I would suggewst trying a WTX260. Its very light and if you don't have acme cabs, 2 8 ohm cabs would do great with it. Its not that expensive at $719 new and of course some people have them for sale used... althought I can't think of who taht might be...;)
That should help your cost and allow you to spend some dough on cabs.
From what I understand in the theory of it... if you get cab with a Effeciency rating of 104 and run 150watts through it and a cab with the same speaker area of and effecenc of 98 and run 600 watts through it they should be the same volume. So if you think the cabs you want are effecent, the 260 might hit the spot. The only feedback I have gotten from eden users is that they can't tell the differance between the 260 and the 550 with their back turned.

As far as cabs though, I have only tried Ampeg, Acme, Hartke, Eden, Genz benz, GK, and epifini.

I only see the Acme, Eden, or Epifini's working for you. But with your budget you may have to just sacrafice and get 1 bigger cab and deal with it. A 212 or a 410 but I think getting 2 small cabs will put you way over your budget.

Jonathan

Jonathan
 
#94
SteveC said:
I didn't realize you put the cab on the cart as well. I guess just because it has wheels doesn't mean you can't use something else.
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Oh yeah, sorry. Everything is on the hand truck: Cab, rack case, and Auralex. Two basses are in the double gig bag on my back. Single trip every time (unless I carry the 212 and 112). No problem.
 
#97
Eublet said:
That could be a very good option indeed. But as polarizing as some of the Schroeder stuff is, it would be best if he could hear one first.
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Agreed, but I think it IS THE best standalone 212 cab out there, IMHO, I've tried and heard many and I really like it for it's portability and sound. It is very punchy and loud!!!
There are too many choices out there, Good luck on your quest...:bassist:
 
#98
Eublet said:
Another word on the cart.

The first one I had came from Lowe's. It was $40. Very cheap. I had it for about a week. It worked fine, but not good enough. I liked it enough to quickly realize that it was worth having. The handle was retractable, and the wheels and bottom plated folded up and in to make it easy to store. I took it back to Lowe's because I wanted the same design, but in something bigger and more sturdy. So I bought another that has a large bottom plate...15". That sticks out far enough to hold any cab on it very easily. It also has a 275 lb weight limit.

So, if you have a Lowe's in your area, go check out the cart they keep in stock. Then imagine one that's a little taller, a little wider, and with a deeper bottom plate that will carry more weight.

Okay, I'll shutup now about the cart. Maybe... :D
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The Lowe's cart isn't bad. It's basically the same one for $40 as the beefier version for ~$150. Bottom plate is smaller, but I have no problem using bungees to secure a PS112 cab, my head in bag, and bass stand. It's rated at 125 lbs. Works well for what I'm using if for.
 
#99
jmain said:
The Lowe's cart isn't bad. It's basically the same one for $40 as the beefier version for ~$150. Bottom plate is smaller, but I have no problem using bungees to secure a PS112 cab, my head in bag, and bass stand. It's rated at 125 lbs. Works well for what I'm using if for.
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You're right, it works great. The only issue I had was that the handle wasn't quite tall enough. With my 212 and rack case on it, the case was pinching my hand against the cart's handle. I started looking around online and found the Safco XL, which is just tall enough to extend over both the cab and rack case. The other big plus on the Safco was the huge bottom plate. No need for bungie cords. But if the Lowe's cart is tall enough, it seemed plenty sturdy to do the job. And at $40, you can't beat it.
 
#100
Well, I went ahead and bought the Genz Benz rig. I got the GBE600 head (in a nice little rack, too) with the 2 button channel selecting footswitch and the Neox212 cab.

I had it out on trial this weekend and I was able to dial in a nice sound at 3 different gigs - including an outdoor wedding reception - with no trouble at all. Should be even better after I have some time with it and really work with all the tone shapping options that are available.

I am excited to be off the rig merry-go-round. I know I have said it before, but I think with this rig, I have a really good chance of sticking to it. I have learned to work with one bass, I think I can do the same with the rig. After all, it's not like I'm settling for a piece of junk. It's a GB!

Thanks to everyone for their insight, thoughts, advice and comments.
 

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