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I need to vent. We're about to botch a gig.

There is an element of that. RG is having fun, and having fun playing with others.
doesn't sound to me like this combination of players is meant to be 'forever' = why not do the gig with your friend, try to have some fun with it, and take joe nerve's advice and keep looking for something more substantial...with the guitar player. good luck! :thumbsup:



i've done lots of playdowns in my life where i was the only real musician present (family/friends/friends-of-friends/casuals). they weren't really gigs so much as a way for others to try out their skills, however negligible ( :) ), with a forgiving audience. those events aren't the most musically satisfying, but they can be rewarding in other ways, nonetheless.
 
Well, I am sorry that's such a sucky situation. But it is music, if you botch a tune or two (or twenty) at the gig it might not be fun, it might even be embarrassing, but I am pretty sure no one will die or even be hospitalized.

Well unless they get Covid-19 at the gig, but that is independent of your playing.

Do your best, try to enjoy it, and just let it roll. Lots of folks won't notice, especially if they are having fun. Most of those with the ears/attention to notice will also notice that you and the LG are not the problem, so you can rest easy and just do your best.

(Spell check changes "botch" to "both" - but I am certain "botch" is a real word and that is how it's spelled... smdh)
 
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However, I think I've gotten to the point where I'd rather not play than play in situations like this.
So relatable. I feel like after playing with a really tight band ever in your life, anything less just isn't fun. at all. It is actively frustrating and better to avoid. I'm not referring to random jams. I mean actual projects that intend to gig.
 
It sounds to me like the only diplomatic thing to do in this situation is to fake your death, lay low for a few weeks, and later reintroduce yourself to your loved ones as your long-lost twin who's here to pick up the pieces and offer comfort.

In time, everything will go back to normal, and the only difference will be that you have a new first name + didn't have to play that awful gig.

--^@
 
With some folks I've noticed, "Having time to rehearse & maybe reinvent the wheel" is the kiss of death as all they do is destroy what was a casual, simple but fun project.

Some musical partners only work as the chemistry between 2 or 3 folks just happens to work, change the formula and it quickly goes south.
It's not based on ability or talent per se, You just happen to work well together and the sum is greater than the separate parts.

It's a shame really since the original lineup seemed to work.
 
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I'm frustrated and need to type. Warning: long ramble.
Last year, an old friend who I hadn't seen in years, we'll call him RG, contacts me about a gig he's got. It's covers, and it's him on acoustic, myself, and RG's friend on cajon. Low key, outdoor, and given two rehearsals, went incredibly well. RG had learned some chords wrong, but we fixed them.

Fast forward to this year, and we've got some time to rehearse. He wants a drummer and a lead guitarist too. The lead guitarist was easy: I called up my buddy, we'll call him LG, from my last band. He was in and couldn't wait to jam again. I drum too, so it was a little bit of a choice. Do I learn the drum parts and call up some bass-player friends that could nail the tunes in 5-6 weeks? Do I play bass and hope he can find a drummer? Hmm.

The second option is what happened. He knew a drummer. I was immediately suspect when I'm informed that he doesn't own a kit and would need to borrow one. (Well that's interesting; he doesn't ever play or practice on his own). The next thing I hear is, "Can he borrow yours?" Now, I'm not a snob. However, my cymbals are brand new, and really thin. My kit was bought secondhand last year. I don't know the drummer or how he plays, so no, I'm not too keen on loaning out my stuff to a stranger, and having him store it in his garage for a month.

First rehearsal, he hasn't touched the kit since we got the setlist four weeks ago. He "listened to the songs". He struggles to keep steady time and misses most of the transitions and sections (verse/chorus/hihat/ride/etc). Last rehearsal, he asked me, "Is that a bass?" I remained diplomatic. "Yes, sometimes basses have 5 strings." Whatever, that doesn't really matter.

Meanwhile, RG has unlearned all the correct versions of the songs, and we're rehashing chords with two rehearsals remaining. A few of the songs have changed key mid-rehearsal. Song roadmap is almost completely gone. It's not consistent from one run-through to another. "I'm not getting that chord." "I skip the solo section when I practice." "What are you playing during the solo section ?" "Ab minor? How do I play that?" Bar chords. "I don't know bar chords."

LG and I are having a great time playing with each other again. Past that, it's frustrating to see people using band rehearsal time as personal practice, especially with so little time to rehearse. The drummer has not played on his own time at all. The chords are on the internet. The song has been played and heard for 20-40 years. The crowd knows how it goes. It's frustrating. I can adapt to key changes, not instantly, but it takes a verse or two to "re-hear" it. But the leader and everyone else needs to be prepared. I stopped one song because RG was not even close to singing the correct melody on a well-known song, and the drummer was missing every last hit and detail, just plodding along out of style. And it's not like we're covering Rush.

I foresee a trainwreck, and there's not much I can do about it. I'm really frustrated with the whole situation.
Tell the venue the band has a member who's come down with COVID and needs to bow out. If the music is 40 years old, you'll be playing to an audience that's at risk, so it shouldn't be a huge issue.

Then dissolve the band, and start something new with LG.
 
If I'm in your shoes, I'd collect the drum kit and any other loaned gear and go home. RG and the drummer lack three of the most important elements for band members: 1. Adequate skills; 2. Gear; 3. Work ethic. Project over.

I would ask the lead guitarist, with whom a good vibe was enjoyed, if he would like to continue working together and see if, together, we could bring a couple more quality players in that would compliment what we want to do.

Mentoring is fun, but I wouldn't waste time with this one.

Koog
 
That stinks. But first of all, you shouldn't feel bad about any of this. Getting in this situation, feeling like you're a superior musician, or pulling out of the gig if need be.

It's really easy for us 1) as observers and 2) with the advantage of seeing the whole thing play out, to say "well of course don't play with someone who doesn't have an instrument. I think more often than not, that's a red flag, but I don't think it's as big of a deal with drums as it is with other instruments. That being said, I think it's probably fair to say never again in that regard. You're probably saving more headaches than you are losing out on good opportunities.

I recently put up a post on the local FB musicians page looking for a new group, which was frustrating and terrifying because I had never done that before. At the age of 36, I've always known someone who had a group or wanted the form a group, even if it was just an acquaintance. Trying to figure out the level of musicians you'd be playing with while also conveying your own abilities is tough, especially if you're not good at promoting yourself and don't want to offend. I ended up in one rehearsal that was much worse than your situation, and it was uncomfortable to let them know I wouldn't come back, but they could tell that there was a big difference in abilities so I think it was easier in that regard. Your situation sounds tougher though, because it may not be as obvious to the weaker links that they are in fact weaker links.

So here is my advice, and I understand you may already know what you're doing:
Decide if the gig can still go on and be salvageable, even if it's not to your normal level of polish. If it can, go in smiling, do your best, have fun with it, get through the bumps without getting frustrated, and leave knowing you made the best of a bad situation. Any real musician will probably recognize your ability and appreciate you being able to adapt to a less than perfect musician. I know I wouldn't want to play with someone who makes a face every time I mess up, regardless of their skill level.
If you really think it's going to be so bad that you will regret doing the gig, do as others have said and blame it on the health situation. But just keep in mind that whatever excuse you use, you don't want to be caught telling a lie because that could do more damage.

Good luck!
 
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Maybe ask RG not to play guitar or not on every song especially the ones he is not able to memorize correctly. You have committed to the gig and to play it is the right thing to do.

I had a similar situation years ago. It was a Christmas concert outdoors. Our performance was so bad and it was extremely embarrassing. The only saving grace was a rather wide pole directly in front of me. I never packed up my gear so fast.
 

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