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I Was Pulled Over Tonight

#41
MrLenny1 said:
I get pulled over quite a bit after coming home from gigs.
Usually a tail light out. Keep my hands at 10 and 2 until he sees me.
Got pulled over for passing a trooper on the way to a gig last month.
Don't try doing that. I left my off with a warning.
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Or did you get pulled over for speeding?
I don't think it us unlawfull to pass an officer if you are otherwise abiding by the rules of the road.
 
#43
El Güero said:
During a gas shortage a guitar player pal and I were heading out to the country to plant two or three hundred sprouts (the kind musicians grow). We went to get gas, but it was so crowded the lines extended to include a few cars still on the road. Since we were the new arrivals and last in line, I turned on the emergency blinker to prevent getting rear-ended. In the side view I saw a cop turn his lights on and park behind my pickup truck. He came up to the window and asked why I was parked in the road, and I told him there were so many people waiting to get gas that the line went into the road. He looked around and saw how busy it was. Then he looked in the back of my truck and asked me what all the little plants were. I told him they were sapphire peas and we were going to transplant them in my grandmother's garden after getting gas. He looked like he had never heard of sapphire peas, paused a bit, and left us waiting in the road to get gas. That was close.
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Did you go buy lottery tickets while you were filling up? Or was this shortage like in the 70s before lottery was legal/common? That was extreme luck! You wouldn't be here now that's for sure.

So how did the sapphire pea crop do?
 
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#44
guy n. cognito said:
Windows down
Hands visible
Be courteous
It's not that hard.
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You know it. I got stopped recently for my vehicle fitting the profile of a stolen vehicle. The Deputy approached, courteous, telling me that my tag and personal description didn't fit but he had to check. Gave him my ID, he came back, thanked me, and I thanked him for being out there.
I see these videos of clueless hipsters deliberately provoking officers it makes my blood boil. They have remarkable restraint.
 
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#45
Old Garage-Bander said:
Saying you don't know why you were pulled over is not the same as refusing to answer the question.
Refusing to answer would either include a statement of refusal or just being silent.
The response in my case was a plea of ignorance, so not a refusal to answer the question.

Did you mean to ask if I was implying rather than inferring?
I imply in what I say. You (or the officer) infer from what you heard me say.
To answer the question that I inferred from your question, yes. I did imply that ignorance of how you are driving is a state of unawareness. Regardless of the cause of unawareness, be it alchohol, texting, or just that you drive the same way every day and your mind wanders out of boredom, you are not giving your full attention to your driving, which then may be inferred by others to be reckless. I was not requiring that you agree with me, if you inferred that requirement from something I said, that is beyond my control.
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Wow....

Cops do love a wordsmith.....
 
#46
I've encountered both kinds out here in boonieland.
Disclaimer: one of my sons is a 10 year veteran on a major metro PD, I've heard the crap they put up with. He's used 2 of his nine lives, one when a chased down perp managed to get a gun out and it went "CLICK"....no round chambered and the other when the neighboring county did not follow protocol and hand-off hot pursuit...T-boning his cruiser. I got a call from him at the hospital telling me "Dad, side airbags are amazing devices, one just saved my life".

It seems in Wharton, Texas they have the all blacked-out gangster mobiles and possibly too much coffee or 'roid use. They like to do the "fly up onto your rear bumper at high speed" and then tailgate you at about 3 or 4 feet behind your bumper at 70 mph. I've got a local night duty guy that has done that to me in our one stoplight town. One night I'll have had enough and have the rearcam running a stream to cloud storage....then hit the brakes for the bambi or wild hog or coyote that ran out in front of me. He can explain to his boss why he totaled the front of a cruiser + caused the MVA + injured a 60 year old citizen minding his own business and driving legally(and sober).

The good one but on a fishing expedition. This one was a DPS(state trooper in Texas).
After driving 125 miles from a wedding reception gig, I get pulled over 600 yards from my home for an alleged license plate lamp out(one of the 2 was out, no ticket). I got out of my vehicle in socks(shoes come off for the ride home) with license and insurance docs, set 'em on top of the car, and waited. First question was the weapons one. Said "No, we played in a good area, The Woodlands, tonight".
Officer: Where are you going?
JC: Home, about 600 yards up this road and hang a right.
Officer: OK, have a good night and get that other bulb replaced".
Fishing for drunks.
 
#47
ubernator said:
Did you go buy lottery tickets while you were filling up? Or was this shortage like in the 70s before lottery was legal/common? That was extreme luck! You wouldn't be here now that's for sure.

So how did the sapphire pea crop do?
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It was around 1974, pre-lotto days. Odd numbered license plates could get gas on odd calendar days. The crop was a flop, maybe a handful.
 
#49
Downunderwonder said:
What is the correct / most advantageous civil libertarian answer to ''why do you think I stopped you?''. I suspect they are not the same.

No points for ignoring question and offering to show licence and rego.
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The officer is asking the question because he wants you to say something that might betray wrongdoing or criminality.

He already knows why he pulled you over so this is nothing more than a law enforcement strategy to him.

Suppose I was speeding, doing 60 mph in a 45 mph zone and I get pulled over. When he asks, "Do you know why I pulled you over?", if you respond, "I assume it's because I was speeding" then this doesn't give him any useful information. He's hoping you'll say something like, "Im sorry I didn't see the stop sign. I didn't notice it until after I drove through the intersection".

He will then ask you "what stop sign?" and now it's up to you to explain why you sailed though a stop sign that the officer hadn't noticed you blew off.

So while you're stammering out an explanation, you're getting more and more nervous about the pouch under the seat that has little baggies of meth in it, packaged for individe al sale.

He will ask you why you're so nervous. And the game goes on until he gets you to reveal probable cause to search your vehicle.
 
#50
hbarcat said:
So while you're stammering out an explanation, you're getting more and more nervous about the pouch under the seat that has little baggies of meth in it, packaged for individual sale.
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Good for the cop.
Quite frankly, if someone is in to selling meth, I want them off the streets and not sharing the same roads I drive on. Just sayin.
 
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hbarcat said:
The officer is asking the question because he wants you to say something that might betray wrongdoing or criminality.

He already knows why he pulled you over so this is nothing more than a law enforcement strategy to him.

Suppose I was speeding, doing 60 mph in a 45 mph zone and I get pulled over. When he asks, "Do you know why I pulled you over?", if you respond, "I assume it's because I was speeding" then this doesn't give him any useful information. He's hoping you'll say something like, "Im sorry I didn't see the stop sign. I didn't notice it until after I drove through the intersection".

He will then ask you "what stop sign?" and now it's up to you to explain why you sailed though a stop sign that the officer hadn't noticed you blew off.

So while you're stammering out an explanation, you're getting more and more nervous about the pouch under the seat that has little baggies of meth in it, packaged for individe al sale.

He will ask you why you're so nervous. And the game goes on until he gets you to reveal probable cause to search your vehicle.
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I know what the game is. I asked what you should say to win it, not how many different ways to lose it.
 
#60
Last time I got pulled over, I was driving my boss's Mercedes the long way back to the office and was running about 10 over the speed limit. Reason? Sudden urge to defecate. There were a few parking lots along the route that usually would have outhouses/portapotties (recreational trail parking lots), so I figured at stopping at any one of these spots and do my business. But at this point (early winter), they were all locked up and I was running out of options. Yikes!

So I'm unfortunately taking the long way around, precious seconds roll into tense minutes and I'm driving a little too quickly. One of the Queen's Cowboys (aka RCMP, aka Mounties) on patrol pulls me over. Now I'm getting panicky. Officer walks up, I roll down the window and explain my situation and with no small amount of shame, I say "I'm pretty much ready to $h!t my pants". He thinks for a second and says: "There's a McDonalds at the next intersection - sort yourself out there". And off I went - he didn't even bother running the plates, taking my DL or the registration, just sent me on my way. I don't think he wanted any part in that action on an otherwise uneventful weekday morning!

I'm happy to say that I made to the McD's on time and the crisis was averted.

Disclaimer: I worked for a local PD for about 10 years, half my friends and family are cops, so the intimidation factor was not there!
 
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