I sorta like Adele. My favorite tune of hers is the theme to Skyfall, which I consider the best Bond theme ever. It's not pop BS but is more Broadway.
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I watched the Grammy Awards, and "don't get it".
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Adele is Celine Dion of millennials.
That being say bands like Tycho, Snarky Puppy, Flume etc are hardly pop garbage.
That being say bands like Tycho, Snarky Puppy, Flume etc are hardly pop garbage.
You did what now?
I haven't watched the Grammy since the '80s and even then I found it absurd.
I haven't watched the Grammy since the '80s and even then I found it absurd.
It's a simple generational thing.
Bruno Mars is this generation's Smokey Robinson (or whatever favorite classic soul artist comes to mind).
Adele is their Barbara Streisand.
Beyonce is their Diana Ross.
(You can make better equivalents if you like, but you get the point.)
You don't "get it" because this isn't your generation's music. Heck, my parents didn't "get" Hall and Oats, Michael Jackson, Prince or Whitesnake (and don't even get them started on Run DMC). Guess what. The 80s wasn't their generation. Those acts seem pretty tame by today's standards.
I don't find it offensive that I don't get all of today's music. It would be an oddball 20 year old that would "get" Smoky Robinson or Crosby Stills and Nash. We're all mostly right where we need to be.
All of that being said, Adele, Gaga, Bruno and Beyonce bring a metric ton of talent to the table.....even if I don't "get" every single song they do.
Bruno Mars is this generation's Smokey Robinson (or whatever favorite classic soul artist comes to mind).
Adele is their Barbara Streisand.
Beyonce is their Diana Ross.
(You can make better equivalents if you like, but you get the point.)
You don't "get it" because this isn't your generation's music. Heck, my parents didn't "get" Hall and Oats, Michael Jackson, Prince or Whitesnake (and don't even get them started on Run DMC). Guess what. The 80s wasn't their generation. Those acts seem pretty tame by today's standards.
I don't find it offensive that I don't get all of today's music. It would be an oddball 20 year old that would "get" Smoky Robinson or Crosby Stills and Nash. We're all mostly right where we need to be.
All of that being said, Adele, Gaga, Bruno and Beyonce bring a metric ton of talent to the table.....even if I don't "get" every single song they do.
True. Beyoncé had the better album. Neither were my favorite records of 2016, but Beyoncé should have won.
My computer automatically adds the accent to the name Beyoncé when I type it. Wild.
Was Tycho there? I missed that.
I remember a few years back when Herbie Hancock won Grammy of the Year and afterwards Kanye West said "Who the shag is Herbie Hancock?"
I've never watched the Grammys again.
I've never watched the Grammys again.
there's a whole lot of typing here just to say "Get off my Lawn!!!"
Easy solution. Don't watch them.
If enough people stop watching, it will go away.
I can't even remember the last time I watched ANY awards show.
If enough people stop watching, it will go away.
I can't even remember the last time I watched ANY awards show.
I have to disagree. Céline Dion is a singer but, in my opinion, not much of an artist. She was packaged and groomed from an early age by her agent/father figure/lover whatever. Adele is an artist and singer. She is steeped in R&B and channels her influences with a degree of Integrity and, I suspect, humility. Dion channels what she was trained to channel. Two very different approaches.
Ive never heard her sing. I'll have to listen to some of the above videos.
She's very attractive, always looks happy, and has earned enough money for several lifetimes. She must be doing something right.
I'm 100% agreement with the whole dance sync and pyrotechnic show rot. I want to hear good musicians play good music. Shows are cool and can be impressive, but what I really want is music. Anybody who takes a stand for being real and being themselves is above the norm in my view.
Edit: I did take a listen. She's very unique and powerful. I don't know about all the award business, I don't watch it. She wins on her own merit. Best new (to me ) voice I've heard since Sara Barielles. What's so wrong ?
She's very attractive, always looks happy, and has earned enough money for several lifetimes. She must be doing something right.
I'm 100% agreement with the whole dance sync and pyrotechnic show rot. I want to hear good musicians play good music. Shows are cool and can be impressive, but what I really want is music. Anybody who takes a stand for being real and being themselves is above the norm in my view.
Edit: I did take a listen. She's very unique and powerful. I don't know about all the award business, I don't watch it. She wins on her own merit. Best new (to me ) voice I've heard since Sara Barielles. What's so wrong ?
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This is probably going to come off sounding snobby, but to the OP I would parallel this with questioning the logic behind the Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Award. You have to consider the crowd this award show is intended for and leave it at that. Most pop music fans can't even play an instrument, so we can't expect them to have the same taste as people who study and execute the nuts and bolts of what makes music. I do agree though, a Grammy isn't exactly the be-all, end-all honor of being a musician lol
Remember that time Steely Dan won the Grammy for best album over Beck, Eminem, Paul Simon, and Radiohead...AFTER getting snubbed by the establishment during their heyday?
Pepperidge Farms remembers!
Pepperidge Farms remembers!
I waited until after the show was over, googled to see if Bowie won anything, was pleased to see that he had, closed the tab and went about my business.
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It's simple: the Grammies are not now and never have been about the music per se. They have always been about the music business.
Now do ya get it?
MM
Dead on...what their generation doesn't have though, is a Valerie Simpson
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Yes, I completely get the point. Good evaluation. That said, I still don't prefer the Grammy awards as a showcase for the finest of today's popular music. I am aware of the talent of Gaga and Bruno. All I heard and saw of them last night was mostly overblown bombast. I only watched the awards because my lovely (though mostly non musical) wife tunes into it when ever it's aired. I can't get beyond the uber in-your-face production work which to me is a well thought out alternative to musicality. With honesty in mind, perhaps we should showcase most effective production techniques with the Grammy awards.
