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#241
smcd said:
I'm saying that no sane person has an emotional tie to an individual bass they sold. No way. Sure, mayyyyyyyyybe there's some guy out there in the Pyrenees that works with pixie dust and invisible goblins that has an emotional tie to each individual product he's made.

But I'm telling you guys - many of whom I suspect have never worked on a production environment - that these boutique builders don't have emotional ties to their product.
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I want you to take the time to build one instrument. And make it perfect. With the highest attention to detail. Then give it to someone and have them smash it in front of you.

Apart from the financial loss, tell me how it feels to you. With something you have invested time and hard work to make with your own hands, for it to be smashed, or damaged in an un-repairable way.
 
#242
curbowkid said:
I want you to take the time to build one instrument. And make it perfect. With the highest attention to detail. Then give it to someone and have them smash it in front of you.

Apart from the financial loss, tell me how it feels to you. With something you have invested time and hard work to make with your own hands, for it to be smashed, or damaged in an un-repairable way.
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Thank you.
 
#243
Tieiririyi said:
Some of you just don't get it...

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.
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What else am I going to do during boring technical conference calls.;)

This thread is crazy. If one can't afford a $8500 bass, can't justify the expense but are filthy rich, LOVE their SX or Squier..... excellent.

There is no right answer here.

I was really seriously looking into a Fodera over the last 2 weeks (used) but got cold feet and bought a $3000 bass today (and a $1500 one a couple of weeks ago) and pocketed the difference. $6k+ was just a but pricy for me to justify as I am down from 4 to 2 gigs a month lately. Many will say $3k is completely ******** for a bass also, BTW.:spit::D

If people want to spend $8500 for a bass, $2000 for a bottle of wine (grape juice), $600 for Prada shoes, $2500 for a Canali suit, $250000+ for a Bentley.... who really cares if it isn't your money? WORTH is completely irrelevant..... especially when it comes to consumer goods.
 
#246
curbowkid said:
It really penetrates me in a horizontal manner when someone discounts and puts down the connection of luthier and instrument.
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Not just luthier and instrument. Off topic coming up...

Back in March I was handed a big annual project from my company normally done in Adobe Flash, and asked to do it so that it can be done in HTML (so it can be interacted with on an iPad). The project was a success, and every team that I showed it to was overjoyed with the results.

A few weeks ago, a very lazy and far less than intelligent member of my team decided to update the project twice. He screwed it up both times - the second time was so bad, he actually ruined what was already live on our company's website by deleting a background image which was necessary for the art of the site.

Not only was the team angry that he messed something up that was customer facing, but I was personally upset he actually started ruining my project which I put good time and work into - despite that it was technically no longer my responsibility.

I'm quite sane, too. Well, mostly :D
 
#247
ggvicviper said:
Not just luthier and instrument. Off topic coming up...

Back in March I was handed a big annual project from my company normally done in Adobe Flash, and asked to do it so that it can be done in HTML (so it can be interacted with on an iPad). The project was a success, and every team that I showed it to was overjoyed with the results.

A few weeks ago, a very lazy and far less than intelligent member of my team decided to update the project twice. He screwed it up both times - the second time was so bad, he actually ruined what was already live on our company's website by deleting a background image which was necessary for the art of the site.

Not only was the team angry that he messed something up that was customer facing, but I was personally upset he actually started ruining my project which I put good time and work into - despite that it was technically no longer my responsibility.

I'm quite sane, too. Well, mostly :D
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That sucks man! I'm sorry. I think I'm pretty sane myself, at least that's what the voices tell me :D
 
#249
PotsdamBass8 said:
Have you played a lakland skyline before? I wouldn't compare them to a squier or any other of the basses mentioned. I think if you played one you'd see their value.
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+1 to this. My Skyline 44-02 is pretty awesome and a steal for what you get. I'm happy that I bought one with the Barts in it, I tried one with the Lakland electronics and it didn't have the same voice to it.
 
#250
My $.02: I wouldn't even know how Fodera was if Wooten didn't play them. I would totally drop the $3k for a Ying-Yang bass because I love the design. If I see something with a tricked out design like that, I could see why is costs that much, the particular model in the OP seems kind of boring, so I would have trouble dumping that kind of cash on it.
Personally it would be hard to ever spend that kind of dough on a bass just because I'm just not a good enough player to do it justice or validate the purchase. $2k, sure; $3k, if I win the lottery or something.
 
#251
socialleper said:
My $.02: I wouldn't even know how Fodera was if Wooten didn't play them. I would totally drop the $3k for a Ying-Yang bass because I love the design. If I see something with a tricked out design like that, I could see why is costs that much, the particular model in the OP seems kind of boring, so I would have trouble dumping that kind of cash on it.
Personally it would be hard to ever spend that kind of dough on a bass just because I'm just not a good enough player to do it justice or validate the purchase. $2k, sure; $3k, if I win the lottery or something.
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FWIW a full blown ying yang is $12,000 and a standard (ie painted black part) is $4,750. $3k wouldn't get you a used standard!
 
#252
ggvicviper said:
Not just luthier and instrument. Off topic coming up...

Back in March I was handed a big annual project from my company normally done in Adobe Flash, and asked to do it so that it can be done in HTML (so it can be interacted with on an iPad). The project was a success, and every team that I showed it to was overjoyed with the results.

A few weeks ago, a very lazy and far less than intelligent member of my team decided to update the project twice. He screwed it up both times - the second time was so bad, he actually ruined what was already live on our company's website by deleting a background image which was necessary for the art of the site.

Not only was the team angry that he messed something up that was customer facing, but I was personally upset he actually started ruining my project which I put good time and work into - despite that it was technically no longer my responsibility.

I'm quite sane, too. Well, mostly :D
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Hmmmm.... What's that thing called....oh yeah, Change Control. That's it. One of those silly ITIL thingamajigs....
 
#253
socialleper said:
+1 to this. My Skyline 44-02 is pretty awesome and a steal for what you get. I'm happy that I bought one with the Barts in it, I tried one with the Lakland electronics and it didn't have the same voice to it.
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+1. I can fill most any gig with my 55-02 with Bart's. Best working bass purchase I have ever made.
 
#256
oniman7 said:
And if someday, I enjoy a lot of disposable income and can save up for a Fodera, I will probably go to the Factory and tour it. It will either be my thing or it won't. I have no doubt that Fodera produces a quality product. In the end, given the money, I may choose to buy one, to buy a decent $1,000 Warwick/EBMM and use the rest on a home theater, have a custom one built with the same money... who knows? But it's my prerogative in a free market.
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And that is the crux of the entire issue - disposable income. If you have to give up essentials to buy something, then you shouldn't be buying it. If you've got more money than Gates, then you can buy whatever you like, but it still might not be a Fodera. Basses come in many different flavors, and Fodera may not taste good to your ears, money or not.

I can't understand why people get their panties in a wad over this. If you don't want to spend $8,499, then don't.
 
#257
Munjibunga said:
And that is the crux of the entire issue - disposable income. If you have to give up essentials to buy something, then you shouldn't be buying it. If you've got more money than Gates, then you can buy whatever you like, but it still might not be a Fodera. Basses come in many different flavors, and Fodera may not taste good to your ears, money or not.

I can't understand why people get their panties in a wad over this. If you don't want to spend $8,499, then don't.
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This^^^^

Mungi, ever think about running for office?
 
#260
smcd said:
I'm saying that no sane person has an emotional tie to an individual bass they sold. No way. Sure, mayyyyyyyyybe there's some guy out there in the Pyrenees that works with pixie dust and invisible goblins that has an emotional tie to each individual product he's made.

But I'm telling you guys - many of whom I suspect have never worked on a production environment - that these boutique builders don't have emotional ties to their product.
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This is getting interesting. Each one of your posts opens another small window into your psyche.

In another life, I did printed circuit board layouts using tape on mylar - this was long before computer design. While almost no one would ever see that circuit board, I worked hard to make all those little clads line up in an aesthetically-pleasing pattern while using elegant techniques to keep the clads as short as possible. When the finished board came back from etching, I took pride in my work and, while I never followed up with any of the end users, I did care what the circuit design engineers (my client) thought. So yes, I had emotional ties to my circuit boards.

Are you a craftsman?
 

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