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I'm going mad (Guitarist is 'hearing' something)

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by iceshaft07, Feb 29, 2008.


  1. iceshaft07

    iceshaft07

    Mar 4, 2007
    Hey everyone. My guitarist and I play a bunch of songs. For a while, this happened with just one song, but we wrote a new one last night, and it happens with that one.

    He insists that he is hearing something. Me being a computer repair person (not quite a technitian yet), I have been trying diagnose what he is describing.

    He can't describe it anymore than it sounds different. He also says that it is always with the E, F, and F# on the D string (frets 2, 3, 4).

    With both songs, the notes I play are whole notes.

    It is not note bending, I hooked it up to my tuner. I would really have to try to bend the note for him to notice it.

    It is not fret buzz. (I purposly played causing fret buzz).

    The intonation appears to be within reason.

    I thought I might be plucking the note before I actually fret it, but that would not make sense because there are other long notes in the song. This happens when I switch from A on the A string (fret 0) to E, and when I switch from E to F# on the D string.

    He says he hears it with my finger picking, but not plucking with a pick.

    This one is really interesting. If I play D on the A string (5th fret) then E on the D string (2nd Fret) then F# on the D string (4th fret); he hears it on F#. On the other song, I play C on the A string (3rd fret), A on the A string (fret 0), and then E on the D string (2nd fret). This tells me I am not having problems switching between strings.

    song 1
    |--------
    |---2~4~
    |5~------
    |---------
    Hears it on F#

    song 2
    |-------
    |-----2~
    |3~0~--
    |--------
    Hears it on E

    Could someone please recommend something? This is driving me crazy!
     
  2. chroma601

    chroma601

    Feb 16, 2007
    Sylva, NC
    Your guitarist needs to be more specific on just what it is that he is hearing!
     
  3. Deacon_Blues

    Deacon_Blues

    Feb 11, 2007
    Finland
    A weak guess, but could it be you have a dead spot on your bass on the 2-4 fret on the D string?

    Perhaps the eq and bass amp / cabinet / room size have something to do with it?


    +1 to chroma's comment.
     
  4. What is he hearing?

    Angelic voices? Demonic voices? a slight beeping noise? A bird chirping? A howling wolf? A mexican mariachi band?
     
  5. hunta

    hunta

    Dec 2, 2004
    Washington, DC
    OMG, if that's an option for "voices in your head" I want it.
     
  6. O_O +1
     
  7. svtb15

    svtb15 Banned

    Mar 22, 2004
    Austin,TX - McKinney,TX - NY,NY, - Nashville,TN
    I play it all. Whatever works for the gig. Q+
    Does anyone really care what a guitarist thinks he hears.? Can they actually hear at all?;););):bassist:
     
  8. MooseLumps

    MooseLumps Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2007
    Portland
    Sounds like a dead spot to me. Fat Finger, anyone?
     
  9. RONQUITO

    RONQUITO

    Dec 27, 2007
    Guitarist????

    You must have meant to say gui****
     
  10. Lalabadie

    Lalabadie Guest

    Jan 11, 2007
    Howling wolf. He's accidentally playing Sonata Arctica outros.
     
  11. look man, I say if its not interfering with the mix, tell your gui**** to shut his face hole :)

    try using another bass tho, it will probably go away
     
  12. jschwalls

    jschwalls

    Sep 4, 2007
    Savannah GA
    sounds like he is hearing "IT" on the last note... are you sure you are muting the prior note... it could be causing some issues.... if you are muting correctly then i diagnose the problem as "guitaritus".. I have dealt with 100's of arrogant guitarist and they all seem to have issues.
    Screw 'em.
     
  13. What kind of bass do you have? If it's a common looking one, try borrowing a similar looking copy and a three foot long lead pipe. Play the axe it in front of the gui****. If he still hears something, whack the lead pipe on his noggin.
     
  14. Beta

    Beta

    May 9, 2007
    I don't see how muting the prior note is the problem in the first example. One note is on the second fret, the next is on the fourth fret of the same string. It's impossible for it to continue to sound.
     
  15. Gubna

    Gubna

    Oct 21, 2006
    San Francisco
    I vote you add a poll!
     
  16. RiddimKing

    RiddimKing

    Dec 29, 2004
    He's hearing his cellphone through his amp head...
     
  17. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead

    Dec 28, 2006
    Very interesting.

    I'd say try different basses and different amps out just to see if its really your bass.

    The one thing that comes to mind is that certain bass frequencies cause other objects in the room to vibrate. For example snare drums are prone to rattle if you hit the right note (this depends, of course, on a whole list of variables).

    Might try recording it so we can listen?
     
  18. Lon86

    Lon86

    Jan 21, 2008
    Venice, CA
    Tell him its his guitar...

    And ask him if he can still hear it in the mix.
     
  19. dirtgroove

    dirtgroove

    Jan 10, 2003
    Taipei, Taiwan
    More info??? any descriptions for what he's hearing?
     
  20. FireArm

    FireArm

    May 17, 2007
    Maybe a deadspot? although hitting it with a pick and fingers i dont think would make much difference to the dead spot it would sound dead and rattly whatever you hit it with it... He could just be dropping hints that he wants you to always use a pick though.. :confused: why i have no idea..
     

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