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In Defense Of Kill Switches

The first bass I bought, a Hagstrom HII back in the 60's, comes with a Muteswitch on the top of the pick guard. I found it SO valuable, I put them in EVERY bass i bought since then. You can set it down without feedback or noise or mute it during rehearsals so you don't make noise while talking or whatever, and you don't lose your settings!

If it is a really nice bass I don't drill a hole. For my Lakland, I put in a volume pot with push-pull switch. for my Hofner, I changed the useless solo switch to Mute (1 jumper) and for my 5-string P, I added a mercury switch across the output jack that mutes the bass when it it turned vertical. Works GREAT and I don't even have the think about it. Put it on the stand - its OFF.

ALL basses should have Mute switches. Period.
Ok a mercury switch is freaking amazing!
If you shook it would it stutter? Cause that's right where my brain went.
Also I like to throw around my basses on stage so maybe encapsulate it in foam, Hmmm....
Can you still buy a mercury switch?
 
I have a Carl Thompson obsession and really do believe that everything on a Carl Thompson instrument was thought about, experimented with and considered. Every Carl Thompson I have ever owned has had a kill switch. I use it constantly and "turn off" / "turn on" my bass when getting things going. Leaving a rig on and just flipping your kill switch when you need to put your instrument down is something I've grown so used to that I don't think I could ever live without it. It really is a wonderful feature.
This was the point of my post. I did enjoy the laughs though, but a mute toggle is oddly useful.
 
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The first bass I bought, a Hagstrom HII back in the 60's, comes with a Muteswitch on the top of the pick guard. I found it SO valuable, I put them in EVERY bass i bought since then. You can set it down without feedback or noise or mute it during rehearsals so you don't make noise while talking or whatever, and you don't lose your settings!

If it is a really nice bass I don't drill a hole. For my Lakland, I put in a volume pot with push-pull switch. for my Hofner, I changed the useless solo switch to Mute (1 jumper) and for my 5-string P, I added a mercury switch across the output jack that mutes the bass when it it turned vertical. Works GREAT and I don't even have the think about it. Put it on the stand - its OFF.

ALL basses should have Mute switches. Period.
Exactly what I've been doing, push/pull on the nicer basses, switch on pickguards or control plate I don't mind drilling.
 
I guess so! My dimension is more 'keep the strings quiet while not in use without losing my volume settings'. Also, less noodling during soundcheck and during band practices

On a Jazz, or any VVT type of bass, yes please!
It's easy to roll off both volumes in one go just by sliding your hand. That's what I do. However, unless you have the volumes at max, it becomes a bit tedious to go back to the original settings. A "shut up" switch should be stock on these basses.
 
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I think that's a very good use of the extra hole! I use my tuner for muting and wouldn't install a kill switch just to install one (less is more for me) but if I had an extra hole that's what I'd do. A momentary kill switch is a good idea as well.
 
I recently put a Noll active preamp in my Lakland Hollowbody 34, I took out the 3-way switch and used the hole to install an active-passive switch.
This left me with a blank push/pull toggle. I thought, hm...maybe a mute switch could be cool, because, why not?

I have now installed a push/pull kill switch, or dpdt switch in my USA Precision, Aria Precision, Lakland 55-AJ and Lakland DJ4.

Pictured here, alongside the nifty series/parallel switch on a fretless 62RI Jazz
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I never knew how great it is to simply kill the bass sound with one flick of the finger.
Intuition, and non-lazy thinking, would say that turning down the volume achieves the same result. Intuition would be wrong.
I can't really describe why it is an upgrade, but having the switch makes it easy to carry out a variety of mundane tasks that would previously have required a left-hand muting or laborious turning of the volume knob.

In retrospect, this is a pretty weak defense, but if you have a push pull knob with no purpose or a DPDT switch hole that you're about to plug, give this simple mod a try, and enjoy the strange bliss of having a kill switch.

I used this diagram with great success:
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My Alembic Series bass has a standby position on the pickup selector. Standby, Bridge PU, Both PU, Neck PU. I use it.

John
 
I really like the effect as a rhythmic element in some great guitar parts. Usually with some saturation for sustain, maybe even some growing feedback, click the sound off and on rhythmically, totally awesome.

So if I had one on a bass I would use it with distortion/fuzz and possibly other stacked effects to get that rhythmic stutter chop going. Like I use my tremolo pedal now, but with control over the timing. It won't replace the tremolo either b/c the pedal can stutter a lot faster than I can with my fingers on the switch.
 
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My bass has an arcade-style killswitch button on the front, which is pretty good fun especially with a massive square-wave fuzz.

Doesn't get as much use as it really deserves, but reading over this thread has encouraged me to give it more effort and see what I can pull off.

The idea of a toggle switch is actually quite a good one too, especially to cut down on handling noise - might look into that.
 
I recently put a Noll active preamp in my Lakland Hollowbody 34, I took out the 3-way switch and used the hole to install an active-passive switch.
This left me with a blank push/pull toggle. I thought, hm...maybe a mute switch could be cool, because, why not?

I have now installed a push/pull kill switch, or dpdt switch in my USA Precision, Aria Precision, Lakland 55-AJ and Lakland DJ4.

Pictured here, alongside the nifty series/parallel switch on a fretless 62RI Jazz
View attachment 3895215

I never knew how great it is to simply kill the bass sound with one flick of the finger.
Intuition, and non-lazy thinking, would say that turning down the volume achieves the same result. Intuition would be wrong.
I can't really describe why it is an upgrade, but having the switch makes it easy to carry out a variety of mundane tasks that would previously have required a left-hand muting or laborious turning of the volume knob.

In retrospect, this is a pretty weak defense, but if you have a push pull knob with no purpose or a DPDT switch hole that you're about to plug, give this simple mod a try, and enjoy the strange bliss of having a kill switch.

I used this diagram with great success:
View attachment 3895212

It would've been more interesting if you said it adds something of a crispness or "je'ne' sai quoi?" to your tone(a Producer switch) I'll quote an old friend who loved to call out any corner cutting with "thats just being LAZY!" Like almost all switches, that barely do what you think they'll do or have you have to have the ears of a german shepherdto tell the difference! and yes it matters that its a 500K audio taper switch! Great if you have an empty hole in your bass! I'mgonna add a push pull pot to see if anyone else hears something special! made by Placebo™
 
This is especially the case on jazz basses wired vol/vol, of which I own two.
But also useful on single coil basses with a blend, where a hum or any kind of signal is unwanted in a quiet moment.

Yep. Any bass with dual volumes actually has a usability benefit from having a kill switch. A REAL usability benefit.

Now if it's active, you should probably have an off/on/off setting.... off up is kill sound but leave power on, middle is on, down is kill sound and kill power too. Or something like that. So you can leave your active bass plugged in. Might get confusing though.... Unless the kill switch always killed power too, but there might be a startup lag in the tone.

Hmm... now you'd all got me thinking... my Grind 6 has (count 'em!) 2 preamp circuits in it, and a passive mode, and still has the dual volumes (simply because I didn't have a useful pickup pan pot lying around). I do have a switch though... and that would be a truly useful option to add.

Just have to think about the active/passive mode thing now.... another option could be off (kill) which also kills active power (up), on (but still no active power, so only passive mode switch would work (which is a push/pull on a volume pot)... which saves battery and lets me leave it plugged in (this would be middle position), and down would be on WITH active powered up, so I could push in my volume control switch and run in active mode or passive mode.

I think that is my best option.

FUN PROJECT IDEA!