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I had no idea what you meant, so I looked on YouTube.

I won't link it, but for those interested, search "Murderface solo (extended)" on YouTube. It's not for all tastes, I'd say. Marginally safe for work.
I thought he would be kind of well known as a fictional bass player here on this forum but it could be just me, I find the show Metalocalypse to be hysterically funny.

One of the gags in the show is the band leader turning 'Murderface's' bass down in the mix to the point that he is no longer in the recording.

Sent a query to the first editor of Bass Player, a visionary man named Jim Roberts. I told him I was a budding writer, and I had an idea, and he said go ahead and do it, and tell them you're writing for us.

He took a chance because he was brave and could see the big picture.
I kind of did the same thing a few months back and found myself suddenly doing internet PR work for a few well known athletes, it is amazing what you can sometimes accomplish by simply knowing what you want and asking for it. I hope my journey turns out to be as interesting as yours has been.
 
Although Bass Player killed 10 of my articles, they rejected only one. There's a difference. Rejections are easier to take than killings. This one was rejected because they felt that the readers would learn nothing useful from it. I think they also thought it was mighty presumptuous of me to submit it. Since the story wasn't about me, I disagree. Anyway, here it is, my only outright rejection from Bass Player, written in 1996:

The Tokyo Years

Recently I came across a dusty box of cassette tapes I'd forgotten I still had. These two dozen Maxells represent a four-year struggle to make it as a pop band in Tokyo. They contain every live performance we did. Almost every live performance. Listening to these tapes for the first time in six years, as a 34-year old bassist who's put away youthful dreams, all I can say is, my God we were awful.

I'd gone to Tokyo at 22 to study business, so naturally I ended up teaching English and playing in bar bands. It was 1985, the peak of Japanese economic strength. At one of the schools where I taught, a colleague--a Canadian named Steiv--found out I played bass. He suggested we start a band to play in the hundreds of live-music clubs that formed the nucleus of the orgiastic Tokyo nightlife. By agreeing, I took the first step of an amazing, painful odyssey that kept me in Japan years longer than I’d intended.

Steiv played guitar and sang. His demo sounded like faster, bouncier Roxy Music. From the other teachers we rounded up a lead guitarist, a keyboard player, and a drummer, all Americans who'd lived in Japan for years. We rented out a practice studio--which like the live-music clubs are found on every street corner--and tried a jam session. It seemed to work.

We cobbled together about thirty original tunes and started getting gigs, but we didn’t play three shows with the same band members. The original keyboardist and lead guitarist left immediately, replaced by Kazuo and Miki, the two who stayed with us the longest. Though Kazuo was a great guitarist, he was so paralyzed by stage fright that he’d stand in exactly the same spot the entire night, staring at his feet. Often he missed his solos because he was frozen in terror. In photos taken of us, he looks like a cardboard cutout, a band prop. Miki was a fair keyboard player, but she always turned her volume down after the sound check, rendering her inaudible during the concert. Extremely nice people who made me want to wring their necks.

Tom, our original drummer, had no sense of rhythm whatsoever. While he was with us, the rehearsal tapes always sounded as though the batteries in the recorder were dying. Up-tempo songs became ballads and vice versa, depending on the day we practiced. No two versions of the same song were alike. After months of pleading, we once got him to wear an electronic metronome, and the rehearsal went wonderfully. When it was over, he asked, "Did you see an improvement?" We told him he was much better. "Well, guess what," he crowed, "I didn't have it turned on!"

After Tom, we played with drummers from almost every nation on earth, most lasting no more than two engagements. One of them, a Senegalese, never showed up one night, forcing us to perform an unscheduled acoustic gig in a dance club. While we took our intermission, I was at the bar ordering a triple scotch when I heard someone behind me ask, "How's the band?" His friend blew a huge raspberry that went on and on, echoing in my head for weeks.

We finally recruited our best drummer, a Dutchman named Rene. Though he taught me how to slap my bass like Louis Johnson, he was dangerously unstable and had the strength of ten longshoremen. The walls of his apartment were riddled with fist holes, evidence of the violent scuffles he had with himself. If a wolf or bear could speak English, it would sound like Rene. "You're so bad," he’d snap. "Why are your lines so boring? I'll show you something better!" And with that he’d tear my bass right off my body, knocking my arms into my face and sending my glasses flying across the room. Once I stupidly resisted his lesson. Our tiny keyboardist intervened before Rene compressed me like an accordion.

The most infuriating aspect of our band was that Steiv, the front man, refused to learn the formats of his own songs. Every performance included a moment where he’d launch into a chorus while the rest of us played a verse or a bridge. After the twentieth such fiasco, he told us, "You gotta back me up out there! If I mess up, follow me!" So, the next time it happened, we switched over to the chorus, just in time for him to go back to the verse. After the show, he said, "What the hell's wrong with you guys, anyway? Don't follow me if I mess up. Play what you're supposed to!”

In those four years, we shed personnel like autumn leaves. Among the sixteen or so musicians who graced our stage was a great guitarist from New Zealand. His spectacular looks drew the massive college-age female audience, and he owned forged press passes that allowed us backstage for every major act that toured Japan. We hated to lose him. We also hired Steve, a British sax player who'd melt quietly into the background when the rest of us fought, something we did on a daily basis. For our final few performances we took on a Chinese-American percussionist-keyboardist. Sticks flying, she danced and strutted, whipping her hair. Drunken Australians gathered next to the stage and bayed at her like basset hounds.

Eventually it was clear that we all hated the sight of each other and were going nowhere, so the band fell apart. A few months after the formal break-up, and a couple of weeks before I escaped Japan, we attended a Battle of the Bands that included several local groups. Near the end of the three-hour thrash fest, the emcee asked us to do a number. Overcome with beer and nostalgia, we stumbled onstage and did "The Dinosaur Song," a silly, two-chord slapping riff I wrote about an ex-girlfriend making me feel like a dinosaur: "Great big body and a real small brain..."

Like former lovers having a unexpected fling, we connected like never before, all our fears, hopes, and inhibitions gone. We blew the roof off. Steiv was in perfect pitch, and we followed his every improvisation without hesitation. Kazuo gyrated across the stage like a madman as his howling solo put Adrian Belew to shame. Rene was sublime, trading off with our slinky percussionist in a frenetic question-response that left them both panting. Miki deafened us with a rousing honky-tonk piano, and gentlemanly Steve blasted out the raunchiest, filthiest saxophone break ever. For my part, I slapped my Sting Ray to pieces, doing the only bass solo of my career. We stretched a three-minute pop ditty into fifteen minutes of crowd pleasing, totally self-indulgent exhibitionism, and when we were done, the audience literally screamed for more.

That was our only live performance we didn't get on tape.
 
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It is amazing what you can sometimes accomplish by simply knowing what you want and asking for it.
Ding-ding-ding-ding! EXACTLY! Always go for it. Never say never.

I need to give credit to the brilliant man who changed my writing style forever. His name is Jason Sitzes:

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He edited a novel I wrote several years ago. It was bloody expensive, but it was the best outlay of my entire life. By editing, I mean he not only helped me change plot elements, but he did a line-by-line examination of my prose and taught me several rules of writing that I use to this day.

Everything I've written in this thread can be traced back to Jason Sitzes. That one editing job he did for me taught me more than I'd learned in all the courses I took in college and writing seminars I attended afterward. I've used his methods in both fiction and nonfiction. They're infallible.

For budding writers with the conviction to make a large investment, this is the man who will fix you forever. Be warned: He will tell you exactly what your problems are, and he only takes on people he thinks have potential. He's one of the Big Dogs in the writing industry. Having your work dissected by a consummate professional is grueling. You must never take any criticism personally, and you MUST heed their suggestions. Otherwise the whole exercise is a farce.

I won't tell you the title of my novel, but I'm going to pitch it as a "black comedy about love and suicide in wartime America."

Everything you're reading here I owe to Jason Sitzes.

Jason, if you ever read this, thanks again. You're another of my Immortals.
 
Ding-ding-ding-ding! EXACTLY! Always go for it. Never say never.

I need to give credit to the brilliant man who changed my writing style forever. His name is Jason Sitzes:

Link Removed

He edited a novel I wrote several years ago. It was bloody expensive, but it was the best outlay of my entire life. By editing, I mean he not only helped me change plot elements, but he did a line-by-line examination of my prose and taught me several rules of writing that I use to this day.

Everything I've written in this thread can be traced back to Jason Sitzes. That one editing job he did for me taught me more than I'd learned in all the courses I took in college and writing seminars I attended afterward. I've used his methods in both fiction and nonfiction. They're infallible.

For budding writers with the conviction to make a large investment, this is the man who will fix you forever. Be warned: He will tell you exactly what your problems are, and he only takes on people he thinks have potential. He's one of the Big Dogs in the writing industry. Having your work dissected by a consummate professional is grueling. You must never take any criticism personally, and you MUST heed their suggestions. Otherwise the whole exercise is a farce.

I won't tell you the title of my novel, but I'm going to pitch it as a "black comedy about love and suicide in wartime America."

Everything you're reading here I owe to Jason Sitzes.

Jason, if you ever read this, thanks again. You're another one of my Immortals.
I've met a few people like this in my life, they just seem to transcend. I misused that word intentionally. They have a kind of understanding that just seems to rub off on anyone lucky enough to be around them. With a few words that aren't carefully chosen at all and seemingly always with a distant smile, they can give you insights that can cut through years of learning, literally. Pun sort of intended.

Lucky is the person who meets one who knows a subject you are already passionate about.
 
Lucky is the person who meets one who knows a subject you are already passionate about.
For you, an L.A. story:

I was invited to a show by a bassist who wanted me to interview him. This was in the days when the second visionary editor at Bass Player let me interview bassists who hadn't signed deals with the majors.

I arrived at the club early and saw the bassist and his guitarist writing out the guest list for the doorman. I joined the conversation in progress.

As I sat down, the guitarist said to the bassist, "I had a friend who smoked a frog. Really. He got sent to Southwest Africa by Details magazine, I think. He had his picture taken smoking this frog. He showed me the picture. They'd dried the frog and ground it into powder and then he smoked it in a pipe just like weed."

The bassist said, "I've heard of people licking frogs, but never smoking them."

"Well, he smoked it, all right."

"Did he get high?"

"Oh yeah. He had wicked hallucinations for about twelve hours."

"Wow. Was he okay after he smoked it?"

"Nah. It f*cked him up."

"Really? What, for good?"


"For good. Yup. Permanently. The right side of his face was paralyzed when I saw him, and he couldn't really talk all that well. And he used to be really smart before, but he couldn't really keep track of his thoughts any more. He couldn't write the article he been assigned about smoking frogs, and he didn't know what he was going to do. Yeah, it really f*cked him up, but good."

I told them about a guy I met in college, who had two criteria for everything he came across. One, did it burn; and two, could you get high on it. He smoked plastic, cotton, and horsehair. He'd once tried to smoke the British yeast extract Marmite. He was nineteen and looked to be about forty-five, with a deeply wrinkled face and a croaking, phlegmy voice.

The guitarist and bassist looked at me as though I were completely insane and didn't respond. I killed the conversation.
 
The Murderface angle ties in nicely with some of Tom's previous posts, as Murderface is played in the real-life Dethklok by none other than Bryan Beller.
By the way, I bought your book, Tom (the interview one, I'm not sure I'm ready to digest flamethrowers just yet).
 
Ok. I've been reading this on and off for the last two days and I love it. I picked up a copy of the Zappa record (one I didn't have previously,) and got a digital copy of Tom's book. I bought a copy years ago and would make my students read it if they thought they were serious about playing bass, particularly the Thunes part. I never got it back from the last student I loaned it to.

When I first read the article, Tom (and Scott), I was emboldened to make choices in my life that led me to start believing in myself. At 18 I was pressured to pursue things that had nothing to do with what I loved. In fact, I was discouraged to do what I loved, aggressively and abusively. I'm a fairly "fun" guy and people (including my family) often use(d) me as a way to justify their own negative behavior.

That article (and then the book) showed me two men of integrity; Scott, who would not allow himself to be deluded and distracted by frivolity, and Tom, the writer who had to fight to illustrate that integrity (which, might have had a bigger impact on me.)

Thanks Tom, for these great stories, and thank you for being a part of my growth as a person and a musician.
 
The Murderface angle ties in nicely with some of Tom's previous posts, as Murderface is played in the real-life Dethklok by none other than Bryan Beller.
By the way, I bought your book, Tom (the interview one, I'm not sure I'm ready to digest flamethrowers just yet).
I would not recommend trying digest a flamethrower. The German ones were two-man devices with 70lb steel oil tanks, 5-foot-long rubber hoses, and 3-foot-long brass lances. Plus the oil was made of coal-tar residue and carbon disulphide. If you give it a try, please make a video and post it here.

Thanks for buying my book. I appreciate it.

Bryan Beller is an amazing bassist and a very considerate man. I had no idea he was involved in Dethklok, since I didn't know what Dethklok was until today. I haven't watched TV since about 2004. After the way Bryan has persevered in the music industry, he deserves to have bushels of cash raining down onto his head. I hope he's wealthy enough to fill his swimming pool with Dom Perignon.

I have no stories whatsoever to tell about Bryan Beller, even though I interviewed him multiple times. He was always 100 percent in control of what he said and did. He never starting yammering away about smoking frogs, for example.

Here's Bryan being co-interviewed about Dethklok at NAMM 2011:

Dethklok Interview NAMM 2011 pt.1 - YouTube

Bryan signed a copy of the first interview I did with him. I don't think he'll mind me posting it. And if anyone else complains, fair use, baby.
 

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Ok. I've been reading this on and off for the last two days and I love it. I picked up a copy of the Zappa record (one I didn't have previously,) and got a digital copy of Tom's book. I bought a copy years ago and would make my students read it if they thought they were serious about playing bass, particularly the Thunes part. I never got it back from the last student I loaned it to.

When I first read the article, Tom (and Scott), I was emboldened to make choices in my life that led me to start believing in myself. At 18 I was pressured to pursue things that had nothing to do with what I loved. In fact, I was discouraged to do what I loved, aggressively and abusively. I'm a fairly "fun" guy and people (including my family) often use(d) me as a way to justify their own negative behavior.

That article (and then the book) showed me two men of integrity; Scott, who would not allow himself to be deluded and distracted by frivolity, and Tom, the writer who had to fight to illustrate that integrity (which, might have had a bigger impact on me.)

Thanks Tom, for these great stories, and thank you for being a part of my growth as a person and a musician.
Thank you for that. It means a lot to me.

To risk a unloading a huge oozing pile of schmaltz on your noggin, I feel kind of like George Baily in It's a Wonderful Life, when he finds out the impact he had on people.

Here's the only time I'll use my own life as an example: Don't waste a moment of time being impotently angry. If your anger serves as a catalyst for action, that's great. But don't sit there and seethe helplessly for years. Meniere's disease is an autoimmune disorder, which means it's caused in part by stress.

It's not worth it.

Thus endeth the lecture.
 
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What? so it was ok to talk about smoking debilitating frog powder but not about smoking anything else that burned? Curious standards.:hmm:
What I discovered through interviewing musicians is that about 90 percent were terrified of being upstaged.

The bassists I interviewed who really stick in my mind as having no fear of being upstaged, who laughed at my comments, and who opened up rather than feeling threatened the more we interacted:

Ray Shulman, Gene Simmons, Scott Thunes, John Taylor, Andy West, Patrick O'Hearn (Zappa, Missing Persons, solo artist), David Vincent (Genitorturers), Bryan Beller, Stephen Jay (Weird Al Yankovic, solo artist), Oleg Bernov (The Red Elvises), Curt Smith (Tears for Fears, Mayfield, solo artist), Andrew Levy (Brand New Heavies), and Arthur Barrow (Zappa, solo artist).

Every one of those ended up asking me questions about myself, and it turned more into a conversation than an interview, which was always my goal.
 
Tom, thanks for the thread, I'm finding it fascinating...

In case you were not aware, Bryan Beller organizes an annual event in LA (usually at the Roxy) called WesFest (A Tribute to Wes Wehmiller | weswehmiller.net), which funds a scholarship for a young bassist at Berklee, in honor of a deceased bassist named Wes Wehmiller. It already happened this year, but you might want to check it out next year. Bryan and the Aristocrats played there this year, as well as Mike Keneally and a bunch of other great musicians.
 
Every one of those ended up asking me questions about myself, and it turned more into a conversation than an interview, which was always my goal.

and those are generally the most interesting to read since there's nothing quite like a good conversation to follow along.

A bit of a left turn at Albuquerque but what's your opinion of the famous/infamous writer Lester Bangs?
 
Thanks Tom for joining TB recently and being thoroughly entertaining with these amazing stories. Your thread has been a great read.
You are indeed a kindred spirit, and we are fortunate to have you here.
Thank you very much.

A brief L.A. story:

I met with a bassist to see if we could get along well enough to do an interview. We were wandering around the street and came across a Guitar Center. I told him my girlfriend played the bass, and we used to go to guitar stores all the time so she could try out the new instruments.

"Oh, yeah? She any good?"

"She's great. She's a slapper."

"Cool. She hot?"

"Extremely hot."

"Man, you shoulda brought her here today so I could meet her!"

"Well, we're not together anymore."

"Yeah? She dump you or you dump her?"

"She dumped me."

"Bummer. Why'd she dump you?"

I said, "I normally don't say things like this, but I'd rather not talk about it. I'm still upset by it."

"Oh. Okay. So she was a slapper, huh? When you guys went to the guitar stars, she'd be slapping away on a bass, pomp-a-t'kang-t'pomp-a-tomp-kang."

"Yup. She'd plug in a bass and slap like Marcus Miller or Louis Johnson, and all the young clerks would gather around her and gawk."

"And they were all thinking, 'Christ, I wanna f*ck her!'"

What could I say? He was absolutely right. I ended up interviewing him, too. When I met him again years later, he said, "Oh, yeah. You're that guy whose hot bassist girlfriend dumped him, huh?"

That's me! See the lasting impressions I make? That's how you do it.
 
A bit of a left turn at Albuquerque but what's your opinion of the famous/infamous writer Lester Bangs?
Here's a quote of his from Wikipedia:

"Well basically I just started out to lead [an interview] with the most insulting question I could think of. Because it seemed to me that the whole thing of interviewing as far as rock stars and that was just such a suck-up. It was groveling obeisance to people who weren't that special, really. It's just a guy, just another person, so what"?

There's a middle ground between Tiger Beat and Lester Bangs. He died at 33 of drugs that were taken to calm anxiety. That and the quote above tell me he likely had a lot of resentment toward his interview subjects.

He may have been in the wrong business. I never resented the vast wealth and fame of some of the bassists I interviewed. That was their story, and it had nothing to do with mine. The fact that someone had a net worth of $200 million made no difference whatsoever in my life, so I never cared.
 
Here's a quote of his from Wikipedia:

"Well basically I just started out to lead [an interview] with the most insulting question I could think of. Because it seemed to me that the whole thing of interviewing as far as rock stars and that was just such a suck-up. It was groveling obeisance to people who weren't that special, really. It's just a guy, just another person, so what"?

There's a middle ground between Tiger Beat and Lester Bangs. He died at 33 of drugs that were taken to calm anxiety. That and the quote above tell me he likely had a lot of resentment toward his interview subjects.

He may have been in the wrong business. I never resented the vast wealth and fame of some of the bassists I interviewed. That was their story, and it had nothing to do with mine. The fact that someone had a net worth of $200 million made no difference whatsoever in my life, so I never cared.

I had a book that collected a lot of his interviews from his time at Creem and basically he took issue w/any subject that didn't adhere to his view of what rock and roll should be. Simply put, rock was meant to be simple and foster rebellion against societal "norms". And it had to be in your face. He loved Ted Nugent, abhorred Aerosmith. He tried his hand at playing in a rock band but it was a mess since he couldn't play guitar. Interesting but kinda repulsive character, I guess a sort of American answer to the snarkiness that the British music press can deliver sometimes. But with demons included and on full display.
 
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