Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Stackpole, Jun 12, 2020.

  1. Stackpole


    Mar 20, 2016
    B79115CE-C517-459E-88A6-E22746D4D428.jpeg This bass for sale locally. I’m not interested in purchasing but curious about this photo showing bridge. Ad says “set up perfectly”. Does this look like intonation could be correct?
  2. ddnidd1

    ddnidd1 Supporting Member

    It might be. It might not be.

    Variations in the manufacture and condition of the strings will dictate how the position of the saddles will appear when the intonation is correct.
  3. Stackpole


    Mar 20, 2016
    Yeah I get that, but that looks pretty drastic. BTW- it’s a FENDER Roadworn, so it’s of at least reasonable quality.
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  4. ddnidd1

    ddnidd1 Supporting Member

    The strings may be beat to crap like the bass, resulting in the somewhat odd placement of the saddles.

    There's no way to tell from an image.
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  5. Stackpole


    Mar 20, 2016
    “Somewhat?” Ok thanks.
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  6. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    Looks to me like it was done on purpose.
    Makes the statement "I'm an artful goofus"
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  7. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Some players don't understand intonation. Seems odd, but if the price is right, are you going to say no because you have to turn a screwdriver?
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  8. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
    This ^

    "Setup perfectly" is most likely just a sales pitch from someone who doesn't really know what that means. Chances are you'll restring it and need to adjust intonation anyway. There is plenty of room on those saddles to do it. If you've never set intonation, its easy. Just Google what to do, all you need is a screwdriver and a tuner. The only issue here is that the seller clearly doesn't know about bass setup. Id be more concerned that they don't know about truss rod functionality, can you play it before committing to buy? Is it returnable? Is it a good deal?
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  9. Plake

    Plake Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2010
    You shouldn’t worry so much. It’s not healthy.
  10. Volker Kirstein

    Volker Kirstein Blippy the Wonder Slug

    :roflmao: Prolly not. But it could be. Easy enough to fix if it isn't. You'll probably restring it and have to redo the intonation anyway, right?

    Anyway, this is no huhu. I'd be much more interested in if the truss rod adjustment works.
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  11. RayWithFlats


    Mar 22, 2020
    on the 1
    Added to that is player preference, “setup perfectly” only ever means “setup perfectly for me”, you may need to tweak it to your liking even if there’s nothing ‘wrong’ with the bass as is.
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2020
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  12. I’ve read that the string core wire size may result in bridge saddle setup not conforming to the traditional saddle positions. Coincidentally I have a 45-100 set on one of my 4 strings that somewhat resembles that bridge. The 45-105 set I took off had saddles located as expected for proper intonation. As always, YMMV
  13. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    Easy enough to check it or set it. But this looks like a pattern. Pretty symmetrical. If the neck is good it wouldn’t turn me away. Just means the last owner didn’t know what they were doing. So you want to check other areas where they could mess things up. I’d assume if someone makes an art project out of the rollers they probably don’t mess with the neck. But definitely check the electronics.
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  14. bobyoung53

    bobyoung53 Supporting Member

    They put those mutes on Fender Roadworns? I would really suspect that the E string may be sharp up the neck.
  15. S.F.Sorrow


    Dec 6, 2014
    Nothing unusual about that. Many commonly used strings intonate VERY differently from the expected "diagonal line".
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  16. HardNHeavy


    Apr 17, 2014
    saddles being that low doesn't tell me anything..if the neck is good and it's in tune at the 12th fret as well as any other open string...
  17. rickdog

    rickdog Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2010
    Those mutes could be affecting intonation. Minor variations in the pressure on the strings could have a significant effect.
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  18. luciens


    Feb 9, 2020
    Another reason I play FL - no psychiatric impacts from hours and hours with a tuner wearing holes in my 12th fret instead of playing.

    Though honestly this would be about at the bottom of the list of concerns I'd have about a used fretted bass either. You have to keep in mind that every time you fret a note you pull or push it a little different every time and therefore the tune of the note too anyway. Especially in the upper registers. So don't spend more than maybe 1/2 hour intonating your bass. In fact, you don't really need a tuner; just do it by ear using harmonics from the other strings and you'll get well close enough to sound fine.

  19. BB Brian

    BB Brian

    Apr 15, 2020
    West Texas
    "Set up perfectly," is obviously a subjective statement. Maybe he is referring to string height and action and doesn't know diddly about intonation? Maybe he just means nothing buzzes? Looking at it, and this could just be the angle, but that D string looks like it's a different height than the A and G over that pickup. It's just one of those things, you know? Like when people ask a seller if a guitar "plays well." That's a relative thing. Some prefer high actions for whatever reasons (maybe they pick or pluck hard and heavy and want to avoid pickup strikes) and some prefer a nice low, easy action because they are smoother and lighter with the touch.

    If you are thinking of buying it, try it first if you can.
  20. HalfManHalfBass


    Jan 21, 2003
    The strings look like D'Addario Chromes which don't usually intonate in that pattern on my basses -but how can anyone even know if this bass is perfectly intonated from a photo alone?

    It's rather unlikely that the industrial, cookie-cutter body making machine at Fender decided to place the bridge 'out of whack' on this one to prevent proper intonation...