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Iron Ether Appreciation Society

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aguacateojos said:
Oooooooh snap. I wonder if this means we'll be receiving ours soon. For folks who've done any recent IE preorders, did you get a shipping confirmation or was it just magically in your mailbox?

Now that I've said that, I hope these USPS shenanigans don't delay our pedals...
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I pre-ordered the DubT. No shipping confirmation in my email yet. Hoping it's soon. I have a feeling the USPS troubles will indeed effect this.
 
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I received a shipping notice before I got the DubT. It didn't just show up unexpectedly. IE was good about communication.

Mine is serial number 4 :)

Here are my thoughts after a day of playing.

I have a SubT on my board. It is an amazing pedal and I was expecting the DubT to take its spot. That's probably not going to happen. They sound and react differently from each other. For now, I prefer the SubT, but keep in mind I've had it for years and have my perfect sound for it dialed in.

I'm finding that I have to adjust my playing style a bit for the DubT. It can glitch out, especially past the 12th fret on the g string. Rolling down the tone and playing near the neck helps a bit.

The SubT reacts very similarly to an OC-2 which is it's own adjustment, but one that is intuitive for me after many years of using analog octave pedals. Makes sense because I think the SubT is analog?

IMO the DubT behaves and sounds somewhere in between the SubT and the Source Audio C4.

Going through a filter like the XD does mask many of my tracking issues and makes a great synth sound. And the octave up option on the octosynth is nice. I'm still messing around with sounds, so my opinion may change.

I'm looking forward to reading other opinions when more of these are out in the wild!
 
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dalo said:
I received a shipping notice before I got the DubT. It didn't just show up unexpectedly. IE was good about communication.

Mine is serial number 4 :)

Here are my thoughts after a day of playing.

I have a SubT on my board. It is an amazing pedal and I was expecting the DubT to take its spot. That's probably not going to happen. They sound and react differently from each other. For now, I prefer the SubT, but keep in mind I've had it for years and have my perfect sound for it dialed in.

I'm finding that I have to adjust my playing style a bit for the DubT. It can glitch out, especially past the 12th fret on the g string. Rolling down the tone and playing near the neck helps a bit.

The SubT reacts very similarly to an OC-2 which is it's own adjustment, but one that is intuitive for me after many years of using analog octave pedals. Makes sense because I think the SubT is analog?

IMO the DubT behaves and sounds somewhere in between the SubT and the Source Audio C4.

Going through a filter like the XD does mask many of my tracking issues and makes a great synth sound. And the octave up option on the octosynth is nice. I'm still messing around with sounds, so my opinion may change.

I'm looking forward to reading other opinions when more of these are out in the wild!
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Thanks for the write-up! How does the DubT sound with just the solo'd lower octave? Similar to the SubT?
 
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aguacateojos said:
Man maybe I should hold on to my SubT for awhile... there's going to be so much octave on my board lol

Thanks for the writeup. Very much looking forward to this new tool.
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I'm with you on the octave section. Juggling a Broughton Synth Voice, Meatbox, Octavbre, COG T-16, SubT, and the incoming DubT trying to narrow it down to 2.
 
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kranahan said:
Well, you have two sub synth pedals and three octave pedals not including the DubT. I’d pick one of each, IMO.
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I'm trying to track down a Broughctave - that way I'll have the two switches to go between clean/octave and just octave. Then with the DubT's two switches, I'll have 4 options on two pedals. But then the little greedy elf in my ear says "what about the Synth Voice???". First world problems, lol.
 
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Jakeman said:
I'm with you on the octave section. Juggling a Broughton Synth Voice, Meatbox, Octavbre, COG T-16, SubT, and the incoming DubT trying to narrow it down to 2.
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kranahan said:
Well, you have two sub synth pedals and three octave pedals not including the DubT. I’d pick one of each, IMO.
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There is such an abundance of bad advice on the Internets, I’ve gotten pretty good at ignoring it, but sometimes you just have to speak up.
“Pick one of each”?!?!?! Wrong answer.
Based on that selection, all of them should be kept. Even if it means putting a couple in a drawer, the best advice is keep them all.
 
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jbybj said:
There is such an abundance of bad advice on the Internets, I’ve gotten pretty good at ignoring it, but sometimes you just have to speak up.
“Pick one of each”?!?!?! Wrong answer.
Based on that selection, all of them should be kept. Even if it means putting a couple in a drawer, the best advice is keep them all.
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I disagree. Pedals should be played, not put in a drawer. Your advice is just as “bad” as mine bud.
 
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I don't really sell pedals, just sort of stack 'em up if they're not on my board. For synths right now I have a C4 and a Future Impact (Compact) on my board and have a Matryoshka in the pile. Then for octaves I have the T16 and a Japanese OC-2 that are both off my board (figuring if I really had a use I could use the C4 for that too).

Sort of thinking of setting up a second board around the IE stuff and not have all the additional MIDI and bypass switching stuff.
 
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kranahan said:
I disagree. Pedals should be played, not put in a drawer. Your advice is just as “bad” as mine bud.
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Many of my favorite pedals have spent months in a drawer, only to come back into rotation, and yield previously undiscovered joys. Revelations even.
I wouldn’t suggest every pedal be spared, no point in keeping crap, but every pedal Jakeman listed is a well designed, well executed, solidly built little box of awesome.
How many times have you read, “wish I’d kept that”, “regretted selling that one”, “if I knew then what I know now”...... maybe 4000-5000 times.
How many times have you read, “really wish I’d sold this awesome pedal that’s been taking up shelf space for 5 years”.....
 
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shaggy45 said:
I sell what I’m not using and buy new things to try.

I’ve rebought a lot of pedals though.

Which isn’t really too hard to do unless it’s a broughton. Then You’re just SOL.
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This. If easy to obtain and you don’t lose too much dinero then sell and try others. Unless you have unlimited funds and can keep them all.
 
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Yeah, at whatever a used pedal sells for 50 to 400$, I'm not really looking for a 'project' to sell stuff. Often times things are 'off my board' not because I didn't love it or what it did, but out of logistic expedience. So I've often opted for pedals that I can have multiple programmed tones and MIDI control over simpler ones that sound great but aren't as easy on the fly on stage if you want multiple sounds out of one pedal. For a while I had 2 or 3 envelope filters on my board so I could have different types of filter without having to fuss with pedals. I now have a Dr. Scientist The Atmosphere reverb on my board rather than the Nimbus SE not because I like the sound better, but because I can program a bunch of sounds and trigger at will.
 
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@Taylor Livingston The XD does such a great job with both my active and passive basses I was wondering which bass(es) you use to demo your creations. Do you mind sharing? Is there a certain “feel” these basses have? Any specific settings? I am excited to combine the XD with the DubT and am curious how dynamic the DubT will be, considering it being an “octave synth” pedal. Thanks in advance!
 
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These days, I have 2 basses. One is a really weird 8-string bass with quartertone frets and other unusual features.

But since that's not very representative of what anybody else is playing, the bass I actually use to test pedals while designing is a passive Fender with a P pickup and a bridge J pickup, which I have strung BEAD. I figure that's a pretty middle-of-the-road instrument in terms of output level and frequency content, and lets me check how things work on a low B. I try things out with the 8-string too just to check with active electronics.

Once a design is pretty much all there, I have a small group of beta testers to test things out with their various instruments and playing styles. Everybody seems to have different setup and technique, which translates to different dynamics, so sometimes things need to be re-tuned based on that feedback.

Most IE pedal users are bassists, but I do also test them all with guitars before finalizing. It can be tricky to tune things like the envelope sensitivity to work with single coil guitar pickups on high strings while simultaneously keeping the range of the knob from being too tweaky on basses.
 
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