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Is Deep Purple in the same league with Led Zeppelin?

Is Deep Purple in the same league with Led Zeppelin?

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#325
-Asdfgh- said:
I object to the idea that Jethro Tull, etc. are relegated to etc.

In the UK, Grand Fun and Cheap Trick would be relegated to the "who" section in the sense of "who are they" and ZZ Top and Aerosmith to the "bands that Americans like". You'd also need to get Queen in there in the top two tiers and promote Floyd to level 2. And much as I like Yes, they'd have to be demoted.

Edit: I missed Queen in there!
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#326
OldDog52 said:
What's That Sound? The squeaky drum pedal on Led Zeppelin song 'Since I've Been Loving You'

"I found an alternative take on this matter [that it was a studio blunder] from some of the band’s biggest supporters.Invalid Link Removed, “I LOVE THAT SQUEAK! That squeak is one of my most favourite things about Led Zeppelin, period. I hope that squeak never gets edited out of ‘Since I’ve Been Loving You’, and I’ll tell you why. I never got to see John Bonham live, but if I close my eyes while I’m listening to that song, and I hear that squeak, it’s like I’m in the studio with them while he’s playing that song. It makes me feel like I am standing right next to him, even though I’m not. That squeak is very precious to me. Jimmy, please never edit that squeak out!”

While many agreed to it, another fan added: “The squeak is one of those things that adds flavour. Just like the telephone that rings during the Ocean. It is a blemish that adds to, rather than subtracts from the music. I am glad that no attempt has been made so far to remove these, and many other ‘faults’ from the studio work. To remove ‘imperfections’ is like a sad attempt at revisionism."
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I've heard that squeaky pedal, here and there, throughout LZ's entire song catalog,
or maybe I'm just hearing things :woot:
Another song it's clearly heard on is All Of My Love, from their last studio album, ITTOD.
I've convinced myself to believe that Bonzo was maybe a little OCD,
and didn't want to risk changing anything about that pedal, for any reason whatsoever,
except of course for the leather strap, which supposedly he broke constantly :D

IIRC, someone asked Page why he didn't remove those squeaks when he remastered the entire LZ catalog,
and he said that he had never noticed them before, but if he did, he would have probably left them on anyway,
out of respect for John Bonham.

Long Live Bonzo's Squeaky Pedal! :thumbsup:
 
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#327
Gluvhand said:
Sabbath was famous for blowing recording budgets on drugs so that explains them. I disagree with you on Purple. While they didn't sound as clean and crisp as Zeppelin's recordings I think they're mixed wonderfully and were a proper portrayal of what DP were. Or not.
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Bands in their situation weren’t generally involved in the budgeting process for albums.

There are stories about them blowing budgets on later albums, like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, by being constantly wasted in expensive studios. But that wouldn’t have been an option for them on the first few albums.
 
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#328
Does just making stuff up become more scientific when sampled across a couple thousand people? I know that even if you sample 30m error over six months data you still won't get down to cm accuracy. So I don't see why consensus is any more valid than me making up what I like.
 
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#330
I was referring to those challenging Mikewalker's analysis on statistical grounds. It's still just random idiot's opinions. It doesn't really matter how scientific you want to pretend your research is. It's not like you're polling them on their blood type. What you're asking them, is for each and every one of them a completely made up personal opinion. What you're sampling is itself somewhat arbitrary. By that measure - the only difference in Tiny Tim and Led Zeppelin as a 'serious artistic endeavor' is what people decide to make of them.
 
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#331
swarfrat said:
I was referring to those challenging Mikewalker's analysis on statistical grounds. It's still just random idiot's opinions. It doesn't really matter how scientific you want to pretend your research is. It's not like you're polling them on their blood type. What you're asking them, is for each and every one of them a completely made up personal opinion. What you're sampling is itself somewhat arbitrary. By that measure - the only difference in Tiny Tim and Led Zeppelin as a 'serious artistic endeavor' is what people decide to make of them.
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Basically then, everything is based on an arbitrary starting point. Fine. But one cannot dismiss the whim of the marketplace. Popularity is making some people obscenely rich. That’s the game, like it or not. Artistic integrity is a neat luxury.
 
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#335
Having seen both Live, no contest Deep Purple made LZ look like fools.

I saw LZ for "Houses of the Holy" and they truly were awful live, barely coherent, and beyond boring. Deep Purple with Glen Hughes for Burn/Stormbringer a couple years later blew them away. FWIW, I think LZ was a great studio band, Bonham's recorded drum sound was spectacular, as was JPJ's playing/arranging and they were likely the better band in the studio.
 
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#337
MattZilla said:
Are you insane?!

The springy kind IS THE REGULAR KIND!

I thought civilized society had fully left those fixed-position ones in the eighteenth century where they belong!
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It's just a study , really.



I still live according to my Aunt Jean's observation ( when I was 16 ) that, "All you ever do is play bass and throw clothes on the floor!".




It's a clean floor.....
 
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#340
JLY said:
That’s just 3 and all from the same (great) album

Zep has a ton more
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Was responding to something along the lines of Purple not being as "long term radio friendly" as Zeppelin. Not who had more hits. And Woman From Tokyo is from Who Do We Think We Are I believe. Not Machine Head. The cover of Hush, Perfect Strangers and Knocking On Your Back Door are also on a lot of classic rock radio station playlists. Neither band had a lot of chart "hits".
 
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