Is it wrong to think you're unattractive?

[Ziltoid]

Walter, this is not Nam!! There are rules!

Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. *

 

[scorpionldr]

Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. *

Okay sir, you're a Lebowski, I'm a Lebowski, that's terrific, I'm very busy so what can I do for you?

 

[Ziltoid]

I'm sorry your stepmother is a nympho.

 

[scorpionldr]

****, she's got to feed the monkey, man.

 

[Ziltoid]

Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes, well, he eats you.


There's so much dialogue in that movie we could go on all night. Should we call it a quit?

 

[scorpionldr]

yea, I have a good three hours and fifty minutes before getting up for work. And you all didn't think I was that committed....:scowl:

 

[Ziltoid]

29 hours before my next class, I should do fine.

 

[scorpionldr]

lol man, what I'd give to be in full swing college again.....all I can say tho is majoring in something that puts you closer to a job goes a long way for good mental health....

 

[Sgt. Rock]

and the solution mentality is met with the classic Big Lebowski quote "**** it, let's go bowling".

I'm sure you were just pumping iron non-stop when you were in your formidable years and taking names, but for the rest of us that weren't screwing everyone we saw, maybe there's some reasoning to be found as to WHY things happened and WHAT can be done about it.

If that sounds piteous to you, there's always other threads.

News flash: life isn't fair, you're going to have struggles. We all do. Suck it up. Withdrawing into oneself due to loneliness when you really want and need a human connection will never make you feel better. Go ahead, ask me how I know that. You can either feel sorry for yourself, or work on your problems, but if you choose the former, you don't deserve sympathy from anyone. It is a choice.

so just spamming internet tough guy logic is doing a ton for you, right?

No, actually working to better myself has though. How about you? I'm sure that constantly lamenting the oppressive nature of existence makes you a real hit at parties.

 

[vin*tone]

Not if you're ugly.

 

[scorpionldr]

News flash: life isn't fair, you're going to have struggles. We all do. Suck it up. Withdrawing into oneself due to loneliness when you really want and need a human connection will never make you feel better. Go ahead, ask me how I know that. You can either feel sorry for yourself, or work on your problems, but if you choose the former, you don't deserve sympathy from anyone. It is a choice.



No, actually working to better myself has though. How about you? I'm sure that constantly lamenting the oppressive nature of existence makes you a real hit at parties.

Yes and we accomplish things that require ppl to ACTUALLY BE AROUND, because if we all used your approach and walked out and shouted "I NEED MORE ****ING FRIENDS!" It would automatically just drive them right out of the woodwork to see, right?

Some ppl, surprisingly enough are incompatible. It's like deciding you want to work in fast food after you've went through college; just because you like ppl and handle crowds well does NOT mean the manager won't give you more tripe because you intimidate him.

Actually let me give you a good example; I decided before I expressed myself here that I would try and go to a group or two. I saw "catholic men's group". I said, "I may be agnostic, but maybe it's possible I'll get along with people because of my catholic upbringing." I went, heard a bunch of bull**** about virtues, which while I lived by, I heard guys relating "Yea, it's a real struggle to go out and manage to avoid one night stands for the right reason." The other variety of guys who weren't single were on that glorious gravy train called marriage. So I sort of raised an eyebrow to it and gently said something to the tune of "isn't there a better way to relate to the virtue of 'prudence' than staking that sexuality or your refraining from it describes how you try to abide by it?". A year later, the group folded.

Or I could say I tried to meet ppl at the aforementioned bar. Only problem is if you don't live by "the standard appearance for a metal head is looking like member of a lower, white trash background" you'll just be tossed aside like some stupid enthusiast when it's likely that person is more knowledgeable on the topic than half the ppl in there.

The point being, you don't fit in and automatically meet ppl everywhere.

 

[Nvr2old]

Something about confidence.

If you are short like me, but have a complex about it, then you will blame other people's reactions on your height, when in fact they are really reacting to your own judgment of yourself. A short confident man will never be called a Napolean, because people won't think of their height as a defining feature of them. A short man who feels shortchanged by destiny and that tall men get all the respect and women, will betray this insecurity by his actions and demeanor, and he will inevitably be betrayed by his own insecurity.

+1

 

[Nvr2old]

Humanity? We're an all inclusive party.

I think 3,000+ years of pretty much ongoing war, prejudice, and discrimination suggest otherwise.

 

[scorpionldr]

I think 3,000+ years of pretty much ongoing war, prejudice, and discrimination suggest otherwise.

Yes but remember, it's 2013; we clearly killed all forms of discrimination .

But you could argue wars were demonstrative of humanity's efforts to cultivate like the animals did. Especially in earlier times before either WW took place

 

[Sgt. Rock]

Yes and we accomplish things that require ppl to ACTUALLY BE AROUND, because if we all used your approach and walked out and shouted "I NEED MORE ****ING FRIENDS!" It would automatically just drive them right out of the woodwork to see, right?

Go ahead and show me where I suggested that. I'll wait.

Some ppl, surprisingly enough are incompatible. It's like deciding you want to work in fast food after you've went through college; just because you like ppl and handle crowds well does NOT mean the manager won't give you more tripe because you intimidate him.

Actually let me give you a good example; I decided before I expressed myself here that I would try and go to a group or two. I saw "catholic men's group". I said, "I may be agnostic, but maybe it's possible I'll get along with people because of my catholic upbringing." I went, heard a bunch of bull**** about virtues, which while I lived by, I heard guys relating "Yea, it's a real struggle to go out and manage to avoid one night stands for the right reason." The other variety of guys who weren't single were on that glorious gravy train called marriage. So I sort of raised an eyebrow to it and gently said something to the tune of "isn't there a better way to relate to the virtue of 'prudence' than staking that sexuality or your refraining from it describes how you try to abide by it?". A year later, the group folded.

Or I could say I tried to meet ppl at the aforementioned bar. Only problem is if you don't live by "the standard appearance for a metal head is looking like member of a lower, white trash background" you'll just be tossed aside like some stupid enthusiast when it's likely that person is more knowledgeable on the topic than half the ppl in there.

The point being, you don't fit in and automatically meet ppl everywhere.

No, the point is you are arguing against a statement I never made in the first place. Conversations do not consist of one-way communication. Perhaps this is why you have difficulty making friends. You have to actually listen to what people say, instead of putting words in their mouth and arguing against them (see: straw man argument).

 

[scorpionldr]

Go ahead and show me where I suggested that. I'll wait.

News flash: life isn't fair, you're going to have struggles. We all do. Suck it up. Withdrawing into oneself due to loneliness when you really want and need a human connection will never make you feel better. Go ahead, ask me how I know that. You can either feel sorry for yourself, or work on your problems, but if you choose the former, you don't deserve sympathy from anyone. It is a choice.

What do you think THIS says? I never said inaction was a solution to anything.

You're a master of assumption right now and come across as incredibly dense to try and communicate with considering you're putting words in my mouth for words I've never said.

In fact I've been encouraging others to try and contribute meaningful ideas rather than just discarding a situation which I'm sure I'm not the only one on the forum with these issues. However when a married or relationship majority posts "forget about it", it's not only useless, but creates repetition.

I'm sorry your so unable to see this, as I ASSUME your another mid forty to fifty year old who says "suck it up or go suck ****" thinking you're hilarious. I never offered inaction in substitute for constructive thought, something you mention and never make good on your delivery of.

 

[Sgt. Rock]

What do you think THIS says? I never said inaction was a solution to anything.

It says "work on your problems". That's going to be different for everyone. Talk therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, medication, diet and exercise can all have favorable results. Some people find another path. The point is you have to take an active role if you want anything to change.

You're a master of assumption right now and come across as incredibly dense to try and communicate with considering you're putting words in my mouth for words I've never said.

Everyone reading this can see how ridiculous it is for you to even try to call me "dense to communicate with." Your reading comprehension is atrocious and your writing is sub-par as well. Where exactly *have* you offered up any suggestions? Since your M.O. is to make endless straw man arguments and now you're complaining that that is what I did (after I pointed it out to you no less), it's quite likely that what you are doing is projecting your own faults.

In fact I've been encouraging others to try and contribute meaningful ideas rather than just discarding a situation which I'm sure I'm not the only one on the forum with these issues. However when a married or relationship majority posts "forget about it", it's not only useless, but creates repetition.

Not sure what you're on about at all in this paragraph. See above regarding sub-par writing. Revise and repost.

I'm sorry your so unable to see this, as I ASSUME your another mid forty to fifty year old who says "suck it up or go suck ****" thinking you're hilarious. I never offered inaction in substitute for constructive thought, something you mention and never make good on your delivery of.

Passive aggression is a weak man's tool. You're not sorry for anything, but you are wrong on every level. Every single post that I drag up of yours is morose, overwhelmingly negative, hopeless, and drenched in self-pity, and after reading the responses of quite a few members here, I'm not the only one to see it. You write as a powerless person. Like it or not, that's *exactly* how you come across.

An inability to form meaningful relationships with people in the real world coupled with internet addiction is a first world problem. Lets not pretend it's an insurmountable challenge.

EDIT: Actually, I seem to recall at least one other poster specifically advising you to get yourself into some form of therapy. If memory serves, you ignored or dismissed the idea, which indicates an unwillingness to change. I'll wager you won't stop posting about your misery though. That would be the aforementioned "do nothing syndrome".

 

[Big Brother]

It says "work on your problems". That's going to be different for everyone. Talk therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, medication, diet and exercise can all have favorable results. Some people find another path. The point is you have to take an active role if you want anything to change.



Everyone reading this can see how ridiculous it is for you to even try to call me "dense to communicate with." Your reading comprehension is atrocious and your writing is sub-par as well. Where exactly *have* you offered up any suggestions? Since your M.O. is to make endless straw man arguments and now you're complaining that that is what I did (after I pointed it out to you no less), it's quite likely that what you are doing is projecting your own faults.



Not sure what you're on about at all in this paragraph. See above regarding sub-par writing. Revise and repost.



Passive aggression is a weak man's tool. You're not sorry for anything, but you are wrong on every level. Every single post that I drag up of yours is morose, overwhelmingly negative, hopeless, and drenched in self-pity, and after reading the responses of quite a few members here, I'm not the only one to see it. You write as a powerless person. Like it or not, that's *exactly* how you come across.

An inability to form meaningful relationships with people in the real world coupled with internet addiction is a first world problem. Lets not pretend it's an insurmountable challenge.

EDIT: Actually, I seem to recall at least one other poster specifically advising you to get yourself into some form of therapy. If memory serves, you ignored or dismissed the idea, which indicates an unwillingness to change. I'll wager you won't stop posting about your misery though. That would be the aforementioned "do nothing syndrome".

So this is how one forms 'meaningful relationships?'

 

[scorpionldr]

It says "work on your problems". That's going to be different for everyone. Talk therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, medication, diet and exercise can all have favorable results. Some people find another path. The point is you have to take an active role if you want anything to change.



Everyone reading this can see how ridiculous it is for you to even try to call me "dense to communicate with." Your reading comprehension is atrocious and your writing is sub-par as well. Where exactly *have* you offered up any suggestions? Since your M.O. is to make endless straw man arguments and now you're complaining that that is what I did (after I pointed it out to you no less), it's quite likely that what you are doing is projecting your own faults.



Not sure what you're on about at all in this paragraph. See above regarding sub-par writing. Revise and repost.



Passive aggression is a weak man's tool. You're not sorry for anything, but you are wrong on every level. Every single post that I drag up of yours is morose, overwhelmingly negative, hopeless, and drenched in self-pity, and after reading the responses of quite a few members here, I'm not the only one to see it. You write as a powerless person. Like it or not, that's *exactly* how you come across.

An inability to form meaningful relationships with people in the real world coupled with internet addiction is a first world problem. Lets not pretend it's an insurmountable challenge.

EDIT: Actually, I seem to recall at least one other poster specifically advising you to get yourself into some form of therapy. If memory serves, you ignored or dismissed the idea, which indicates an unwillingness to change. I'll wager you won't stop posting about your misery though. That would be the aforementioned "do nothing syndrome".

I mentioned dieting and exercise outside of this thread. I do deal a lot with approach anxiety.

I dismissed therapy because last time I "sought help" I was offered a buffet of drugs to help zombie me out; I'm not that desperate.

Sub-par writing? Oh well. My reading comprehension is spot on; I know what you wrote when you didn't feel challenged.

Passive aggressive; I'm amazed I haven't become completely aggressive by now.

As for "coping with reality" I've made numerous true accounts of events where I attempted to break the cycle. Nobody seems to notice that.

 

[Sgt. Rock]

So this is how one forms 'meaningful relationships?'

No.