Is this the latest eBay scam?

[rogerbmiller]

He's got a ton of ID labels for sale on Ebay now. Marshal 9001 preamp, etc...

Well let's keep reporting him until he gets the ban hammer up there.

 

[Jeff Scott]

I was wondering how close the label for that Marshall gets to sounding like the real thing.

 

[gln1955]

After banning this guy from TB, he immediately tried to sign up a dupe account.
Always a clear sign of an honest and reputable person...

Sounds like the "box guy". That's it! You get the label and later you get the box. It all makes sense now.

 

[fuzzychaos]

The problem with things like Paypal is they're heavily automated. So they're great at dealing with routine things which account for 99% of what passes through their system. When something goes wrong however is where they often fall down for the individuals having a problem.

And it's not just Paypal. I've done all my banking with the same bank for over thirty years. I have a substantial equity line of credit with them. And an excellent credit score. But last year I had my ATM card put on hold for two days. Why? Because I ordered something online with it (a subscription renewal to Scott's Bass Academy) and the bank's automated fraud detection algorithm got suspicious because the billing originated from a site in the UK.

I got no notification. No email, text, or even a phone call. They just froze the card. Something I discovered when I went to use it to pay for a week's worth of groceries at a supermarket the following morning. And when I called, the bank's cardholder security people, they got a little put out that I was annoyed.

First they claimed (not true) that I never ordered anything from a non-US company directly before. When I pointed out it was a renewal, there was a long pause and no reply. When I asked why I wasn't notified they claimed I hadn't given the bank any contact information. Then I pointed out they most certainy had my contact info. You need to show a photo ID just to open a checking account there. And they insist on you furnishing a phone number when you do. And when I applied for that equity credit line they got every bit of personal and contact information I had short of me being fingerprinted and asked to submit a DNA sample. Then this lady hopefully asked: "Have you changed your phone number recently?"

After several back and forths in a similar vein she finally admitted she had no idea why the freeze happened or why I wasn't immediately notified per the bank's own policy. At which point she said: "I'm removing the hold right now, and updating your profile so an international payment request shouldn't make this happen going forward, m'kay?"

Huh? Shouldn't happen going forward?

Yeah. Swell. That would be great.

My bank, where I've been a customer for many years, one time let two charges for daily commuter tickets go through at a train station in Belgium. I asked them why they allowed that and they said it seemed like a legitimate charge. I pointed out that 20 minutes before that I had purchased breakfast at a local McDonalds with the same card, I could not possibly have made it to Belgium from Ohio is 20 minutes... Moral of both stories? Banks are stupid.

 

[Spectre Gunner]

Makes you wonder what level of talent this idiot
has at playing the bass?

 

[swarfrat]

What makes you wonder? The scam, or the guitar preamp he's also selling (a label for)

 

[el murdoque]

I need some help here. English is not my native tongue and so i'm having problems interpreting dufus English.

So far i've seen an Ebay ad that had 'scam' written all over it. But I seem to be too stupid to get the scheme.

This guy tries to sell a bass. Ok.
For a reason that escapes me, he only advertises to sell the ID tag and makes some vague promises that indicate that the buyer will receive a free item 21 days later, the intention is clear that he means the bass.
From what I've seen so far one could conclude that the sellers plan is to enter a legal binding contract with a buyer to buy an ID tag of a bass for the price of a bass (and a diffuse promise of a free item). The money gets sent via Paypal and sits there until the buyer cannot withdraw it again. When that 21 day period has passed, the seller will retrieve the money, and may or may not send a free item, which may or may not be the bass.

In a normal Scheme, the lengths the victim has to go to enter the scheme are fueled by greed.
I don't see here where that is the case.

First of all, I don't get why anyone would buy that bass, since it seems reasonably priced. If it was a 1964 Fender in mint condition for 800 bucks i'd get that one would put up with something so obscure because one would obtain a premium item grossly under price.

Then I can't follow his explanation why he does this. Where is HIS gain in selling the Label for the price of the bass and then shipping the bass later as a free gift.
To fool someone, that someone has to believe that this transaction is done in this weird fashion because the seller will profit from that. I could see that you buy the Item for $2 and then send the full price and recieve the bass so he can escape ebay fees. But he's listing the full price. So what is his gain in this?

help!

 

[swarfrat]

The scam is likely that you get a label and 21 days later, a paper clip, meanwhile he's strung you along until your window of Paypal protection has ended.

 

[Jeff Scott]

I need some help here. English is not my native tongue and so i'm having problems interpreting dufus English.

So far i've seen an Ebay ad that had 'scam' written all over it. But I seem to be too stupid to get the scheme.

This guy tries to sell a bass. Ok.
For a reason that escapes me, he only advertises to sell the ID tag and makes some vague promises that indicate that the buyer will receive a free item 21 days later, the intention is clear that he means the bass.
From what I've seen so far one could conclude that the sellers plan is to enter a legal binding contract with a buyer to buy an ID tag of a bass for the price of a bass (and a diffuse promise of a free item). The money gets sent via Paypal and sits there until the buyer cannot withdraw it again. When that 21 day period has passed, the seller will retrieve the money, and may or may not send a free item, which may or may not be the bass.

In a normal Scheme, the lengths the victim has to go to enter the scheme are fueled by greed.
I don't see here where that is the case.

First of all, I don't get why anyone would buy that bass, since it seems reasonably priced. If it was a 1964 Fender in mint condition for 800 bucks i'd get that one would put up with something so obscure because one would obtain a premium item grossly under price.

Then I can't follow his explanation why he does this. Where is HIS gain in selling the Label for the price of the bass and then shipping the bass later as a free gift.
To fool someone, that someone has to believe that this transaction is done in this weird fashion because the seller will profit from that. I could see that you buy the Item for $2 and then send the full price and recieve the bass so he can escape ebay fees. But he's listing the full price. So what is his gain in this?

help!

The buyer is never going to get the bass (or, anything else this guys is offering). You don't even necessarily get the label for the selling price (you can make up your own label, remember?).

Hope this helps.

 

[rogerbmiller]

The scam is likely that you get a label and 21 days later, a paper clip, meanwhile he's strung you along until your window of Paypal protection has ended.

And since he technically never listed the bass as something he is selling the protection would be useless.

 

[MCF]

Username @Zneptune

I politely declined earlier and he just sent me a very defamatory message. Which is a sure way to know that it is indeed a scam.

So is ther a way to get this guy banned?

 

[MCF]

Looks like this turkey was banned already.

Good riddance!

Thank you mods.

 

[scouse2000]

Ebay says the seller has been a member since 2010 but he has no feedback ??

 

[WardEarth]

I've made contact. Planning to string the Balkan along with vague questions.

 

[el murdoque]

The buyer is never going to get the bass (or, anything else this guys is offering). You don't even necessarily get the label for the selling price (you can make up your own label, remember?).

Hope this helps.

Sadly not.
What I fail to see is the carrot.
I just did a quick google search on Heartfield basses. Japanese from the nineties. Are they worth more than he asks?

 

[charlie monroe]

Sadly not.
What I fail to see is the carrot.
I just did a quick google search on Heartfield basses. Japanese from the nineties. Are they worth more than he asks?

You aren't missing anything. Your comprehension is up to speed.

This is a transparent scam run by an obtuse amateur. The carrot is indeed missing from this deal. Someone has just said that he has been on eBay since 2010 yet has no feedback. This is the evidence that the scam doesn't work for him.

So far as I know, the Heartfield is priced pretty fairly, meaning that the component of greed is missing, allowing buyers to think clearly and avoid the trap.

 

[Gorn]

His pitch is that he's really selling you a bass but because PayPal holds his money he's selling you "wink wink" a label and the free gift is the bass.

Of course what he really seems to be doing is getting your money and sending you a paper clip and leaving you with no recourse.

But what the hell does this mean? I still don't get it. Put what information on a post it and attach it to what? Within the clever rouse that's going on in his brain, what does this mean?



If U R a creative type U may also choose to write the same information on a post it note & attach it to said item if you happen to have it. There are many options for you with this flexible labeling system and you will never be confused about what is what =D

 

[el murdoque]

You aren't missing anything. Your comprehension is up to speed.

This is a transparent scam run by an obtuse amateur. The carrot is indeed missing from this deal. Someone has just said that he has been on eBay since 2010 yet has no feedback. This is the evidence that the scam doesn't work for him.

So far as I know, the Heartfield is priced pretty fairly, meaning that the component of greed is missing, allowing buyers to think clearly and avoid the trap.

So we're talking about the new DirectScam2.0 (TM).
Let's cut out the ******** with the sick Grandma and get right to the point where you wire the money and I run off.
That's fresh indeed! I like it!

His pitch is that he's really selling you a bass but because PayPal holds his money he's selling you "wink wink" a label and the free gift is the bass.

Of course what he really seems to be doing is getting your money and sending you a paper clip and leaving you with no recourse.

But what the hell does this mean? I still don't get it. Put what information on a post it and attach it to what? Within the clever rouse that's going on in his brain, what does this mean?



If U R a creative type U may also choose to write the same information on a post it note & attach it to said item if you happen to have it. There are many options for you with this flexible labeling system and you will never be confused about what is what =D

I think, as far as my interpretation of dufus English goes, he is just elaborating on the ID Label thing.

He says he will send you a label.

To speed things up, if you know your way around a computer well enough to master notepad and the print command, he offers to tell you how to make one yourself (Open notepad, write 'Heartfield bass', press ctrl+p - et voilà, you got your label) instead.

Or, as a third option, you could just write Heartfield bass on a Post-it and stick it to your Heartfield bass, so you don't mix it up with one of your Fenders by accident. Once you mastered that technique, you can, if you happen to have Post-its left, label anything. Put a label that says 'Toaster' on your Toaster and one that says 'Blender' on your blender and you will never have to deal with blended toast in the morning again ;-)

 

[Gorn]

It's fun to read the pitch to yourself and smile like a lunatic when he puts the smilies in.

 

[el murdoque]

It's fun to read the pitch to yourself and smile like a lunatic when he puts the smilies in.

I also speak the capital letters in a MUCH louder voice. =D