It Ain't Pretty, But It Sounds Really Good!

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He's really bad at bass playing.

That said, I don't think that there's any such thing as "too aggressively." The problem is more that lots of people can't dig in aggressively without being sloppy as well.


He also talks way too much. Didn't hear the bass until halfway through the video.


My Epiphone T-bird doesn't dive at all.


Funny how people always say Gibson basses are muddy, while this is anything but that. In fact it's very, very clear.


I think most Gibson basses are pretty cool looking. Just the pickups on quite a few of them aren't really configured to sound the way I want basses to sound.

Yeah, I have some other similar era Gibsons (Ripper, Grabber, G3, RD Standard), and they're all much more "thuddy" or "muddy" than the Victory. The strings help I'm sure but it's more than just that, they were going for something different with the Victory. I think they're underappreciated.

 

[Korladis]

Yeah, I have some other similar era Gibsons (Ripper, Grabber, G3, RD Standard), and they're all much more "thuddy" or "muddy" than the Victory. The strings help I'm sure but it's more than just that, they were going for something different with the Victory. I think they're underappreciated.

The only Gibson basses I've ever tried are EBs (old ones) and Thunderbirds. Never played an RD, or the other unusual 70s ones.

 

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The only Gibson basses I've ever tried are EBs (old ones) and Thunderbirds. Never played an RD, or the other unusual 70s ones.

EBs are thuddy (IMHO); Tbirds aren't, they're a whole 'nother sound and beast entirely.

 

[Korladis]

EBs are thuddy (IMHO); Tbirds aren't, they're a whole 'nother sound and beast entirely.

Indeed. I can get my Epi T-bird to be thuddy if I want, but it's not the sound I use from it most of the time.

 

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He also talks way too much. Didn't hear the bass until halfway through the video.

I just wish he’d stop with the in jokes to his GF at the start of the videos.

 

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I just wish he’d stop with the in jokes to his GF at the start of the videos.

Yeah, I wish he'd just shut up in general, lame and annoying, and the constant "nobody's interested" schtick gets thin fast.

 

[veebass]

I have a Standard and an Artist. Great basses, if a little heavy. But hey! So were many basses around that time- it was viewed as a plus.
The Artist has a board in it but much smaller and different functionality to the RD Artist.
The original clip really doesn't do them justice sonically. Thank goodness for the clips members have posted.

Another really great thing about them is the neck- a nice wide 43- 44mm at the nut but a C profile rather than a deeper D.
Very, very comfy necks if you like a P Bass neck.

The bridge is great as well.

Much under rated basses.

 

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I have a Standard and an Artist. Great basses, if a little heavy. But hey! So were many basses around that time- it was viewed as a plus.
The Artist has a board in it but much smaller and different functionality to the RD Artist.
The original clip really doesn't do them justice sonically. Thank goodness for the clips members have posted.

Another really great thing about them is the neck- a nice wide 43- 44mm at the nut but a C profile rather than a deeper D.
Very, very comfy necks if you like a P Bass neck.

The bridge is great as well.

Much under rated basses.

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Mine definitely must be modded with a bridge pickup volume rather than a selector switch (came this way from ebay). I guess I like it even better this way, though maybe I should put it back to stock.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

It somehow reminds me of a 1950 Studebaker. go figure.

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My parents had one of those. The 4 door version had suicide door on the rear.

 

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I had to play one of those for a weekend while my bass was in the shop...... it was a long & unpleasant sounding weekend.

 

[gjohnson441496]

He's really bad at bass playing.

That said, I don't think that there's any such thing as "too aggressively." The problem is more that lots of people can't dig in aggressively without being sloppy as well.


He also talks way too much. Didn't hear the bass until halfway through the video.


My Epiphone T-bird doesn't dive at all.


Funny how people always say Gibson basses are muddy, while this is anything but that. In fact it's very, very clear.


I think most Gibson basses are pretty cool looking. Just the pickups on quite a few of them aren't really configured to sound the way I want basses to sound.

I don't think he talks too much. I like the fact that he gives history about the instruments he demo's. I do think those guys at Anderton's talk WAY TOO MUCH, and I wind up skipping through their videos because they blather on ad nauseum.

 

[gjohnson441496]

I just wish he’d stop with the in jokes to his GF at the start of the videos.

I start his videos and skip the first minute. That stuff usually last no more than a minute and a half.

 

[Wood and Wire]

I'd totally forgotten about these.

Used to run in to them, from time to time, in the early 90's - they were always gathering dust behind the Grabbers, and Thunderbirds - and everybody would scoff at them.

I never cared for them myself, truth be told, I thought they were pretty ghastly at the time.

I'm surprised to say - I'm really digging it now.

As I get older, I like sugar less and less, and can't get enough of really ripe cheeses - I can't see that is in any way related to the Victory bass...

 

[Artman]

I had one of those Victory Basses back in the eighties. I thought the sound was weak and the neck felt rough. Seemed to have a few dead spots in it too. I was pretty happy to have gotten rid of it. Hard to believe it's considered desirable these days.

 

[Wood and Wire]

My parents had one of those. The 4 door version had suicide door on the rear.

In those days, most American cars came fitted with a suicide glovebox, suicide radio knobs, suicide steering wheel ornaments, and no seatbelts.

I guess the suicide rear doors where the optional extra, for those really hellbent on auto destruction.

As an added bonus, all the sharp pointy bits at the front were ideal for impaling pedestrians, and harpooning the other vehicle you plough into, in your bid for suicide glory.

Those postmortem X-rays, that Ralph Nader made public, when suing the auto industry into finally put seatbelts in cars, are comically shocking.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

In those days, most American cars came fitted with a suicide glovebox, suicide radio knobs, suicide steering wheel ornaments, and no seatbelts.

I guess the suicide rear doors where the optional extra, for those really hellbent on auto destruction.

As an added bonus, all the sharp pointy bits at the front were ideal for impaling pedestrians, and harpooning the other vehicle you plough into, in your bid for suicide glory.

Those postmortem X-rays, that Ralph Nader made public, when suing the auto industry into finally put seatbelts in cars, are comically shocking.

In those days, most American cars came fitted with a suicide glovebox, suicide radio knobs, suicide steering wheel ornaments, and no seatbelts.

I guess the suicide rear doors where the optional extra, for those really hellbent on auto destruction.

As an added bonus, all the sharp pointy bits at the front were ideal for impaling pedestrians, and harpooning the other vehicle you plough into, in your bid for suicide glory.

Those postmortem X-rays, that Ralph Nader made public, when suing the auto industry into finally put seatbelts in cars, are comically shocking.

Thank you for your absolutely hysterical post. At the same time, an unfortunate actutate assement of the automotive engineering in the last century

 

[Pbassmanca]

This bass has some serious tone going on...

When I hear "it sounds good...." , that's what I care about ; that's what gets me excited. Looks are secondary. Looks be damned. GIVE ME THE TONE BABY.......

 

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I had one of those Victory Basses back in the eighties. I thought the sound was weak and the neck felt rough. Seemed to have a few dead spots in it too. I was pretty happy to have gotten rid of it. Hard to believe it's considered desirable these days.

You must have had a really bad one then. When played through a decent amp they had plenty of kick. I don’t know why the neck felt rough on yours. Weird. But if it did, it did. Ditto the dead spots. But again, if it had them, it had them. No argument from me since you played it and I didn’t.

I’m just sorry yours didn’t work out for you. So it goes.

 

[Omega Monkey]

I do think those guys at Anderton's talk WAY TOO MUCH, and I wind up skipping through their videos because they blather on ad nauseum.

Oh god those guys are the worst, and they think they're so hilarious and interesting. On top of that, they make dumba$$ mistakes in pretty much every video AND the playing is not very good either. They did a demo of the little Tony Iommi Laney practice amp, and the guy couldn't even play War Pigs properly. GTFOOH with that nonsense.

Maybe I'll break out my webcam and do a youtube tutorial series on how to do youtube demos. It should really not be difficult. Honestly, they should have little if any talking, and start with playing up front. You can do all the exposition in text. Also, FFS, please use a normal camera angle, not some random fraction of an instrument, or your ugly face, or the camera sitting on the damn floor. And if you can't get reasonably good sound quality for a music gear demo, just don't bother, please. And if it's a guitar or bass demo, you either need to be a reasonable distance from the amp, or have it cranked up decently, otherwise we're just hearing your strings/picking.

 

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