It's all relative...

My new rig is a Carvin BX1200 through an LDS 15/6.5 cab.



It's still new to me, but I use it in a Rock cover band ranging from Zeppelin and Sabbath to Poison and J. Geils Band to STP, Pearl Jam, and Tool to Finger Eleven and Theory of a Deadman, and don't forget a little Stevie Wonder, Wild Cherry, and others thrown in for good measure. We usually always have PA support, so I use the DI on my amp to go through the PA. There are times when I still need plenty of power on stage, and there are also occasional gigs when my rig needs to cover the room. Plus, I want my tone to inspire me on stage, and I think this rig will be the best I've ever had. And the head is interchangeable!

EDIT: I should have also mentioned that my guitarist uses a 120 watt tube head through a 412 cab. However, we do generally adjust our volume to match the drummer, and the guitarist does usually use a DI box.

As for the venues we play, they range from smaller rooms to open outdoor shows.

 

Ok, I'll play. Presently, I have 2 projects. First is a party band. We all work together (in a large TV production studio), and we play classic rock covers, both for our own amusement, and,...for parties. We have a PA for vocals only, so my bass amp is my only support. I use an SVT 6Pro through a Mesa Deisel 215. The guitarists are using Fender Twins and Mesa Rectifiers/412's. There's also keyboards, which sometimes also get some PA support. We're not deafening loud, but it is rock n roll. Then, there's the original project. A former member of an old "bar gigging" band of mine from way back, and myself, are working on new original music, sort of prog-rock meets Steve Vai/Zappa sorta thing. We are not presently gigging, just recording our stuff in preperation of a (hopefully) new band. I may very well use the 6Pro 215 rig for this project, but expect to not need that kind of horsepower. So, my 2nd rig is a Mesa Walkabout head on a GB Uber 212. I expect this will be plenty for any bar gigs we eventually play. I record direct.

 

I play in a surf band and could get by for 90% of what we do with my Bassman 120 combo: 100W into a single 15" speaker. For outdoors I would of course need a bit more, and for that I have a Sunn coliseum amp with a G-K 4x10.

 

I use a preamp (Ampeg SVP-PRO), a Crown CE-1000 (1,100 watts bridged into 4 ohms) and a 4-ohm Schroeder 1212R. I sometimes add a 4-ohm Carvin 1x15 and run the Crown amp in stereo mode - 450 watts per cabinet at 4 ohms.

I play in a loud classic rock cover band (Judas Priest, Ted Nugent, Black Sabbath) with a lead guitarist who uses a Marshall half stack and a rhythm guitarist who uses a Fender twin. I also play in a slightly quieter blues band with a lead guitarist who plays a blackface Fender Super (4x12), a harp player who uses a Peavey Classic 30 (all tube), a keyboard with a 130 watt SS amp, and a loud drummer. That band plays Bonnie Raitt, Melissa Etheridge, Susan Tedeschi (Derek Trucks), SRV, etc.

My rig is loud enough with just the Schroeder cab to play medium venues (audiences of 200 - 300) without PA support. It is also loud enough - again, with just the Schroeder cab - to provide stage monitoring at ANY size indoor venue with PA support. I only add the 1x15 for outdoor gigs, and that's because we are usually more spread out on a larger stage and I can point one cab at me and the other cab at the drummer.

Bass in the monitors seldom works very well, IME. Maybe because the monitors are not bass-optimized, and maybe becausethe bass tends to cover up our lower-voiced female vocalist. We just use monitors for vocals and sometimes a little keys, a little harp and a little lead guitar.

 

I play in a fairly loud band, doing classic and new rock - anything from Stones to Cult to Collective Soul covers. My current favourite setup is my DB750 and two Eden 210XST cabs. I'm typically set with master on around 10:00. The guitarist beside me uses a Vox AC30, cranked up to get the crunch. The drummer is fairly loud, there's a keyboardist, and another guitarist using a Mesa amp with 210 cabinet.

We have a small PA, Yamaha main cabs with one powered sub. We mic everything, but at most gigs a lot of the sound is coming from the stage. Vocals get the bulk of the PA support. The kick is up front in the mix, and my bass usually just gets a tiny bit of clarity from the PA.

My rig gives me and the band a really solid platform on stage. The sound feels great, and makes the grooves even better. I played outdoors last week, and didn't bother with any PA support. There were many comments about how punchy and yet full the bass sound was.

With the Aguilar amp, I have tons of headroom, and I can do any stage from a backyard party to an arena. (And I do have some arena stuff coming up.) The Eden head is ideal for the smaller jazz and piano trio gigs I also do. Both rigs have their specific uses, and between them I can cover anything I've come up against so far without pain or strain!

 

All of the cabs, and amps are listed in my sig.


Context: Stoner rock/doom. This is a style of music that is meant to be louder than everything else. For anyone unfamiliar, just think of Black Sabbath but slower, louder, and lower tuned. My band is just drums and bass, no vocals, no guitars. There are a couple reasons we choose to play so loud. Part of it is us being sick of how tame a lot of local heavy music has become. Heavy music has way more impact the louder it is and I don't see how anyone could deny that. It's not all about the volume though, but also the vibrations. It's important to us that everything be felt as much as heard. It's a major part of the whole relaxing/meditative aspect of this sort of music.

Never played a place where I needed any of my rig mic'd. My drummers drums are somehow louder than my rig, so most of the time he'll just tell sound guys to not even mic him. I've only been asked to turn down a couple times, which I never do. I'm not an a-hole about it, but I just say...look, this is the volume we always play at, and it's an important part of our live show for us, so no, I'm not turning down. It's never been a problem after that.

Soundguys will hate me when we start playing venues where there might be a reason to mic my rig, but I've made a stage plot to send to venues so at the very least it won't be such a surprise when we start setting up this wall of cabs. ha

 

I know my cab is merely a 15 with a 6.5 midrange, but it is freakin' loud, and it can handle lots of power from what I've heard...

 

In a lot of towns, the rock club is dead. Rock as we know it is a much smaller world than it used to be, with electronic, hip hop and a bunch of other types of music taking a segment of the listening public.

In a lot of towns dedicated rock clubs don't exist any more, so people have to find other venues, which don't really want the volume. Coffee houses, cafes and restaurants have become common place venues, unfortunately.

In my case, I'm using 500w into a 15 and a 2x12. Not for volume but for tone. To me wattage and speaker area equate to creating clear big lows without distortion. I don't want to blast, but as a reggae player I want to be able to push my 40-100hz without straining my speakers or my amp.

 

Yep. I use a 1-12 on nearly very gig (EA Cxl-112, or more recently fEarful 12/6) with 500 watts. I play the dreaded wine bar circuit, doing either old school trio jazz or country/country rock/classic rock. Just about all my gigs are on EUB these days, and I don't even own a fretted bass. I play with a drummer <5% of the time, PA support <5%, loud guitar <1%. I mix plenty of loud bands, but will not play like that myself if I can possibly avoid it. The one exception is my original psycho jazz fusion project, which can get fairly loud.

I rarely play anywhere where dancing is very important, and I can often listen to tableside conversations while I play. I like it that way, and I have played "Crazy Train" in at least one of these venues. With slide bass playing the lead part, no less. Energy and volume are not necessarily closely related in my world. I despise any form of music that's watered down though...so we're kind of on the same page there. But frankly, if there weren't a winery circuit out here I wouldn't be gigging at all. Different strokes...

BTW, this clip is from an early evening winery gig I played a couple of weeks go. Terrible vid and sound quality, but it still has a bit of energy, no?

 

My mini-rig stays at my (small!) church. I don't have a pic to post, sorry. It is a Shuttle 6.0 sitting on a Mojo Mini-T. I haven't played many cabs this small, but this one sounds quite 'non-boxy'. I stand right next to the worship leader who plays keys & sings so I don't even need a monitor, I hear hers quite well. We haven't had a drummer for months and I miss him!
I play in a guitar/bass/drum blues (all original tunes) trio outside of church. So far it has always been with supplied PA. We did a gig a few weeks ago where the FOH was Behringer stuff which I didn't want to trust for bass reinforcement, so I supplemented my Thunderfunk 550/Accugroove Tri-115 with a Tri-112. We didn't get a sound check and I started off TOO loud.

 

My main gigging amp is the Carvin BRX212 combo. For the unwashed, it is an 800 watt head with the same front end as the massive B1500 in a 2x12 combo. Powering the internal speakers, it produces 500 watts, plus a little 50W amp for the horn. The cones are Eminence Neo 12s, in a sealed cab that is too small to produce any REAL low end. Very similar to the Schro stuff. This amp is louder than I ever NEED to be on stage. It has replaced my 800W Yorkville head and 4x10 cab, as well as my 400W AMP head and Mesa 1516 cab. I will say the AMP/Mesa rig sounds better, but it is three times the size, and not any louder. On most of my gigs, the stage and the room are covered by the amp. The PA on these is typically carrying vocals and keys, maybe a taste of GTR. On the other end, we have a 16 element line array rig, with twelve double 18 subs. On gigs with that rig, of course the stage rig is just for the stage... I am VERY pleased with my little stealth amp. It is a beast

 

Not currently in a band. If I jumped into one for POLITE ROCK MUZAK STYLE, I have a pair of Peavey CS-800s [email protected] 4 OHMS each I could connect to either 1 410HLF, or a pair of 215's or 810's. This rig is completely scalable and can do anything.

Then there is the ARENA RIG. It currently is 6 4PRO's and 6 Fridge cabs. I am currently working on 21" Subs to test 31Hz performance which will either fly or fry. The rig will be then scaled up from this proof of concept into a triple 25U rolling rack with 12 4PRO's / SVP-1600's and whatever is necessary to drive the subs. Quite possibly Crown I-TECH 8000 watt each units.

The end result is hopefully the largest high end arena rig ever constructed.

Why? You are not even currently in a band.

Because, I want to.

BOB

 

I've found this to be true. The wine bar circuit is quite nice in Md. Many patrons love hearing searing guitar licks at volumes that you can talk just below. Our audiences like to talk to us between songs. They are learning about music. They are seeing how we communicate to each other and come back for more. Yes it's not the balls to the walls SVT 2x8x10 and Marshall stack. Did that so I can say it was big fun. Now that I'm a more seasoned player it takes real technique and control to play Manic Depression in a wine bar with huge intensity without the volume. It's sort like country music. It seems easy until you try to play with such discipline all night in that form. I now take a 310 and 1000 watts. Huge clear sound so the band sounds exceptional like a studio cut but live. Edge comes for me in hand attack. A 1x12 would be adequate but not ideal.
Outside gigs I take as much gear as I want but because I'm often with the same folks you get the same control and restraint which comes out to the audience like precision and taste even if we're playing a Deep Purple thing.

 

I'm glad somebody said this! I'm sick and tired of milquetoast rock. Rock is about being on the ragged edge of the abyss!

Good idea of placing rigs in context too. That is something typically lacking in these discussions.

Unfortunately, my rock band has been in a muddling around mode lately and haven't been playing many real shows so I don't have much to add really.

 

You know Bob, I could see an application of that rig in a geophysical seismic survey. You should contract with Exxon.

 

Or USGS...

I understand with that Pacific earthquake last week New Zealand moved 12" closer to Australia...

Maybe I could move it back?

Might just make things worse.

BOB