It's the Music Stand Band??!!

[Gravedigger Dav]

It has to be stage fright. They are hiding behind those stands.

 

[micguy]

I don't like this kind of public shaming on Talkbass

What kind do you like?

 

[bassicmike]

We have two members ( both singers) that sit during performances.

I don't sit when I play but if I know there will be an interruption somewhere in the set, I'll sit.

 

[DJ Bebop]

We have two members ( both singers) that sit during performances.

 

[DJ Bebop]

We have two members ( both singers) that sit during performances.

 

[MoireBass]

Once when I saw King Crimson, one of my colleagues from work was at the same show. On Monday someone asked him about it, Jay said "It was just terrible. Robert Fripp sat on a stool all night and didn't move around at all."
I replied "I thought it was very, very good. And Fripp put 100% of his energy into playing the guitar and none into jumping around."

 

[Hurricane Jimmie]

So Anyway, looks like video monitors sitting on music stands to me.
I think Devo would approve how they've embraced technology.

 

[Altitude]

Counterintuitively I saw the Chick Corea Elektric Band in Austin around 1992, they were touring the "Beneath the Mask" record. The tunes on that record were rather complex even by their standards and just about everyone in the band who was not Chick did use a stand on some.

 

[Hasty]

So Anyway, looks like video monitors sitting on music stands to me.
I think Devo would approve how they've embraced technology.

I think those are music folders holding old school 9x12 sheet music (based on what looks like paper slightly off the edge). If so, that makes me curious to know what they're playing as not many people have the ability to easily print that size without a commercial copier.

 

[BazzaBass]

So maybe a discrete placement of a music stand for one player would be OK, but what is this?
I was checking the Facebook page of a lodge I play at with my duo and where I have played with a band for many years and I see this. What a stage presence. Looks like they have maybe one instrumentalist, probably backing tracks. Plus all those wires? Looks like a mess. Though the lodge has adequate stage lights on the ceiling, they put those floor lights to liven up the show I guess. Their promo group photo shows 5 members. A musician posted a comment "music stands, really"
They are playing a few miles away in week or so, I might check it out.
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Wow! Lets start thread just to troll

 

[LBS-bass]

I think those are music folders holding old school 9x12 sheet music (based on what looks like paper slightly off the edge). If so, that makes me curious to know what they're playing as not many people have the ability to easily print that size without a commercial copier.

I don't care. Just move it down so we can see you. That's literally all that is wrong here.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Jay said "It was just terrible. Robert Fripp sat on a stool all night and didn't move around at all."

Why do you sit down on stage?

Because you can't play guitar standing up. At least I can't. In the semi-pro bands I played in, I stood up uncomfortably. With King Crimson I did about three or four gigs standing up, and said, "This is hopeless, I just can't play this way." Greg Lake said, "You can't sit down; you'll look like a mushroom." I felt it wasn't my job to stand up and look moody. My job was to play, and I couldn't play standing up. I generally find it very difficult to play on stage, and I detest recording. I suppose playing live gigs is the thing I enjoy doing most. Let's put it another way: It's one of the things I dislike the least.

Do you think people see you as being moody by sitting down?

I couldn't care less. The perverse thing is, from the point of view of stage presentation, I suppose it's given me a kind of stage presence that I wouldn't otherwise have had because no one else does it. And that comes back to a certain thing I've always believed, which is: Just be yourself.

Interview with Robert Fripp in Guitar Player (1974) - ETWiki

 

[Thebiggestjerk]

However Jordan Rudess of Dream Theatre uses a tablet on his keyboard.

 

[g-dude]

I don't care. Just move it down so we can see you. That's literally all that is wrong here.

I once got told I needed to raise my stand.

To be fair, the conductor had a point because he wanted to be able to make eye contact with me.

 

[MoireBass]

I think those are music folders holding old school 9x12 sheet music (based on what looks like paper slightly off the edge). If so, that makes me curious to know what they're playing as not many people have the ability to easily print that size without a commercial copier.

Three of them (with the square corners) look like traditional big band 'books', which contained all your charts.

 

[LBS-bass]

I once got told I needed to raise my stand.

To be fair, the conductor had a point because he wanted to be able to make eye contact with me.

It's different in different contexts. If you're an orchestra player, you're not really there to be seen as an individual. That belongs to the conductor. If you're in a small ensemble like this one, you're more on the spot for people who want to see you. They want to see you play, they want to see your hands, they want to see your facial expressions.

There are sections that usually play behind charts - horn sections, in particular, and often they'll be off to the side while the front person is doing the major entertaining. All of this is contextual. There are no big rules beyond the fact that you're there to play a role, and if your role is center stage, you should be seen.

 

[richntiff]

Relax. It's just a group of people showing the world that they are inexperienced. We all started somewhere. Here is the problem with a lot of things - it's no longer acceptable to point out to people where they could improve their stage presence, performance level, etc.

I called them pikers because that is what they are showing to the world. If they want to be taken seriously as professionals, they can present themselves like professionals. It is not hard.

Interesting attempt at a backpedal, but it's a bit late to be trying to put a dress on that pig. Where, in any way, shape, or form did the people in that pic claim to be trying to 'be taken seriously as professionals?' Is it the tip jar/bag? Where's the context? It's ok for you to be a bit embarrassed about piling onto a mean spirited post - just admit it, you had a knee jerk reaction to yet another 'oh god look at these loser wannabes' thread. There is a group on TB that think they are the epitome of professional, doling out their sage advice to the lesser thans. It's cringey.

 

[LBS-bass]

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Why do you sit down on stage?

Because you can't play guitar standing up. At least I can't. In the semi-pro bands I played in, I stood up uncomfortably. With King Crimson I did about three or four gigs standing up, and said, "This is hopeless, I just can't play this way." Greg Lake said, "You can't sit down; you'll look like a mushroom." I felt it wasn't my job to stand up and look moody. My job was to play, and I couldn't play standing up. I generally find it very difficult to play on stage, and I detest recording. I suppose playing live gigs is the thing I enjoy doing most. Let's put it another way: It's one of the things I dislike the least.

Do you think people see you as being moody by sitting down?

I couldn't care less. The perverse thing is, from the point of view of stage presentation, I suppose it's given me a kind of stage presence that I wouldn't otherwise have had because no one else does it. And that comes back to a certain thing I've always believed, which is: Just be yourself.

Interview with Robert Fripp in Guitar Player (1974) - ETWiki

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/good-band-did-everything-wrong.1526098/

 

[LBS-bass]

Interesting attempt at a backpedal, but it's a bit late to be trying to put a dress on that pig. Where, in any way, shape, or form did the people in that pic claim to be trying to 'be taken seriously as professionals?' Is it the tip jar/bag? Where's the context? It's ok for you to be a bit embarrassed about piling onto a mean spirited post - just admit it, you had a knee jerk reaction to yet another 'oh god look at these loser wannabes' thread. There is a group on TB that think they are the epitome of professional, doling out their sage advice to the lesser thans. It's cringey.

Well you sure woke up on the grumpy side of your cornflakes.

They are on a stage. Presumably they are there to be entertainers. If you don't like the fact that this holds you to a standard, fine. But you dragging everyone else down by saying stuff like this is OK is 100% why local bands mostly suck these days. Apparently any standard is too high for some people.

Is this a local jam? Where people of all skill levels sit around a fire and play for their own amusement? Then sure, this is not problematic. Again, context is everything. But when I see musicians positioned like they are I'm assuming this is a performance, not a party. Why is it wrong to expect performers to step up to some reasonable level of situational awareness beyond campfire?

If you are seriously expecting me to apologize for having standards, or for expecting entertainers to - you know - be entertaining, I am sorry but you're never going to see that happen.

No backpedaling needed. I hope this is clear enough.

 

[droo46]

Here's a tip for the gift bag:
Dump the music stands and buy some cheap iPads.

Only if you want to be offering tech support.