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Janky-A Rigs of Doom

#561
Bugeyed Earl said:
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Digging this because it simultaneously answers so many questions -

What ever happened to that little red Jenga block?
Where is the Robert Mapplethorpe book I squirreled away in the apartment somewhere?
Can my hearing and the sanity of those around me really be irreparably harmed by playing my acoustic guitar through a 40-year-old solid state amp?
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Great find @Bugeyed Earl !

mexicanyella said:
Finding your Robert Mapplethorpe book in the utility room of a random Craigslist poster is, like, the universe talking to you. And it's saying something vaguely unsettling.

On another note, I'm starting to see people asking higher prices for jankity Peaveys on St. Louis Craigslist--Bandits, even--with phrases like "classic Peavey" thrown in. I don't think I ONLY like old Peaveys because they've traditionally been cheap to acquire...but by gum if a bunch of cork-sniffers start buying up old Peaveys to cop some tone, I'm going to have to start using early-mid 80s Crate amps.
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Hear here! I'll raise my glass of Ripple to that!
 
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#569
alaskaleftybass said:
Very cool but janky! :thumbsup:
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Oh it's janky! And cheap... I got both cabs for about $100 each, the power amp was about $200 and the BDDI was about $200 so the whole set up was right around $600. Obv it sounds like crap with just the power amp, but man as soon as you turn on that Sansamp it sounds amazing. It was one of those gambles that paid off and I have tons of room to get louder... the cabs are both rated 300w and right now there both only getting about 75w
 
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#570
Jerseydeadhead said:
Oh it's janky! And cheap... I got both cabs for about $100 each, the power amp was about $200 and the BDDI was about $200 so the whole set up was right around $600. Obv it sounds like crap with just the power amp, but man as soon as you turn on that Sansamp it sounds amazing. It was one of those gambles that paid off and I have tons of room to get louder... the cabs are both rated 300w and right now there both only getting about 75w
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Excellent! :thumbsup:
 
#571
This is my home practice rig, even if slightly complicated, it doesn't get much more low budget and janky than this.

I think all parts, excluding the bass costed me around 560$ and including the bass with mods this whole rig runs up on just about 950$ or something in that ball park from new.

Not bad for a pseudo tube/bi-amping sort of rig.

Had to find an alternative after I ruined my organ amp trying to extract it from the actual organ:

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(note that I made some small changes in the signal path since the picture was taken, following is the correct one):

Ibanez Mikro (with a pair of P/J EMG Geezer Butler pickups)>> Boss LS-2 [A+B>>Bypass]>
-LS-2 [Loop A]> EHX Black Finger (run as tube preamp)
-LS-2 [Loop B]> Monarch MFL-22 (flanger)> Joyo Orange Juice> Behringer Ultragain Mic100 (microphone preamp equipped with an EHX 12AX7 preamp tube)
-LS-2 [Output] M-Audio Fast Track (sound interface run on direct monitoring via wall outlet/USB adapter)

The headphones I use is a pair of Sennheiser HD 380 Pro

Loop A loudest and set to a very tuby warm deep tone with a bit of tube overdrive when digging in, Loop B a bit more dialed back and brighter as well as more aggressive with a light overdrive.

Together it sounds really nice actually:

Punchy and raw with a bit hair as well without for that reason getting muddy or loosing definition.

Eventually I plan on getting a Mackie Thump 15 active PA speaker (15"+horn, 500W RMS (1000 peak), Freq response: 32 - 23,000 Hz, 3 band EQ with sweepable mids) to make it possible for me to practice without headphones, as well as the possibility to use it as an emergency rig.

Probably going to put on my Behringer BEQ700 7 band graphic bass equalizer at the end of the chain too, right before the sound interface, as the tone now is just a tad bit harsh, even for my liking, but I am sure it could be corrected by cutting some highs.

Here's a sound test for those interested in how my rig sound, with the sound interface run directly into the DAW via the computer and with no further editing done:

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Edit: And here's another sound test using same setup but with slightly different setting and a Behringer BEQ700, 7 band graphic equalizer, added at the end of the chain right before the sound interface:
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#572
Hey NoiseNinja, that's pretty cool. Listening to your soundclip, I can imagine that in a mix that tone might sound like the bass tone in the first song ("LA Song") from Deconstruction's album back in the 90s...with Dave Navarro and Eric Avery from Jane's Addiction on guitar and bass, respectively. Check out 0:00-6:00 or so of this clip and see if you agree...



I would like to hear that through the powered speaker you mentioned. If you go that route, I hope you'll post another clip.
 
#573
mexicanyella said:
Hey NoiseNinja, that's pretty cool. Listening to your soundclip, I can imagine that in a mix that tone might sound like the bass tone in the first song ("LA Song") from Deconstruction's album back in the 90s...with Dave Navarro and Eric Avery from Jane's Addiction on guitar and bass, respectively. Check out 0:00-6:00 or so of this clip and see if you agree...



I would like to hear that through the powered speaker you mentioned. If you go that route, I hope you'll post another clip.
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Thank you, changed the recording 3 times by now though with slightly different pedal settings, cause I wasn't quite satisfied, and even if the last one has a bit too much flanger, just a tad bit too much, for my liking, it gets close enough to what I am going for to not do it over once again.

I am glad you like it though, I definitely feel like I am on to something and am quite happy with my discovery.

I feel like this could easily be used as an alternative rig with a bit of EQ'ing and a good active PA speaker.

Actually, while I can see what you mean regarding the bass sounding a bit like the one in that track, same type of modulation on the bass and also quite aggressive and punchy once it get started, it is not quite as aggressive and bright as my tone, considerably more bottom and also slightly more modulation.

But it actually comes close to how my real rehearsal and gig rig sounds, which is also slightly less aggressive and with more bottom end than this home practice rig.
 
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#575
Quinn Roberts said:
Started a thread earlier involving "unorthodox" cab/amp combos. Then, someone sent me to this gold mine of a thread. Saw the last post was back in August so I'll add this. Rumble 150 Head into a Peavey KB60, with Korg DT-1, DigiTech BSW, and a Foster Wallace in lineView attachment 2850703 God Bless you all and your jankness! :thumbsup:
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Are you using it as a cab, or are you running the effects send of the rumble into the effects return of the Peavey?
 
#576
pie_man_25 said:
Are you using it as a cab, or are you running the effects send of the rumble into the effects return of the Peavey?
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It's a long... :unsure: embarrassing... story, but the effects are going through the loop on the Rumble. I've got the headphone out of the Rumble going into the input of the Peavey. The power supply in this Rumble got shorted so it's pretty much a really bulky pre-amp. :whistle:
 
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Quinn Roberts said:
It's a long... :unsure: embarrassing... story, but the effects are going through the loop on the Rumble. I've got the headphone out of the Rumble going into the input of the Peavey. The power supply in this Rumble got shorted so it's pretty much a really bulky pre-amp. :whistle:
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That's actually pretty cool :) . Some achieve jankyness, some are born janky, others have jankyness thrust upon them.
 
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Quinn Roberts said:
It's a long... :unsure: embarrassing... story, but the effects are going through the loop on the Rumble. I've got the headphone out of the Rumble going into the input of the Peavey. The power supply in this Rumble got shorted so it's pretty much a really bulky pre-amp. :whistle:
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That just means that you can cut it open, remove the non-working bits and then insert more jank - of course, you could also move it from bulky pre-amp to all-dead, rather than mostly-dead, so perhaps that idea is dangerously janky itself....:chicken:
 
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#579
S.Harrison said:
Alright, I've been viewing all the high-end rigs, the rigs of doom, the mini rigs of doom, the Rigs of the Impending Nuclear Apocolypse, but I haven't had any luck finding budget/basement janky-a$$ rigs of, well, doom. Show me your mis-matched, ugly, inexpensive or oddball rigs, combos etc. In keeping with the theme of the thread, I'll post a crappy cellphone pic of my JARoD, taken in low light in my basement. On the bottom is a Crate BE18 I picked up on the cheap today, with a Behringer BB210 on top of that. Powering it all is a Madison PHAT-210 head (400w, tube/ss, direct out, loop etc) that I got off ebay. For good measure I made sure to include my Carlo Robelli that I paid $190 for at Sam Ash a few years ago and was actually my main gigging bass for awhile. The active soapbars actually sound pretty good and the bass as a whole plays very well (for a sub-$200 bass). Not pictured is the ZOOM 708 I just scored for 20 bux. I gotta say that while not botique (duh), the rig sounds pretty good now that it's got some low end to it. And for the blues/rock band I'm working with along with the, er, "quality" of potential venues nearby I think it'll do quite well.
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when i was in high school my father built me a cab he said was calculated from some manual or another as to be perfect for those speakers ,15 " Radio Shack woofers! it was 4 feet wide ,5 feet tall and 15 inches deep ,covered in naugahyde.
i couldnt haul it anywhere and left it at a drummers house when we broke up! the only amp i had was an old Fender Bandmaster guitar amp ,which i proceeded to burn up! after that i played thru a old Univox 15 watt bass amp i borrowed ,then burnt up too...
 
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T_Bone_TL said:
That just means that you can cut it open, remove the non-working bits and then insert more jank - of course, you could also move it from bulky pre-amp to all-dead, rather than mostly-dead, so perhaps that idea is dangerously janky itself....:chicken:
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I've thought about this, so much so that I have cut it open before. Lead me to seeing that the power supply had nice dime-sized burn in the chip. I'm fairly ignorant electronically though, so aside from ordering a new power supply through eBay and wiring it in I'm not sure how else to approach fixing it. I just ended up getting a Rumble 500 head to run into my cabs I originally used with the 150. Oddly enough though, even with hum and all, I tend to prefer my Rumble 150 into KB 60 setup over the newer 500 into matching cabs. I feel the jankness of both amps adds a special tone, kinda like a nice worn in tube or something.
 

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