just watched the cannibal corpse youtube link each person was individually impressive but none of the parts they play are really complimenting the other it looks like they are locked into themselves and not really interacting with the other sounds. Each part is cool on it's own put does not add to the whole. For example would it not be a more impressive guitar riff if the the drummer and bass player were locked in together and doing something that takes up less room sonically? And then maybe use there parts as fills off of stops or something like that which would make there parts more impressive. When your playing a 100 miles an hour all the time now one takes much notice after a minute or two. But if you are laying down slow groove after slow groove and then take off like that for a fill or part here and there it really gets noticed.
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Jazz musicians are significantly overrated.
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Scorpionldr, this is what you posted before:
"The bunch of times I attended Jazz rehearsals, it sounded opposite to me. A bunch of theory junkies that forgot emotion was a part of music, thought that soloing and improv was more important than the lead sheet, and used a lot of not-grooving groove that sounded way too technical for anyone "realistically mainstream" to enjoy.
In short, it was ok, but mental masturbation to show the professors "look what I can do!""
and honestly, when I went back and listened to the cannibal corpse and all the other clips Tupac posted, your statement was never more true.....to THAT music! The extreme metal that is so popular these days is missing something. it sounds like exercises, or in classical what are called "etudes"...but all of it is missing a vital component: melody.
I mean, what exactly is the point of that cannibal corpse? the song titles are from horror movies? Seems like this music is good for only a few things: Skateboarding, UFC and maybe getting amped up to go weighlift.....other then that, Jazz offers SO much more.
Yeah, I know BP mag just featured the bassist and did a glowing review, but man, that music is music for technical theory junkies, just as you described your jazz students to be. It's all just scales and modes, at a BPM that is too fast to dance to. ***?
"The bunch of times I attended Jazz rehearsals, it sounded opposite to me. A bunch of theory junkies that forgot emotion was a part of music, thought that soloing and improv was more important than the lead sheet, and used a lot of not-grooving groove that sounded way too technical for anyone "realistically mainstream" to enjoy.
In short, it was ok, but mental masturbation to show the professors "look what I can do!""
and honestly, when I went back and listened to the cannibal corpse and all the other clips Tupac posted, your statement was never more true.....to THAT music! The extreme metal that is so popular these days is missing something. it sounds like exercises, or in classical what are called "etudes"...but all of it is missing a vital component: melody.
I mean, what exactly is the point of that cannibal corpse? the song titles are from horror movies? Seems like this music is good for only a few things: Skateboarding, UFC and maybe getting amped up to go weighlift.....other then that, Jazz offers SO much more.
Yeah, I know BP mag just featured the bassist and did a glowing review, but man, that music is music for technical theory junkies, just as you described your jazz students to be. It's all just scales and modes, at a BPM that is too fast to dance to. ***?
To be honest, Cannibal Corpse has lived past their due date. They got signed, and everything since "The Wretched Spawn" to me sounds like they're taking the same riffs and flipping them around, adjusting the tempo, and reselling them again. So I wouldn't consider them a great example.
I will admit, a lot of the tech **** is kinda run-on, but it feels kinda like a classical etude to me (like you've mentioned), which I like. I think the genres outside the ring of pop are trying to generate more interest in doing away with the verse-chorus-verse method of writing. It's not bad, it's not great, but every once in a while I hear something decent. Hence all the interest in electronic.
Jazz just doesn't live up to it's hype for me.
I don't equate genres of music to activities, either.
Personally, to me, I feel like you can only do so much with four strings (guitar ringing to the same sort of analogy) before it comes time to think "does this really sound that good on this instrument?"
Cephalic Carnage. Give them a listen.
Ok I did give them a listen, seemed to be a little more here then the sample of corpse I listened to but like it was mentioned earlier no melodies anywhere to be found. Maybe I am getting too old but there was time when I played everything from Ray Charles to the Dead Kennedys and this just doesn't do it for me although I'm sure each individual is very talented and it obviously has a fan base.
Ok I did give them a listen, seemed to be a little more here then the sample of corpse I listened to but like it was mentioned earlier no melodies anywhere to be found. Maybe I am getting too old but there was time when I played everything from Ray Charles to the Dead Kennedys and this just doesn't do it for me although I'm sure each individual is very talented and it obviously has a fan base.
