oh man, that sucks. he was a truly good musician. and to make it worse I heard the news on mtv.com. thats like hearing your grandma died from the guy that hit your dog the day before.
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John Entwistle!
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I just found this thread while on a golf vacation in Scotland (without a radio or tv) - this is the first I've heard of John's untimely end.
I remember being blown away by his playing on the Live at Leeds album, and how his playing held the sound together. "My Generation" and "Substitute" sounded better than the studio cuts.
Sad time...
I remember being blown away by his playing on the Live at Leeds album, and how his playing held the sound together. "My Generation" and "Substitute" sounded better than the studio cuts.
Sad time...
i was surprised last night about 11 when i was going through the channels. on VH1 they had nothing but WHO videos for a hour and a message under each video explaining how great entwistle was. it was nothing huge, but its nice to know some people see a great musician has passed and not some manufactured one.
I caught some of that VH-1 stuff this morning(Saturday)...
The part that blew me away-
The Who doing "Won't Get Fooled Again" for the 9-11 tribute show.
This is the most recent Entwistle I have heard &, IMO, this is a testament to how good he really was-
First off-
Those of us old enough...some of the players we grew up with & 'idolized' from the '60s/'70s
a)Over time, haven't gotten any better
b)Over time, have gotten worse
(I don't have to name names, right?)
In any event, Entwistle was happenin' back in the '60s & from what I saw from that 9-11 footage...he's still happenin'; in fact, IMO, he's gotten way better over the years.
The guy has obviously kept at his craft & didn't merely rest on his Rock star creds.
Ox was a searcher...
The part that blew me away-
The Who doing "Won't Get Fooled Again" for the 9-11 tribute show.
This is the most recent Entwistle I have heard &, IMO, this is a testament to how good he really was-
First off-
Those of us old enough...some of the players we grew up with & 'idolized' from the '60s/'70s
a)Over time, haven't gotten any better
b)Over time, have gotten worse
(I don't have to name names, right?)
In any event, Entwistle was happenin' back in the '60s & from what I saw from that 9-11 footage...he's still happenin'; in fact, IMO, he's gotten way better over the years.
The guy has obviously kept at his craft & didn't merely rest on his Rock star creds.
Ox was a searcher...
...and here's a blurb from the Quadrophenia booklet/liner notes.
I was listening to it this afternoon & this made me laugh-
"...They were a Mod group. Well, Mods liked them. They weren't exactly Mods, but Mods did like them.
They had a drummer who used to play with his arms waving about in the air like a lunatic. The singer was a tough looking bloke with really good clothes.
...the guitarist was a skinny geezer with a big nose who twirled his arm like a windmill. He wrote some good songs about Mods, but he didn't look like one.
The bass player was a laugh. He never did anything.
Nothing.
...his bass sounded like a bleeding VC10."
I was listening to it this afternoon & this made me laugh-
"...They were a Mod group. Well, Mods liked them. They weren't exactly Mods, but Mods did like them.
They had a drummer who used to play with his arms waving about in the air like a lunatic. The singer was a tough looking bloke with really good clothes.
...the guitarist was a skinny geezer with a big nose who twirled his arm like a windmill. He wrote some good songs about Mods, but he didn't look like one.
The bass player was a laugh. He never did anything.
Nothing.
...his bass sounded like a bleeding VC10."
just thought i should add a word.
fantastic bass player - it's a slightly sadder world knowing he's not about.
fantastic bass player - it's a slightly sadder world knowing he's not about.
Wow,, I never really gave a hoot about The Who,, never even heard their music until today. REVOLUTIONARY rythm section!! Now I realize they pushed the boundaries of rock music into realms that hadn't been realized yet. Heard My Generation and You Better You Bet several times and was very impressed.
RIP John Entwhistle and Keith Moon.
Sorry I didn't respect you sooner!
RIP John Entwhistle and Keith Moon.
Sorry I didn't respect you sooner!
I was watching the "Classic Albums- Who's Next" again, and there's some great live footage with JE playing his custom Explorer-style Alembic , Townshend with a Les Paul, smashing it into the stage at the end of "Won't get fooled again".
it looked like it was from the early 80's or late 70's and the stage looked quite small.
does anyone know if this complete concert is available on video?
it looked like it was from the early 80's or late 70's and the stage looked quite small.
does anyone know if this complete concert is available on video?
It was a great loss to the rock world. Mr Entwistle you will be missed. I can't see another bass player out there having the balls to play the mighty Status Buzzard bass. I'm sure he worked closely with Status over the years, so it must be a big loss to them. The OX was the only man who ever looked cool playing that bass. I remember seeing John Deacon play a warwick one, and it looked stupid, also James Lomenzo couldn't pull it off. MR Entwistle was really one of a kind. I notice a lot of bass players web site's ain't got messages up for him yet. I know Matt Freeman (Rancid) and Billy Sheehan were hugely influenced by the great man.
Adios.
P.S. Someone raised the point of not much TV coverage about the great man. I live in the U.K. and there really ain't been zip in the way of coverage, the media seem to be more interested in will the WHO carry on (i think not). I would love to see a documentry on the man over the next few weeks, so let's keep our fingers crossed.
Adios.
P.S. Someone raised the point of not much TV coverage about the great man. I live in the U.K. and there really ain't been zip in the way of coverage, the media seem to be more interested in will the WHO carry on (i think not). I would love to see a documentry on the man over the next few weeks, so let's keep our fingers crossed.
As far as I know, it's from a special 1978 gig they played at Shepperton studios for the "Kids Are Alright" film, which I think you can only get on DVD now... I've been looking for it on video for a while now myself. Actually, it was Keith Moon's last ever performance with The Who.
I was listening to Tommy when I found out... my sister, of all people, burst in to tell me. I don't think there's much I can add to what everyone else has said... doubtless to say, John will be missed.
It's true what yawnsie said. However, it is not available on DVD. As a fanatic of the Who, I have researched a lot on this piece of material and it is only available on video. They even stopped making the video version for some reason. The DVD is really over-due.
I recommend you check out the soundtrack of the movie, "The Kids are Allright". I have it and it's amazing. The last track (Won't Get Fooled Again) is indeed the last performance of the original members of the Who playing together. Keith Moon's last concert. It is a great CD to own.
If you want more Who stuff, the new DVD "Live at Royal Albert Hall" features a lot of John Entwistle and his playing is breathtaking. I also own the "Maximum Who" and "Who's Next" DVDs. They are both magical in their own way.
I'm planning on getting the September 11th special from MSG DVD just to own Entwistle's last performance on record with the Who. I listened to the songs and, again, he shines.
I saw that myself.
One thing that stands out in my head with him was when I saw live footage of him a few years back. He was just going mad. It was then and there that I thought to myself that this guy was really good. Better than I ever thought he was.
The 9-11 show only reiterated that in my mind about him.
Just so you know, that was NOT his last performance with The Who. There were 3 in January and 2 in February. Here's a link to the tour website...
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I'm very much hoping that we'll get to see some of these on DVD, too.
Six months ago (?) I got a VHS of "Kids Are Alright" from CDNow. FWIW, I just did a search and did not find the movie on DVD or VHS at CDNow... but it's gotta be available somewhere.
Anyway, both the movie and the soundtrack CD are must-haves for Who fans. I especially recommend the OST to Entwistle fans because of one track, a live version of Entwistle's "My Wife", which does not appear in the film. The special bonus about this track is that you can pan left (as you can with Live at Leeds) to focus in on Entwistle's magnificent plectrum style bass lines. Keep in mind that he sings the lead vocal too. Freakin' unbelievable.
Why are we still looking at Lonnie Plaxico???
Sureley there should be a pic of The Ox there by now????
Sureley there should be a pic of The Ox there by now????
Originally posted by Paul A
Why are we still looking at Lonnie Plaxico???
Sureley there should be a pic of The Ox there by now????
Damn Skippy!!!
>>>.S. Someone raised the point of not much TV coverage about the great man. I live in the U.K. and there really ain't been zip in the way of coverage, the media seem to be more interested in will the WHO carry on (i think not). I would love to see a documentry on the man over the next few weeks, so let's keep our fingers crossed.<<<
FWIW, I wrote a small article for the Independent on Sunday (UK national newspaper for those of you abroad) - I was contacted by them to give a bassist's perspective. They editted it pretty heavily to fit it in with another article that they had already, but it's there... I'll post the 'proper' version here once I've been paid and they can't do me for breach of copyright...
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As for the man himself - a great loss to the bass world, a huge influence, pioneer and innovator on the instrument, constantly persuing his ultimate tone by working with bass, amp and string manufacturers, wrote some fantastic lines, some great songs and is responsible for thousands of people taking up the instrument. RIP Ox...
cheers
Steve
www.steve-lawson.co.uk
FWIW, I wrote a small article for the Independent on Sunday (UK national newspaper for those of you abroad) - I was contacted by them to give a bassist's perspective. They editted it pretty heavily to fit it in with another article that they had already, but it's there... I'll post the 'proper' version here once I've been paid and they can't do me for breach of copyright...
)As for the man himself - a great loss to the bass world, a huge influence, pioneer and innovator on the instrument, constantly persuing his ultimate tone by working with bass, amp and string manufacturers, wrote some fantastic lines, some great songs and is responsible for thousands of people taking up the instrument. RIP Ox...
cheers
Steve
www.steve-lawson.co.uk
