I posted this on another thread but this proves he was using flats up til atleast 1973. I honestly think he never had rounds on his jazz while in zep...
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John Paul Jones fan club?
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I posted this on another thread but this proves he was using flats up til atleast 1973. I honestly think he never had rounds on his jazz while in zep...
You would be correct on that. The Jazz sported flats always in his Zeppelin days.
I don't care what anyone else says about it.
The handsome bastard doesn't look a year past 50! That's just good clean Rock and Roll Living.
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Interesting. I've never noticed this song was played lower live. I guess I've never tried playing along with a live version.
So JPJ's fretless P is tuned DGCF?
I also agree with this, despite what JPJ himself has said in past interviews; at least on the albums. It sure sounds like rounds during some bootlegs I've listened to.
Maybe flats for the albums, and he started using rounds live, later on?
And so the JPJ string debate continues forever...
I can say yes with as much confidence as possible without actually having been his bass tech on tour. Tuning the whole thing down a whole step allows one to play it just like the version on PG without thinking about it, or compromising the line in any way.
Again, without being his actual tech to be able to say "I was there, and......", my belief is pre-1977 tour, anytime you heard rounds it was his single coil PBass, even live. His jazz, Fretless P, and that funky five string were all strung w/ flats. In 77 he left the Jazz at home, and had an Alembic 4, a Bec Var 8, both with rounds, his Fretless p with flats.
Oh, and he also had some elec. upright in 75 & 77, strung with whatever.
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^^ I completely agree with everything here. Do you think he used the jazz on presence? The more I listen to it, the more I think he did.
He certainly gigged the '54 Precision (strung with Roto 66 rounds) pretty extensively in the early days... it comes through really nice on this BBC gem:
Somewhere on YouTube, there's a clip from an early 70s Australian show where you see him grinding out Rock and Roll on it.
Put me on the list. What is and What Should Never Be is a clinic. As is all of Zep II. He was endlessly creative in Zep and never stopped pushing as a solo artist either.
To be honest, I probably listen to Presence the least of all their albums... just assumed it was the Alembic.
One thing I'm quite certain of, is that it's Jazz + flats on In Through the Out Door.
Yes! Zep II is the holy-frickin-grail of classic rock bass prowess.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear, when I was talking about him using flats, I meant on his Jazz and/or other basses, I always thought his '52 always had rounds on it.
And it was a '52 Precision btw. In 1954 the Precision received the cutaways and JPJ's Precision is a slab body.
And that song is a lot easier to play than The Lemon Song
The Bruce Becvar 8-string was used on Achilles & Nobody's Fault. From what I've read the Jazz was used on the rest of the songs.
And I've never read anything about what bass was used on In Through the Out Door, but I always assumed it was the Alembic as his Jazz was "unreliable and rattling a lot"
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Sorry if I wasn't clear, when I was talking about him using flats, I meant on his Jazz and/or other basses, I always thought his '52 always had rounds on it.
And it was a '52 Precision btw. In 1954 the Precision received the cutaways and JPJ's Precision is a slab body.
And that song is a lot easier to play than The Lemon Song
The Bruce Becvar 8-string was used on Achilles & Nobody's Fault. From what I've read the Jazz was used on the rest of the songs.
And I've never read anything about what bass was used on In Through the Out Door, but I always assumed it was the Alembic as his Jazz was "unreliable and rattling a lot"
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I stand corrected.
Now, Sasqu, I want to tell you something... JPJ kicks ass on Presence. I LOVE IT! I love Progressive Zepp
they won't show the bassist much
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This is cool. Early mix of In the Evening form the Zep remasters. The bass is WAY more prominent here, and as usual, JPJ just plays some tasty licks. Much more going on than apparent on the original album release.
Ugh....wish I had three grand just lying around.......
I didn't like the first version of his sig bass, but this one is sweet, particularly the 3TSB.
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I didn't like the first version of his sig bass, but this one is sweet, particularly the 3TSB.
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Well... had a bit of a Talkbass hiatus.
Can't believe this thread's been around four years now! I remember it clearly... I was skipping classes one day as a college freshman, and fell down the YouTube isolated bass track rabbit hole while pretending to study for midterms, and I started thinking to myself... damn, JPJ really is a friggin' beast... I wonder what Talkbass thinks. And 23 pages of obscure Zep videos and 100+ members later, here we all are.
I'm hoping to do a comprehensive membership update post in the near future.
Can't believe this thread's been around four years now! I remember it clearly... I was skipping classes one day as a college freshman, and fell down the YouTube isolated bass track rabbit hole while pretending to study for midterms, and I started thinking to myself... damn, JPJ really is a friggin' beast... I wonder what Talkbass thinks. And 23 pages of obscure Zep videos and 100+ members later, here we all are.
I'm hoping to do a comprehensive membership update post in the near future.
