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Kanye West is a douche
- Thread starter Dave Grossman
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It may be, but the blanket is covering most of the samples. There are always exceptions, but unfortunately they are the minority.
I think West's album is refreshing for hip-hop music. Sure, the use of the samples as a bed for his rapping may not be of your taste, but it's a helluva lot better than 99% of the rap music that's being pushed as hip-hop music. It's probably the best hip-hop album I've heard since The Root's Tipping Point.
I think the use of samples are absolutely necessary. It's helped me find a lot of really great jazz, blues, funk and soul artists I probably wouldn't have come across without hearing a section on repeat in something like Kayne's albums, Talib Kweli's albums, Mos Def's albums.
A lot of kids are growing up with a complete lack of music history that pre-dates Green Day. At the very least, Kayne takes it back to the early to mid-70's with many of the samples.
And for everyone who thinks Kayne is a cry baby....WHAT ABOUT AXL ROSE?
'Nuff said.
I think the use of samples are absolutely necessary. It's helped me find a lot of really great jazz, blues, funk and soul artists I probably wouldn't have come across without hearing a section on repeat in something like Kayne's albums, Talib Kweli's albums, Mos Def's albums.
A lot of kids are growing up with a complete lack of music history that pre-dates Green Day. At the very least, Kayne takes it back to the early to mid-70's with many of the samples.
And for everyone who thinks Kayne is a cry baby....WHAT ABOUT AXL ROSE?
'Nuff said.
Good post. My introduction to music started with a neighbor introducting me to jazz, blues and funk so I'm not in the same boat as most people my age, but I certainly understand this process. While I hate that Kanye sampled Curtis Mayfield's "Move On Up", the idea that people my age (30) and younger will use it as a springboard to explore the source material makes me happy.
That said, I don't like Kanye West as a person, and I hated Axl Rose too. . .
According to you, though I can see how a superficial knowledge of hip-hop would lead people to believe that.
I seriously doubt that most people could listen to a song from, say A Tribe Called Quest and immediately recognize all of the samples being used.
And they are far from being the exception. To me, people like DJ Shadow, Chief XCel, Al Shaheed, Babu, Q-Bert, The Dust Brothers etc ARE creating new music from fragments of the past.
But of course, that's the point of divide in any rational debate on the matter.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then, because I don't hear any new melody. So he shifted the chord progression to the relative minor, whatever. It doesn't strike me as particularly creative. This was done much better by the Neptunes with their "Sympathy for the Devil" remix.I am, however, a fan of the "Klondike" line
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You thought South Park made a parody of him will make him think twice before he act. Nope, not gonna happen. Even the president think he's a jackass.
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The best part of this clip is when Leno brings up West's mom - not in the "yo mama" way, but in the "I hope you feel like ****" way. The look on Kanye's face made me say "oh snap, son". I now love Jay Leno slightly more than I did before.
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