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Kanye West

You consider that hearing:
f@#k that s#!t repeatedly, followed by f@#k that b!#ch, and repeated use of the "N" word
to be on the same "offensive" level as those songs?
Come on.

You obviously haven't heard the uncensored versions of some of the songs he mentioned. I wouldn't want my daughter hearing any of them. Wouldn't want her hearing The Door's "The End" either.

None of that has to do with rap. Just inconsiderate people playing their much too loud. I've got hundreds of rap albums. Not one comes close to being as offensive as some of the lyrics on your average death metal album.
 
You obviously haven't heard the uncensored versions of some of the songs he mentioned. I wouldn't want my daughter hearing any of them. Wouldn't want her hearing The Door's "The End" either.
You can try to defend it all you want, but none of those songs are as offensive as f@#k that s#!t repeated over and over, and the "N" word.
The "N" word; a word so offensive that it can't even be spoken or typed. Get real.


None of that has to do with rap. Just inconsiderate people playing their much too loud. I've got hundreds of rap albums. Not one comes close to being as offensive as some of the lyrics on your average death metal album.
How could it not have anything to with rap... it was rap. And it was inconsiderate.
 
You can try to defend it all you want, but none of those songs are as offensive as f@#k that s#!t repeated over and over, and the "N" word.
The "N" word; a word so offensive that it can't even be spoken or typed. Get real.



How could it not have anything to with rap... it was rap. And it was inconsiderate.

I think you should work on understanding how the black community uses the "N word". They took ownership of it in order to defeat the negative aspect.
 
What some hip-hop opponents here might not be aware of is that there are many people within the hip-hop community who feel just as antagonistic regarding certain strains of rap as they do. I'm sure some of you have seen the Chris Rock (an ardent supporter of hip-hop) routine on rap ("it's hard to defend this ****"). Hip-hop music is not just one thing - it can be taken in any number of directions - but it has suffered (in the eyes of many) greatly as a result of its own popularity. As soon as major labels realised in the early 1990s how much money could be made from rap, the style became streamlined and packaged for suburban consumption. All that post-N.W.A. talk about gangstas and b*****s (okay, well not all of it - but probably most)? That wasn't aimed at inner-city black kids, it was being made for ghetto fantasy loving suburban white kids (the majority of people who were consuming rap at the beginning of the 90s). In other words, it wasn't the black kids making stars out of rappers - it was the white kids. A parallel can be drawn between what happened with disco in the 70s and what happened to rap in the 90s. When disco began in the early 70s it was, for all intents and purposes, "underground" - finding favour mainly amongst predominantly gay party-goers. It was only once the "straight clubs" latched onto the sound that it became a record-marketer's dream. Suddenly every record label was wanting a piece of the cake and before you knew it even the most staunch rock 'n' rollers were jumping on the band wagon. What was once a style of music being made with at least some degree of artistic integrity became cookie-cutter music for the masses. Exactly the same thing has happened with rap. Of course, disco was subjected to the same kind of negativity as rap has been and, I would guess, mainly by the same kinds of people: folks who were looking only at the post-streamline product rather than the roots and what had become the "underground" variety of the genre.
 
I personally dont give a rats ass who listens to what, I just want them to have a little respect for others and turn the sh*t down in public. I dont drive by your house or park next to you with a thousand watts blasting and shaking your windows. If you want to call someone shouting about N*gers and Ho's to an electronic drum machine music........hell, knock yourself out.

But how about as a "hiphop" community you'all turn it down a couple notches
 
I personally dont give a rats ass who listens to what, I just want them to have a little respect for others and turn the sh*t down in public. I dont drive by your house or park next to you with a thousand watts blasting and shaking your windows. If you want to call someone shouting about N*gers and Ho's to an electronic drum machine music........hell, knock yourself out.

But how about as a "hiphop" community you'all turn it down a couple notches

I'm cool with stereos pumping. What gets me is kids attempting to blast tunes out on tinny little mobile phone speakers - what is that all about?
 
But how about as a "hiphop" community you'all turn it down a couple notches

Playing music too loudly has nothing to do with with rap/hip hop. It's obnoxious people. Obnoxious people have been blasting punk, rock, and metal for far more years in their cars and in the clubs. Now go and repeat the same request five times to turn in down in all of those genre threads ;)