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Kiesel Aries A2
- Thread starter MultiScaleMale
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Well to be fair, Dunlop straplocks will cost you $20 so you're basically paying them $10 to install them.
That's all I got
$50 to leave off the truss rod cover? Yeaaah. That's like buying a car and them saying 'the tires come inflated, but for $50 we will deflate them for you'.
And that's the hardest thing with anything. How many times have we stopped liking a band or artist once we found out they were kinda terrible people? It's hard for me to support a great artisan who's not a very nice person. I too don't like Jeff Kiesel's online persona, but Icons are nice.
songwriter21
I have an obsession for wood. The musical kind.
And yet, again, only 19mm spacing. There are tons who like 18 and 17, so thanks, Keisel, for alienating a ton of players like me.
You can buy Straplok buttons for $10 a pair as a consumer. Surely Kiesel is getting bulk pricing, then offer either just buttons or buttons plus strap ends. They're going to install strap buttons anyway, so why the hell is it a $10 additional charge on top of an already inflated cost to the company? It's just gouging.Well to be fair, Dunlop straplocks will cost you $20 so you're basically paying them $10 to install them.
That's all I got
$50 to leave off the truss rod cover? Yeaaah. That's like buying a car and them saying 'the tires come inflated, but for $50 we will deflate them for you'.
When I looked at the Bass pages, ALL the 5-strings are now 19mm. I used to think of the Icon and Vanquish as possibilities for me, when they were listed at 16.25mm and 17mm, respectively. I'm thinking of going all in on the $5k 6-string Dingwall-buster now...
I missed that. All Kiesel 5-strings are 19mm spacing now? Guess I too won't GAS for them any more (that plus my distaste for Jeff Kiesel's online persona seal that deal for me). My 17mm spaced LTDs are PERFECT for me. 16.5mm is too narrow (my fingers feel cramped on a Soundgear), 19mm (I used to have a Carvin SB5000 with 19mm spacing) is too wide for me, I've never tried 18mm.
Still, credit where credit's due- Jeff Kiesel is a truly skilled finish artist. Basses that he's personally done finish work on look absolutely phenomenal.
Still, credit where credit's due- Jeff Kiesel is a truly skilled finish artist. Basses that he's personally done finish work on look absolutely phenomenal.
songwriter21
I have an obsession for wood. The musical kind.
Yup, my 17mm Schecter Stiletto Studios, too, are scarily good. With Schaller bridges I installed, they're as good, if not better than a few Spector Euros I've owned. Sad to say, I won't do Keisel anytime soon, although if I still have a killer used Carvin LB75A.
Back mounted and upwards tilted jacks are super handy actually, harder to pull out by stepping on a cable, tuck up around the strap nicely. Ive had a few ormsbys that used a similar position, it works well
No truss rod cover is an upcharge because it requires someone to manually interrupt CNC processes so it doesnt get drilled out, skip it along, restart procedures. Its a really easy part of the whole process to miss, it gets drilled, at which point then they have to rebuild your instrument. Its not a good value, but its pretty understandable why they charge to do it, partially to discourage and also to cover for a worker not doing other tasks to watch a cnc run. And the odd rebuild if it gets missed.
Yeah that was the point of omitting them. I dont disagree with the comment as a whole, that one line is just an objectively funny thing, to say something is a copy except for basically its entire physical design.
Coke is just like Orange juice except for the Taste and Texture
Coke is just like Orange juice except for the Taste and Texture
I don't hate it, but I'm not really a fan of the way Kiesel carves the forearm carve so aggressively. It just makes the overall look a bit wonky for me.
Honestly, to me it feels like a Dingwall copy with a different headstock and that Kiesel aggressive forearm carve. I really don't see any other differences that matter. That being said, I'm just not a fan of Jeff. He doesn't "come across as a douche", he IS a douche. And I'm just not interested in spending that kind of money to support someone like that.
And having read a TON of stuff about their customer service, I'd rather go with Sheldon.
But, either way, both are out of my price range, so none of it mattes to me anyways. That's why I just built my own.
Honestly, to me it feels like a Dingwall copy with a different headstock and that Kiesel aggressive forearm carve. I really don't see any other differences that matter. That being said, I'm just not a fan of Jeff. He doesn't "come across as a douche", he IS a douche. And I'm just not interested in spending that kind of money to support someone like that.
And having read a TON of stuff about their customer service, I'd rather go with Sheldon.
But, either way, both are out of my price range, so none of it mattes to me anyways. That's why I just built my own.
At that point you’re just quoting @RichSnyder out of context though, so at best it’s a contrivance.
Maybe Im coming off as aggressive, but it was just a silly joke, not trying to make an argument lads.
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It’s all good. I might have taken it differently than intended. Communication exclusively via written words can often miss the intent.
