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Would some bright flats like Chromes do the trick, or would you miss the round feel and snap?
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King Koa - Now With Nordy's!
- Thread starter RocketMusic
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Queen Laurel is my favorite so far! 10 Rocket Music Points to Todd!
It feels a little strange, though. I don't know why I usually think of my basses as dudes, but I do... I mean, cars, boats, etc. are usually "she's", why wouldn't basses be the same way?
And I'm pretty sure me and Jerry doing anything like Todd's gutter mind came up with would be the textbook definition of "NOT hot". Deduct 10 Rocket Music Points from Todd.
It's because Bass is a burly and manly instrument. The tone supports everything else in the band.
I tend to think of female names as applying to the 6-stringers (Guitars that is). Probably linked to BB King's "Lucille".
A question comes to mind as I've watched the exchanges here. What is the assignable frequency range for Gank & Snarl. As Bill said they are opposite sides of the same coin. Now we just need a knob.
And Greg, is there anything that a new Berg. cab doesn't improve?
Okay I'm caught up now
- Jan 20, 2003
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My bass journey went as follows.
Fender squier jazz bass - still have it. Gave it to the kids.
Pedulla rapture j-2 5 string. Actually hated it, but my tastes were developing, and it served as the best springboard for growth.
Peavey Cirrus maple 4. This was my holy frail. I could pull off wooden techniques with ease due to.the seaboard resting directly on the body. This bass had an ash body and I could neeeever get any umph down low. It killed me. However, I loved the bass so much, I happily sold.the pedulla that I never played and got a...
Peavey Cirrus 5 quilt top tiger eye. This bass was it for me. It shaped my custom journey a lot. Mahogany body sounded zoo much richer than the ash. Ebony fingerboard sounded so much better than the rosewood. I even submitted video footage to try and get endorsed with Peavey..they declined. To which they will regret one day.
These basses were my main basses, however, I wanted a custom bass. During my sophomore year of college I came across Benavente basses. I came into some money, and I had Chris build me a bass based off of a Cirrus clone. Buckeye top. Mahogany body. Ebony board. Blue LEDs. The whole nine.
Benavente single cut A 4string enters the picture. I was in heaven. And they endorsed me. A year later, Chris offered to build me a 5string bass. Same specs as the 4 string with The exception of a maple top and zebrawood stringers in the neck in place of the walnut that was in the 4 string.
My thought process was the walnut/zebrawood would round out and mellow out the maple, ebony and bright top woods...which I later learned on neck-through bases doesn't make much difference, but that's a whole different thing.
All the while my ear and playing were growing, and 35 scale length basses were too long for me with regard to some songs I was writing. I physically couldn't play my parts. So I did what I thought I'd never do... I sold my custom 4 string to have another one built. This new bass however was also to be the bass used for the Balancing Act recording project featuring myself and another bassist, Matt Henninger.
This bass was 34 inches. Mahogany body camphor burl top and ebony board. This bass sounded great, however something was lacking. Mind you if you're still reading, this is over the course of the past nine years. I had the pickups switched out for jazz pickups, and discovered I was experiencing phase cancellation. So that's yet another issue and topic.
I had to sell the benavente 5 string to fund the album, so I was down to one bass for some years. Then I realized I was maturing. I wanted a jazz bass clone for the sake of professionalism. I didn't want the attention of an exotic instrument and all that goes along with it, so I had a low end jazz built..which are still built by Chris, and had it built set neck with a sculptued heel up high. Up to this point all of the basses I had built have been 24 frets with the exception of the fender and pedulla. This bass came to me in a dream. Birdseye wedge neck, black limb body, ebony board, curly holly top. I love this bass. Love it. And I sold it. But not why you think.
It had the sound and liability and everything I could want.
I wound up purchasing an old 1979 pbass with a j routed in the bridge. Oh how I missed a 20 fret instrument! And I had no idea. I realized that over the ears, I never used the upper range except for studio work, and solo bass looping. At this point, I was also conceptualizing my next bass evolution and realized that I needed to thin the herd.
Consequently, I'd can never sell the Balancing Act bass, even though i'll probably never play it again save a studio session. And it didn't make sense to sell the pbass, so I had to sell the holly top jazz to have a new 21 fret low end built with the same specs as the last one. A couple of tweak including NO top, just a black limb body, and a maple board instead of ebony. The pbass grew on me that much.
Tl;dr Greg doesn't have to sell king koa. It's his first real custom job and I respect the attachment he has to it. However, Greg, it may never be the bass you want. If you did sell it like I wound up selling my holly bass, based off of the sale amount, I rented that bass for $30 a month considering I owned it for a year. In those terms, it was the best $30 a month I could spend to discover what I was really looking for.
So yeah. Buy a new bass. I did. And I'm sure i'll love it. and you will too. I hope I'm at the end. A slamming jazz, an old p, and eventually a fretless.
I wrote all of this because Greg has been wracking his brain looking for something that may not be there. I thought my story may help understand that for some of us, GAS has a real purpose, and is not an addiction.
Fender squier jazz bass - still have it. Gave it to the kids.
Pedulla rapture j-2 5 string. Actually hated it, but my tastes were developing, and it served as the best springboard for growth.
Peavey Cirrus maple 4. This was my holy frail. I could pull off wooden techniques with ease due to.the seaboard resting directly on the body. This bass had an ash body and I could neeeever get any umph down low. It killed me. However, I loved the bass so much, I happily sold.the pedulla that I never played and got a...
Peavey Cirrus 5 quilt top tiger eye. This bass was it for me. It shaped my custom journey a lot. Mahogany body sounded zoo much richer than the ash. Ebony fingerboard sounded so much better than the rosewood. I even submitted video footage to try and get endorsed with Peavey..they declined. To which they will regret one day.
These basses were my main basses, however, I wanted a custom bass. During my sophomore year of college I came across Benavente basses. I came into some money, and I had Chris build me a bass based off of a Cirrus clone. Buckeye top. Mahogany body. Ebony board. Blue LEDs. The whole nine.
Benavente single cut A 4string enters the picture. I was in heaven. And they endorsed me. A year later, Chris offered to build me a 5string bass. Same specs as the 4 string with The exception of a maple top and zebrawood stringers in the neck in place of the walnut that was in the 4 string.
My thought process was the walnut/zebrawood would round out and mellow out the maple, ebony and bright top woods...which I later learned on neck-through bases doesn't make much difference, but that's a whole different thing.
All the while my ear and playing were growing, and 35 scale length basses were too long for me with regard to some songs I was writing. I physically couldn't play my parts. So I did what I thought I'd never do... I sold my custom 4 string to have another one built. This new bass however was also to be the bass used for the Balancing Act recording project featuring myself and another bassist, Matt Henninger.
This bass was 34 inches. Mahogany body camphor burl top and ebony board. This bass sounded great, however something was lacking. Mind you if you're still reading, this is over the course of the past nine years. I had the pickups switched out for jazz pickups, and discovered I was experiencing phase cancellation. So that's yet another issue and topic.
I had to sell the benavente 5 string to fund the album, so I was down to one bass for some years. Then I realized I was maturing. I wanted a jazz bass clone for the sake of professionalism. I didn't want the attention of an exotic instrument and all that goes along with it, so I had a low end jazz built..which are still built by Chris, and had it built set neck with a sculptued heel up high. Up to this point all of the basses I had built have been 24 frets with the exception of the fender and pedulla. This bass came to me in a dream. Birdseye wedge neck, black limb body, ebony board, curly holly top. I love this bass. Love it. And I sold it. But not why you think.
It had the sound and liability and everything I could want.
I wound up purchasing an old 1979 pbass with a j routed in the bridge. Oh how I missed a 20 fret instrument! And I had no idea. I realized that over the ears, I never used the upper range except for studio work, and solo bass looping. At this point, I was also conceptualizing my next bass evolution and realized that I needed to thin the herd.
Consequently, I'd can never sell the Balancing Act bass, even though i'll probably never play it again save a studio session. And it didn't make sense to sell the pbass, so I had to sell the holly top jazz to have a new 21 fret low end built with the same specs as the last one. A couple of tweak including NO top, just a black limb body, and a maple board instead of ebony. The pbass grew on me that much.
Tl;dr Greg doesn't have to sell king koa. It's his first real custom job and I respect the attachment he has to it. However, Greg, it may never be the bass you want. If you did sell it like I wound up selling my holly bass, based off of the sale amount, I rented that bass for $30 a month considering I owned it for a year. In those terms, it was the best $30 a month I could spend to discover what I was really looking for.
So yeah. Buy a new bass. I did. And I'm sure i'll love it. and you will too. I hope I'm at the end. A slamming jazz, an old p, and eventually a fretless.
I wrote all of this because Greg has been wracking his brain looking for something that may not be there. I thought my story may help understand that for some of us, GAS has a real purpose, and is not an addiction.
LilRay
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- Dec 27, 2007
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Step 1. Take both Genz and Berg cabs on your upcoming gig.
Step 2. Pick a winner of cab shootout.
Step 3. Give a TB'er discount to the loser.
God Bless, Ray
Step 2. Pick a winner of cab shootout.
Step 3. Give a TB'er discount to the loser.
God Bless, Ray
I'm already a step ahead of you, Ray... the UBER cabs really hate my bass for some reason, and the Berg cabs seem to love it. None of which I can explain... I played like 10 different basses through the UBER stack yesterday, and they all sounded fantastic. Roscoes, Suhrs, Warwicks... then I plug in the King, and it sounds like complete crap.
The Berg AE-212 is sounding righteous, though, so I think I'm through blaming the bass. And I don't really blame the cabs, either. UBER + the King is just a bad combination.
So I've got an UBER Quad cabinet that I've put some mild scratches on the top from moving my rig on and off of it. That'll go for a "used/blem" price. The UBER 115 has been sitting under the Quad not taking any wear, so that'll still be at the "new" price...
Now I've got to decide what my new cab solution will be. The Berg AE-212 is obviously a contender. I'm also gonna try the Berg 410's (AE-410, HS-410). I generally prefer 10's, but they might not have the necessary a$$ like the AE-212 has... we'll see. I need lessons to end so I can do some loud testing...
The Berg AE-212 is sounding righteous, though, so I think I'm through blaming the bass. And I don't really blame the cabs, either. UBER + the King is just a bad combination.
So I've got an UBER Quad cabinet that I've put some mild scratches on the top from moving my rig on and off of it. That'll go for a "used/blem" price. The UBER 115 has been sitting under the Quad not taking any wear, so that'll still be at the "new" price...
Now I've got to decide what my new cab solution will be. The Berg AE-212 is obviously a contender. I'm also gonna try the Berg 410's (AE-410, HS-410). I generally prefer 10's, but they might not have the necessary a$$ like the AE-212 has... we'll see. I need lessons to end so I can do some loud testing...
By the way, Cameron - thanks for your last post! I've got to watch you go through most of those basses, but I learned a little more about your reasoning today. Very useful info!
Greg, we just want to thank you for SINGLE HANDEDLY keeping Roscoe in business...I guess we'll see the work order for Queen Laurel Monday?
Very interesting read Cameron, all round, I just wanted to point out though, that those saying Greg should sell the King are just giving him crap, you know, kidding around, I doubt anyone ment it as a serious suggestion(at least I certainly did not).
You were the first one I crossed off the list of possible future buyers, Bill!! 
Just kidding, of course. I knew you were all kidding... sort of
Just kidding, of course. I knew you were all kidding... sort of
LilRay
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RocketMusic said:Gard - when I say "FU", please know that it comes from love. Never hate, always love...
What was it you said a few days ago about being a gear ho?
God Bless, Ray
Wow!
This is getting serious! I find it hard to believe that you're having difficulty getting your sound out of the very same bass that I've heard awesome clips from in both your live and home studio recordings.
That bass sounded awesome for 2 years with the Audere pre and Barden P/U's. Just put the Audere pre back in and order the new Roscoe Jazz with the different body wood (alder or SC) and the Bart/Bart combo. Then you have 2 killer 5 string fretted Roscoe's with different tones.
There you go. Simple as that!
Now if I can just make my mind up between the Rosoce Barts and Bart CB's!
This is getting serious! I find it hard to believe that you're having difficulty getting your sound out of the very same bass that I've heard awesome clips from in both your live and home studio recordings.
That bass sounded awesome for 2 years with the Audere pre and Barden P/U's. Just put the Audere pre back in and order the new Roscoe Jazz with the different body wood (alder or SC) and the Bart/Bart combo. Then you have 2 killer 5 string fretted Roscoe's with different tones.
There you go. Simple as that!
Now if I can just make my mind up between the Rosoce Barts and Bart CB's!
Nah, I think all is well, Joe. And I've developed a theory... all I can imagine is that one of the crossover points in the UBER Quad cab is located right where my bass's low end punch is located. The cab just seems to eat my punch right up...
I have absolutely no technical basis for that assertion, just a theory. But it's the only way I can explain why so many other basses sound great through that cab, but not mine...
Anyway, my bass is killing through the AE-212. I just have to decide if one AE-212 is enough for my needs. Two of them is probably overkill, but I'm afraid one might not be enough. I just need to experiment...
I have absolutely no technical basis for that assertion, just a theory. But it's the only way I can explain why so many other basses sound great through that cab, but not mine...
Anyway, my bass is killing through the AE-212. I just have to decide if one AE-212 is enough for my needs. Two of them is probably overkill, but I'm afraid one might not be enough. I just need to experiment...
Have you tried the Quad on top of an Uber 212 or 410? I don't think one AE 212 will do it for you, how about the NV412 (that was what I was going for before the Quad)?
Mark
Mark
LilRay
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Greg plays big booty grooves and he needs the booty to make them big Blacksburg booties move
....er something
God Bless, Ray
....er something
God Bless, Ray
Yeah. I just get a kick out of watching Greg try on different shoes and then ask Gard if they make his butt look fat.
Cameron,
We're all just clowning around in these forums while working on our basses a little.
BTW, Greg,
I'm with Mark on the cabinets. Given what you're used to, one 212 ain't gonna cut it. Maybe go for the 412.
As for me. the 112 works great in most cases.
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I didn't mean to cause such a stir I just got excited when I started thinking about greg building a new bass.I had a few feelings of nostalgia and got a little carried away. it's obvious that you guys truly support greg and love your roscoe basses. and on top of it all I'm a huge gear nerd so any reason the flex that muscle is good enough for me.
