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Klos Basses-Carbon necks

#141
klattman said:
Source is an email from them in May saying the bass necks were slow going, but they managed to get a bunch of guitar necks out and are still working on it. That email said a couple more months still.
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So, not a problem, but a delay. Got it.

Parzival said:
I don't know, maybe wait until you know you can produce it before you start selling it to folks. What do you think?
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Not an uncommon practice across many industries. They’re already producing necks for their own instruments and decided to branch out. They also offered a lower deposit and overall price if you locked in early enough. That’s a good incentive and measure to see just how much interest you’re going to have based on orders. Give them a chance to finish this out and let’s not throw out baseless speculation.
 
#143
fauxtoe said:
Also, this page has been thoroughly updated and what looks like actual photos of the neck - F-Series Bass Neck - Upgrade your Fender® with Carbon Fiber
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They do look pretty good but the 5 strings necks are shown with fret up to 22 while the picture shows a 24 fret neck

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(works for me as I much prefer a 24 frets neck)

Might get one of those down the line and find a builder to get a nice project
 
#144
A promise of 4 months that has turned into 16 months ongoing is a delay that indicates problems and/or priorities. And they admit they still haven’t got them figured out yet.

Bass necks are likely much more difficult than the many products they have come out with since, several of which I’m interested in, but not until they come through.
 
#147
raal said:
I would say, pay a bit more to stick with folks who are not learning the basics or trying to take advantage of global sourcing if you want graphite.
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Pay a bit more where? Basics? Who else is making carbon fiber replacement necks for Fender spec'd basses? Status is no longer taking orders. Moses has been gone for years. Modulus, Gould, Zon, etc have proprietary necks for their own basses.

I am not aware of anyone who is currently doing this unless there is a company out there hiding in the shadows or at least isn't on my radar. If they are global sourcing I'm not entirely sure why that matters when more than half of the top 10 major carbon fiber manufacturers in the world are not in the US. Those "global" companies know their stuff!

When KLOS has this running full throttle they are going to completely own the market. I mentioned this to them almost 2 years ago and it still holds true. I've met them and I believe in their ability to get it done. Let's give them the chance to get it to market and reserve judgement based on the actual product in hand. To the KLOS guys who I'm fairly certain read this forum - thank you for taking on this venture!
 
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#148
fauxtoe said:
Pay a bit more where? Basics? Who else is making carbon fiber replacement necks for Fender spec'd basses? Status is no longer taking orders. Moses has been gone for years. Modulus, Gould, Zon, etc have proprietary necks for their own basses.

I am not aware of anyone who is currently doing this unless there is a company out there hiding in the shadows or at least isn't on my radar. If they are global sourcing I'm not entirely sure why that matters when more than half of the top 10 major carbon fiber manufacturers in the world are not in the US. Those "global" companies know their stuff!

When KLOS has this running full throttle they are going to completely own the market. I mentioned this to them almost 2 years ago and it still holds true. I've met them and I believe in their ability to get it done. Let's give them the chance to get it to market and reserve judgement based on the actual product in hand. To the KLOS guys who I'm fairly certain read this forum - thank you for taking on this venture!
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Fully agree.

There is also Jerry Dorsch (ex Modulus) who does (I think) the (fantastic) G.Gould Neck and who could take a custom order but it's hardly a source scalable and easy to reach (he does not even have a website)

I'm quite impressed with KLOS as within a few years they ramp up everything from the business side to a pretty extensive instrument portfolio, there is no hurry for me and I think eventually they'll get the replacement neck right, the picture of the 5 strings ones look quite promising

Meanwhile I'll keep playing my ZON and G.Gould (and maybe place a custom order?)
 
#149
Benko said:
Fully agree.

There is also Jerry Dorsch (ex Modulus) who does (I think) the (fantastic) G.Gould Neck and who could take a custom order but it's hardly a source scalable and easy to reach (he does not even have a website)

I'm quite impressed with KLOS as within a few years they ramp up everything from the business side to a pretty extensive instrument portfolio, there is no hurry for me and I think eventually they'll get the replacement neck right, the picture of the 5 strings ones look quite promising

Meanwhile I'll keep playing my ZON and G.Gould (and maybe place a custom order?)
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At least I seem to be making sense to someone!

Oh yes, the 5 string replacement is looking mighty fine! Similar to you, I have Modulus and G. Gould basses and I'm intimately familiar with just how good those instruments are. They are the end-all for comparison and KLOS knows this already. I gave the necks on their production basses a hard look over and they are fantastic in every way.

If they have success with the Fender necks I'm hoping they are inspired to branch out to other models. Maybe perhaps...Stingrays? :smug:
 
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#150
Out of respect for email privacy I won't post word-for-word what I (and others who have pre-orders) received this morning, but to those who ordered 20 fret 4 string P or J necks it's looking like they will start getting in customer's hands starting within the next 4-6 weeks (the email details their timeline).

All others models are looking to be completed and starting to ship around early November.

So there you go!
 
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Pretty sure Jerry Dorsch still has molds for standard 4 string fender replacement. His necks are bullet proof and can really take a beating while being played. His prices are unbeatable but yes you want to give him time for builds that consistently deliver the goods. So there's that.

Graphite necks sound best when truss rod is in neutral or no truss rod.
 
#157
urkel3000 said:
Do people like paulonia as a body wood? Isn't that what they make $60 doors out of?
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As we deplete what's left of other "tone" woods (either by harvesting or disease), there has been a shift to using what is more sustainable. Tone in a solid body instrument has always controversial anyways, and I'm firmly in the camp that the majority of it lives in the neck and electronics. And why would you be buying a KLOS bass to begin with? Answer: The carbon fiber neck. Knowing the guys at KLOS I'm willing to bet some of it has to do with environmental concerns and I'm totally down that. Plus, when you want to keep an instrument consistently lightweight there has to be a willingness to use something different.
 
#158
The price and the 18mm spacing on the 6 have me almost contemplating one. I'll find a similar spaced 6 locally and try it first, but one might be in my future next year. I'm already sold on the Fishmans as I have them in my Cort A5 Ultra Ash.

I like the Rivera hardware on the headless 5, but not the lame headstock. If they made a true headless an option I'd be in.
 
#159
They look nice except for the toilet seat pickguard that they got from EBMM and the short headstock. While the shorter headstock means the overall length will be shorter and the bass will be lighter, that portion of the headstock actually protects the tuners from getting banged. I can see the tuners being the 1st to fail.
 
#160
MYLOWFREQ said:
They look nice except for the toilet seat pickguard that they got from EBMM and the short headstock. While the shorter headstock means the overall length will be shorter and the bass will be lighter, that portion of the headstock actually protects the tuners from getting banged. I can see the tuners being the 1st to fail.
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That's a real stretch nitpicking the headstock because, tuners? The tuning keys stick out no matter the headstock shape and are prone to damage. I've replaced more bent tuners that were damaged on a Fender shaped headstock than anything else I've played in the past 25 years. However, fear not because KLOS has you covered with their tuner-less (I can't say headless, because it really isn't) headstock. No more problems! :cool:
 
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