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Know your place! (craiglist bassist wanted ad)

peledog

peledog

Jul 9, 2010
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San Diego, CA
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Date: 2012-04-26, 8:22PM PDT
Reply to: **************@comm.craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

If you think that you are an experienced bassist with great equipment and knowledge of what takes to become famous,
we will definitely give you a chance to join our band.
We would want to meet a GOOD bass player who likes ROCK music, and who DOESN'T TAP or SLAP, just a SIMPLE
guy who knows his place. We need a disciplined and motivated person, not some egocentric or arrogant dude.

Also, this is our band and rules are ours. I don't care how you feel about improvisation or the way the songs are
written, you will play them the way we want. This is a great way for you to learn more about the music and success,
especially if you played for some garage bands before and you don't have any video or picture.

I don't care if you like jazz or blues, R&B or Rap or reggae, this is a ROCK band and you have to be into ROCK.
Respond just if you really believe that you want to be famous and make money from music. We don't have patience
for those that put the band on the last place in their lives and don't have time to practice but yet they say how music
is all the they do :):):)




Sounds like a guitarist wrote the ad. ;)
 
#4
That is kind of confusing... They want someone who is good, dedicated, practices and whatnot, but then doesn't use the skill. "This is our band, you will have no say" is not the way to pick up an artist. No slapping, no tapping... leave your imagination at home... sounds like a long term brawl waiting to happen.

It is better than the one I saw that was hoping Jesus himself had come to earth with his bass and wanted to play church gigs.
 
#5
I have no problem with it. It's a job, and they have provided a job description. They are the boss, you are the employee. Most bands that succeed DO have simple bass lines. Most bands that succeed DO have the bass player standing in the back. They know exactly what they want and what thay dont want, that makes them a candidate for success in my experience.
If you applied for a job in Taylor Swift's band, do you think she'd want you playing what YOU wanted and being a centre of attention? I;ll bet her musical director tells the bass player EXACTLY what to play.
 
#7
Marty Forrer said:
I have no problem with it. It's a job, and they have provided a job description. They are the boss, you are the employee. Most bands that succeed DO have simple bass lines. Most bands that succeed DO have the bass player standing in the back. They know exactly what they want and what thay dont want, that makes them a candidate for success in my experience.
If you applied for a job in Taylor Swift's band, do you think she'd want you playing what YOU wanted and being a centre of attention? I;ll bet her musical director tells the bass player EXACTLY what to play.
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I agree. At least they are being honest and upfront about what they want and expect. All though it does come across a bit arrogant, it sounds to me as though they just want a good solid foundation player, not a Victor Wooten style player.
 
#9
Marty Forrer said:
I have no problem with it. It's a job, and they have provided a job description. They are the boss, you are the employee. Most bands that succeed DO have simple bass lines. Most bands that succeed DO have the bass player standing in the back. They know exactly what they want and what thay dont want, that makes them a candidate for success in my experience.
If you applied for a job in Taylor Swift's band, do you think she'd want you playing what YOU wanted and being a centre of attention? I;ll bet her musical director tells the bass player EXACTLY what to play.
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+1
I think that the attitude in that CL ad is pretty normal in the working pro ranks, what's unusual to me is that it's in a CL ad instead of being offered through "normal" channels.
The CL thing seems a little suspect, but the "rules" are whatever the people paying the bills want. :D

Besides; when you think about it wouldn't you much rather know all of that info before you contacted them (or not... ;))?
 
#10
scorpionldr said:
lol gotta love how people practically want a robot on stage.

sad tho that most bass players in rock bands (most generic radio friendly rock) settle for this treatment, however.
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Ain't so different than the classical orchestra, is it.... rarely do you see complex lines there, and you virtually never see improvisation. You are there to serve the music.

These guys are upfront about what they want. Good on them. It ain't everyone's thing, but they will find a good bassist willing to fill that role for awhile.
 
#11
Marty Forrer said:
I have no problem with it. It's a job, and they have provided a job description. They are the boss, you are the employee. Most bands that succeed DO have simple bass lines. Most bands that succeed DO have the bass player standing in the back. They know exactly what they want and what thay dont want, that makes them a candidate for success in my experience.
If you applied for a job in Taylor Swift's band, do you think she'd want you playing what YOU wanted and being a centre of attention? I;ll bet her musical director tells the bass player EXACTLY what to play.
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I have (at least) two problems with it:
1 - They want a hired hand bass player and at the same time, someone who will be fully invested (emotionally, time-wise, probably financially) in their cause. If you're going to pay me to be a sideman for your thing, then I'll do what you ask. But they're not Taylor Swift's band, and it's pretty clear that they don't have their @@$% together to the point where they're paying "sidemen" real money. If I'm fully a part of a band - sorry, I'm going to be involved in the creative process, to the extent of playing the lines I feel fit the music and beyond, being involved in arranging and writing.

2 - They're delusional - they think that if they plan it just right, they're going to be rock stars. I usually avoid those type of folks.

sorry, but red flags all over the place with this one. d'oh!
 
#12
Tampabass said:
I have (at least) two problems with it:
1 - They want a hired hand bass player and at the same time, someone who will be fully invested (emotionally, time-wise, probably financially) in their cause. If you're going to pay me to be a sideman for your thing, then I'll do what you ask. But if I'm fully a part of a band - sorry, I'm going to be involved in the creative process, to the extent of playing the lines I feel fit the music and beyond, being involved in arranging and writing.

2 - They're delusional - they think that if they plan it just right, they're going to be rock stars. I usually avoid those type of folks.

sorry, but red flags all over the place with this one. d'oh!
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+1
couldnt agree more. someone reply and find some samples of their work. im sures its grrrreeeeeeaaaaaaaatttttttt
 
#13
>>>>If you applied for a job in Taylor Swift's band, do you think she'd want you playing what YOU wanted and being a centre of attention? I;ll bet her musical director tells the bass player EXACTLY what to play.<<<<

Yes that's true. AND I would be making alot more money than those guys are going to pay.:bassist:
 
#14
Tampabass said:
I have (at least) two problems with it:
1 - They want a hired hand bass player and at the same time, someone who will be fully invested (emotionally, time-wise, probably financially) in their cause. If you're going to pay me to be a sideman for your thing, then I'll do what you ask. But they're not Taylor Swift's band, and it's pretty clear that they don't have their @@$% together to the point where they're paying "sidemen" real money. I'm fully a part of a band - sorry, I'm going to be involved in the creative process, to the extent of playing the lines I feel fit the music and beyond, being involved in arranging and writing.

2 - They're delusional - they think that if they plan it just right, they're going to be rock stars. I usually avoid those type of folks.

sorry, but red flags all over the place with this one. d'oh!
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Well said.
 
#15
Tampabass said:
I have (at least) two problems with it:
1 - They want a hired hand bass player and at the same time, someone who will be fully invested (emotionally, time-wise, probably financially) in their cause. If you're going to pay me to be a sideman for your thing, then I'll do what you ask. But they're not Taylor Swift's band, and it's pretty clear that they don't have their @@$% together to the point where they're paying "sidemen" real money. I'm fully a part of a band - sorry, I'm going to be involved in the creative process, to the extent of playing the lines I feel fit the music and beyond, being involved in arranging and writing.

2 - They're delusional - they think that if they plan it just right, they're going to be rock stars. I usually avoid those type of folks.

sorry, but red flags all over the place with this one. d'oh!
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I agree with your points.....And I would never answer that ad.....

But....

I see nothing wrong with the Ad itself. They are being upfront and honest which is refreshing in my book. They know what they want and they know how they want it to go down.....At least perspective candidates know that going in rather than finding out after a month of rehearsals. They may be douchenozzles and all, but they're honest douchenozzles and I respect that.

After all of the Metallica (douchenozzles supreme) videos/rockumentaries/interviews I've seen.....It seems like this approach worked for them.
 
#20
To me, is seems that they are being up front about what they want probably because they are frustrated with what they've found so far. The attitude door swings both ways. If I were going to respond to that add (too old, wrong coast, and not interested) and passed the audition, I'd work out a hired gun contract as opposed to wanting to be a band member. As long as everyone knows the score and I get paid after each gig no matter what, I'd play root notes on a P with flats all night if that's what they want.
 

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