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Lakland Owners Group #69

Got my Festivus pole up today. Ready to air some grievances.
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What was there to set up? It has been plekkd. Takes 2 seconds to adjust the trust rod.
The Plek only ensures that the fretwork is acceptable (and maybe nut slots… not sure) based on the machine’s programming and the operators knowledge and skill level. A setup should be done any time strings are changed from original brand and/or gauges or whenever a player doesn’t prefer the stock specs from the factory. It involves adjusting neck relief, saddle height, intonation, and even nut slot depth. A factory stock setup is a starting point, in my opinion, and rarely feels perfect for experienced players.
 
Did you sell it on Reverb? That’s where the one I posted came from. Did you custom order as I don’t ever recall a Skyline in that configuration. I could very well be wrong though.
I have previously modified two DJ5 into this PJDJ configuration. And can't recall where I foolishly sold them. That does not look like my picture or surroundings though. If you have the link send it over as I'd be curious if that was mine. I have connected with one owner on FB that has/had one of the two.
 
The Plek only ensures that the fretwork is acceptable (and maybe nut slots… not sure) based on the machine’s programming and the operators knowledge and skill level. A setup should be done any time strings are changed from original brand and/or gauges or whenever a player doesn’t prefer the stock specs from the factory. It involves adjusting neck relief, saddle height, intonation, and even nut slot depth. A factory stock setup is a starting point, in my opinion, and rarely feels perfect for experienced players.
I agree about stock setup being suboptimal. Not sure I agree with a total setup needed when changing strings. It would have to be a pretty drastic change to require much more than a slight tweak
 
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I agree about stock setup being suboptimal. Not sure I agree with a total setup needed when changing strings. It would have to be a pretty drastic change to require much more than a slight tweak

I agree with doing a total setup evaluation when changing string brands or gauges, but not necessarily when putting the exact same brand/gauge of strings on again - assuming the bass is set up properly to begin with. Different gauges, cores, etc. intonate differently, and sometimes feel differences necessitate changes in saddle height. Sometimes there are variances even in the same brand/gauge and it's good to re-check setup and intonation each time.
 
I agree with doing a total setup evaluation when changing string brands or gauges, but not necessarily when putting the exact same brand/gauge of strings on again - assuming the bass is set up properly to begin with. Different gauges, cores, etc. intonate differently, and sometimes feel differences necessitate changes in saddle height. Sometimes there are variances even in the same brand/gauge and it's good to re-check setup and intonation each time.
I do my own setups and that hasn’t been my personal experience and I certainly wouldn’t recommend to someone who pays for setups as that can get super expensive. As always, YMMV
 
But what about the string retainer bar?!?! :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Usually there’s not much that needs to be done if you’re using the same brand & gauge of strings, IMHO, but different ones there is sometimes work to be done. Also always a good time to check hardware and neck bolt tightness, which may require… A SCREWDRIVER! GASP! :laugh:

And a socket set for the tuner bushings ;)
 
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I do my own setups and that hasn’t been my personal experience and I certainly wouldn’t recommend to someone who pays for setups as that can get super expensive. As always, YMMV

I do my own setups as well (and have done them for plenty of other folks for 20+ years) and figure it takes me an extra 5-10 minutes after I change strings (at most) to go over intonation and string height check with feeler gauges to double check everything. It's just part of the deal for me, and it's how I was taught to do it by the luthier who showed me the ropes a long time ago. The adjustments are rarely major, but I have been surprised at the intonation changes I've had to make going from brand to brand - ESPECIALLY if you're going to/from a tapered core design and how it contacts the bridge. The truss rod shouldn't need tweaking if everything is staying the same and the neck is already known to be stable, but I always check that as well after the strings are on for an hour or so.

If you're paying someone to change your strings, I would hope that 'tech' would also double-check those things as well. It's kind of like a mechanic who looks over everything else while the hood is up just as a general rule, and if there's something that needs addressing.... the hood is already up ya know?
 
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