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Lakland Owners Group #69

Do what I did - ask for a 44-64 with Geezers and a maple neck (flame in my case). Sounds awesome; Lakland neck. Boom.


44-64 skylines don’t seem to be offered with a natural finish. Was just a dream of mine. Not looking to spend custom shop money on a simple natural p. I do have Geezers in my burst/rosewood 44-64 though and love it!
 
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Well, the Skyline natty PJ with maple neck and blocks gets close.

44-64 skylines don’t seem to be offered with a natural finish. Was just a dream of mine. Not looking to spend custom shop money on a simple natural p. I do have Geezers in my burst/rosewood 44-64 though and love it!

There’s this one in the classifieds. J taper neck.

For Sale - Lakland Skyline 44-64 Custom

Also, not to beat a dead horse, but I went to the new Lakland site, I didn't think it was bad. More importantly, US DJ5!!! Finally!
 
I changed the strings on my. 44-94 and ran into two issues, one of which I sort of understand, one I don’t understand at all, and they both piss me off.

First, my G string is much louder than before, at least as compared to the relative volume between strings with the old set. That I don’t understand at all. I had to raise the saddle to offset the newfound boost in volume. Now it’s not as comfortable.

Second, the same G string buzzes around the nut/string retainer when I pluck an open G. This SORT of makes sense because the stock lakland strings have a cloth wrap around the strings where it would sit beneath retainer, and my new hi-beams are just metal on metal on the string retainer.

Any insight or similar experiences?
 
I changed the strings on my. 44-94 and ran into two issues, one of which I sort of understand, one I don’t understand at all, and they both piss me off.

First, my G string is much louder than before, at least as compared to the relative volume between strings with the old set. That I don’t understand at all. I had to raise the saddle to offset the newfound boost in volume. Now it’s not as comfortable.

Second, the same G string buzzes around the nut/string retainer when I pluck an open G. This SORT of makes sense because the stock lakland strings have a cloth wrap around the strings where it would sit beneath retainer, and my new hi-beams are just metal on metal on the string retainer.

Any insight or similar experiences?
Both of these issues should not happen from just changing strings. But, in most cases, raising the saddle is not the right course of action, to fix volume inconsistencies across the strings. Saddle height is adjusted in combination with relief (truss adjustments) to get the action to a players liking. Once saddle heights are set, they aren’t adjusted at all, unless string types and/or brands are changed, or some major changes have happened with the neck: shim/tilt adjustment, changing player action desires (big truss rod changes), etc. If anything, you should lower the pickups under the G, or raise the E ends some while lowering the G ends.

I would first rule out something else going on.

As for the noise at the headstock, silk or no silk, there should be no noise. The string should not be moving at all past the nut. The vibration will travel through the wood making anything loose (on the headstock) vibrate. Check the tuners and tree to make sure everything is nice and tight. You can track down the source by putting a finger on each part while plucking the string.
 
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Both of these issues should not happen from just changing strings. But, in most cases, raising the saddle is not the right course of action, to fix volume inconsistencies across the strings. Saddle height is adjusted in combination with relief (truss adjustments) to get the action to a players liking. Once saddle heights are set, they aren’t adjusted at all, unless string types and/or brands are changed, or some major changes have happened with the neck: shim/tilt adjustment, changing player action desires (big truss rod changes), etc. If anything, you should lower the pickups under the G, or raise the E ends some while lowering the G ends.

I would first rule out something else going on.

As for the noise at the headstock, silk or no silk, there should be no noise. The string should not be moving at all past the nut. The vibration will travel through the wood making anything loose (on the headstock) vibrate. Check the tuners and tree to make sure everything is nice and tight. You can track down the source by putting a finger on each part while plucking the string.
I did trouble shoot the buzzing and it really does feel like it comes from the nut or from the retainer. And neither is loose. I put my finger on the g string anywhere between the nut and the retainer and the buzzing goes away. Touching the actual nut or retainer does nothing. Or if I touch the nut and the g string that works too.

I like my g strings low low low. Maybe a little pun intended. It is visibly closer to the board and pickups than the others. Having it at the same height seems to act as a speed bump for my hand when playing the lower strings. I have a gig on Thursday and didn’t want to go down the rabbit hole of adjusting the pickups which for me always results in a lot of trial and error I don’t have time for right now. I’ll get to that soon. I was just curious if anyone experienced a particular string all the sudden getting louder after switching brands. These are hi beams, but even still I was really surprised.
 
I did trouble shoot the buzzing and it really does feel like it comes from the nut or from the retainer. And neither is loose. I put my finger on the g string anywhere between the nut and the retainer and the buzzing goes away. Touching the actual nut or retainer does nothing. Or if I touch the nut and the g string that works too.

I like my g strings low low low. Maybe a little pun intended. It is visibly closer to the board and pickups than the others. Having it at the same height seems to act as a speed bump for my hand when playing the lower strings. I have a gig on Thursday and didn’t want to go down the rabbit hole of adjusting the pickups which for me always results in a lot of trial and error I don’t have time for right now. I’ll get to that soon. I was just curious if anyone experienced a particular string all the sudden getting louder after switching brands. These are hi beams, but even still I was really surprised.
I have run into this issue with an A string. However, the buzz could be difference in string gauge and tension. Ultimately for me it was just a bad individual string and I need to just place a different new string and the problem was solved
 
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I have run into this issue with an A string. However, the buzz could be difference in string gauge and tension. Ultimately for me it was just a bad individual string and I need to just place a different new string and the problem was solved
Hope that’s the case. It doesn’t come through the amp, and I just ordered a fretwrap to put above the nut to lock it down, but still kind of disappointing on a brand new and expensive instrument that this would pop up. As far as I know they are the same gauges as ship stock 45-105.
 
Hope that’s the case. It doesn’t come through the amp, and I just ordered a fretwrap to put above the nut to lock it down, but still kind of disappointing on a brand new and expensive instrument that this would pop up. As far as I know they are the same gauges as ship stock 45-105.
I definitively would not assume it’s a problem with the bass. Afterall, changing strings caused it... so probably the strings right? ;-)

And if it’s a loose part, that’s just something that happens over time.
 
WAIT... you said Hi Beams! Important question: did you crimp the dickens out of the string end before bending and cutting it? The crimp has to be between the cut and the nut. The crimp keeps the string wraps from sliding on the round core. If you didn’t crimp, the string’s outer wraps will slowly slide and begin unwinding. This could cause the weird noise and affect the volume of the strings, as they’d be falling apart.
 
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I wish Lakland would release a Skyline George Porter Jr. signature P. Really jonesing for a 70’s style ash/maple p bass, and don’t want to give up the sweet feel of my 44-64’s satin neck.

This. So much this.

The custom 44-64s do get close, but as GKBass13 said... GPjr’s vibe was a plain maple board, and not the PJ, just the single P pup.

I can’t wait to see him again next month in Boulder @ the Fox with his “trio”... but no matter what or who he’s with it’s still a Meters gig to me.
 
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