Lakland Owners Group #69

[MaxSpinrun]

I have both, 44-01 and 44-02. Soon after I got the 44-01 changed pups and pre. It is stellar now. 44-02 totally different bass with it’s versatility. Yea, if you can get both.

 

[JEDI BASS]

Ehhh, y’all need a passive P with volume and tone AND active dual Trujillo Riptide J bass with 18 volt EMG preamp with 2 outputs. That’s versatility!! ;-D

I’ve got a custom red Ampturco cable with 4 color coded ends coming, to use with my active mixer pedal. It should make Diablo Rojo more user friendly.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

I have played that bass. Very versatile. Want to play it after it has been transformed again. Very unique. Now just make it lighter, LOL!

 

[JEDI BASS]

Very unique. Now just make it lighter, LOL!

Oh… I am!!

 

[Z-Bass]

Better preamp in the 02 versus 01.
Sorry, but it’s been said so many times in last 15 years. I had to say it once more.

Would a better comparison be the XX-02 and XX-OS? Different body shape aside but for comparisons sake regarding the electronics, the Bartolini pre-amp in the OS models seems to work much better with the MK1 pickups than the standard pre in the XX-01 models. Admittedly I'm basing this fully on what I can gather from online examples and not an actual side-by-side comparison. I've only seen one 55-OS model in the wild but unfortunately did not get to play it. Can anyone else corroborate this?

 

[Tom P]

Ehhh, y’all need a passive P with volume and tone AND active dual Trujillo Riptide J bass with 18 volt EMG preamp with 2 outputs. That’s versatility!! ;-D
View attachment 5088532 I’ve got a custom red Ampturco cable with 4 color coded ends coming, to use with my active mixer pedal. It should make Diablo Rojo more user friendly.

A true WMD!!!!!

 

[BassAgent]

Hi all, question: has anyone here ever compared a USA Joe Osborn to a 1st generation Skyline JO? So the Korean ones with the Fralin pickups?

Anyone?

 

[FearNoEvil65]

To clarify, my 55-01 can do passive mode too by pulling up the volume knob. Does yours not do this?

The 01 series does not have passive, active only. Pulling up the volume just bypasses the active EQ tone control. Apparently it's useful for some pedals where the signal is to strong otherwise. Take the battery out and try it, you will have no signal. With the battery out of an 02 series, pull the volume and it works, but very weak.
Really not a big deal as it's easy to change the battery

 

[BHaev]

The 01 series does not have passive, active only. Pulling up the volume just bypasses the active EQ tone control. Apparently it's useful for some pedals where the signal is to strong otherwise. Take the battery out and try it, you will have no signal. With the battery out of an 02 series, pull the volume and it works, but very weak.
Really not a big deal as it's easy to change the battery View attachment 5088799

Thanks for sharing this. I’ve only had my 55-01 for a few weeks and bought it used. I thought it was passive mode - just learned something new.

 

[Z-Bass]

Anyone?

I don't know how helpful this will be but a good while ago, a local music shop (long since closed down) got a Lakland Skyline 44-60 or Joe Osborne (can't remember what they were called initially) in the shop. It was a beautiful instrument, black with an all maple neck/fretboard and a mint pickguard. I think it was one of Korean made 1st generation runs. I remember trying it out thinking how good it played, felt, and sounded. One of the workers there said he had a USA Lakland Joe Osborn and it was in the shop at that time. He let me play both and do a side by side comparison. One of the things I noticed was how well made and similar the basses were to each other. However, there was something special about the USA model that felt sooooo good. That neck just felt like an old comfy pair of shoes. I can't remember if the pickups were the same but I recall the Joe Osborn sounding so rich and full.

It's definitely one of things where you have to try both and see if the extra cost for a USA is worth it (assuming that's why you were asking) but I was glad to have had that opportunity.

 

[BassAgent]

Ah that's really helpful Thanks! I already own a USA JO:

Which exactly fits your "old comfy pair of shoes" description. There is a first run Skyline JO for sale in Belgium and I'm seriously considering it as a backup bass. On the other hand, I have two absolutely perfect four-string Jazzes (a vintage Fender and a Fender Custom Shop) so I might do it, or might not...

 

[Z-Bass]

Ah that's really helpful Thanks! I already own a USA JO.
Which exactly fits your "old comfy pair of shoes" description. There is a first run Skyline JO for sale in Belgium and I'm seriously considering it as a backup bass. On the other hand, I have two absolutely perfect four-string Jazzes (a vintage Fender and a Fender Custom Shop) so I might do it, or might not...

That's gorgeous! Love that color! Well I think you're more than covered as far as jazz basses go; however, if you have a gig(s) in less than favorable conditions, the first run Skyline JO should serve you very well without having to worry about those 3.

 

[tb-player]

I’ve been on the hunt for the right passive jazz. I like a classic 60s sound, lightweight with a broken-in feel.

I keep coming across the Lakland USA Classic 44-60. I found this model exclusively on Sweetwater. I’ve seen some YouTube clips and it sounds good. Just curious if anyone here plays/has played one. Thoughts? Thx.

 

[JEDI BASS]

I’ve been on the hunt for the right passive jazz. I like a classic 60s sound, lightweight with a broken-in feel.

I keep coming across the Lakland USA Classic 44-60. I found this model exclusively on Sweetwater. I’ve seen some YouTube clips and it sounds good. Just curious if anyone here plays/has played one. Thoughts? Thx.

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You’d probably love it! Although, they don’t use nitro paint on the body. It’s relic’d poly. The neck will have an oil finish, which will feel like nitro that’s been worn away over decades of playing.

 

[Mohawk]

I don't know how helpful this will be but a good while ago, a local music shop (long since closed down) got a Lakland Skyline 44-60 or Joe Osborne (can't remember what they were called initially) in the shop. It was a beautiful instrument, black with an all maple neck/fretboard and a mint pickguard. I think it was one of Korean made 1st generation runs. I remember trying it out thinking how good it played, felt, and sounded. One of the workers there said he had a USA Lakland Joe Osborn and it was in the shop at that time. He let me play both and do a side by side comparison. One of the things I noticed was how well made and similar the basses were to each other. However, there was something special about the USA model that felt sooooo good. That neck just felt like an old comfy pair of shoes. I can't remember if the pickups were the same but I recall the Joe Osborn sounding so rich and full.

It's definitely one of things where you have to try both and see if the extra cost for a USA is worth it (assuming that's why you were asking) but I was glad to have had that opportunity.

I think a large part of that feel is the oil finish neck vs the sealed neck. I haven't tried a non USA Lakland before but other brand basses that I had with the sealed neck finish were never as smooth feeling as the USA made Lakland basses. And when sweating on a hot stage my hands would tend to get sticky on a sealed neck finish but that never happens on the oiled necks. It's a big part of why I love the Lakland USA models.

 

[Naigewron]

Photographer at our last gig captured a killer shot of the 55-02. Figured it was worth showing off here too:

Photo credit: Allan Larsen

 

[Holdsg]

I think a large part of that feel is the oil finish neck vs the sealed neck. I haven't tried a non USA Lakland before but other brand basses that I had with the sealed neck finish were never as smooth feeling as the USA made Lakland basses. And when sweating on a hot stage my hands would tend to get sticky on a sealed neck finish but that never happens on the oiled necks. It's a big part of why I love the Lakland USA models.

agree
This is why I would pretty much always sand off the finish on my Skyline basses and oil and wax it back up.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

Would sanding off the finish and then putting on multiple coats of Tru oil yield the same results?

 

[BassAgent]

I think a large part of that feel is the oil finish neck vs the sealed neck. I haven't tried a non USA Lakland before but other brand basses that I had with the sealed neck finish were never as smooth feeling as the USA made Lakland basses. And when sweating on a hot stage my hands would tend to get sticky on a sealed neck finish but that never happens on the oiled necks. It's a big part of why I love the Lakland USA models.

Hmmm yeah that's not a big worry for me. My Jazz model basses are divided more or less 50-50 between gloss and satin finish (and then the oiled JO). I still don't have a definitive preference there.

 

[Johnny Alien]

I have seen this bass on the GC site for awhile now. Its been sold and returned at least twice. GC labels it as "good". Its a first or second year 02 because of the color (which isn't common). So have any of you bought and returned this? I am interested at what the problem is that makes it not a good value at that price.

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