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Learn 10 songs for an audition?

I can't even begin to tell you how many songs I've learned that I can't remember now, because of lack of real use for them. Those songs would surely end up in that category

Sure, me too. I've learned over 250 songs with my band (over 7 years). Some of those I've played only once or twice for gigs, and except for the 30 or so we played at a gig two weeks ago, I'd have to re-learn them to play today. The difference is, re-learning takes very little time. Having played them once is enough to have them somewhere in my memory bank.
 
It depends on difficulty. If they are relatively easy songs, then I wouldn't think it was excessive, although as a band leader myself, I would normally give about 5 songs in different styles or feel. i don't want to raise expectations and tick the candidate off by putting him or her to all kinds of work, for nothing (as you are concerned about).

If they wanted me to nail 10 Weather Report songs note for note, complete with smokin' solos over chord changes I have never seen before, then it's a stretch. But perhaps that is more of a reflection on my skills rather than the reasonableness of the request from the auditioner.

I personally think 10 is excessive if the songs are difficult, and reasonable if they are not too hard or complex.
 
I frankly wish I would've asked the guitarist we were trying out for our band to learn 10 songs to audition.
We took him in because he can play but it turns out he sucks at learning songs and only just barely has 9 songs in rough shape under his belt after 6 weeks, a couple of which we had to drill into him.

Realistically, 10 songs is more than acceptable if they're not all complicated.
 
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Depends on the type of band, how bad I want the spot, and if the songs were songs that I could use under my belt in the future if this audition doesnt pan out.

I can't tell you how many auditions Ive gone to where the band tells me to pick songs off their set list. When I show up and call one out they say "oh we used to do that with our old singer "or "we didn't learn that one yet" or "we havent played that one on years".

I now learn bare minimum to pass an audition. If I get the gig, then Ill crank out the songs
(Just as long as there are gigs on their calendar, which is a whole other topic of concern )
 
10 songs? I don't find that excessive at all. I learned more than twice that for my last audition. They had asked me to learn 3 or 4 for the audition but I went to their website and learned their entire song list. Why? Because I liked the music. Now, by "learn" I mean I reviewed all the tunes for several days, made my charts, loaded them into my iPad app and used that at the audition. At the audition we spent a good two hours running through all their material and it was quite enjoyable. I didn't just do well, I nailed it, blew the competition away, got the gig and am still with the band 4 years later, (and introduced the band members to the charting app I use, which was a game changer for them). I went in knowing what the goal was with full intention of securing the gig.
 
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I have crammed 14 into 3 days for an audition, granted, they were all pretty easy bubble gum metal (not slamming metal, I love it, but these were on the cheese ball side (Kiss, Crue, Poison, Easier megadeth (Kill the king and Symphony). Were they perfect? No, but the groove was there and I did it as matter of personal pride. YMMV
 
This may not be the norm, but even in cover situations I generally chart out 90% of the songs for my own benefit. And if the song is rekeyed, I produce a song file in the proper key so I can practice in the right key. Having put in all that work, it seems silly not to make that available to someone auditioning. So I set up a dropbox.

But I've been on the other side where the band doesn't do a thing to help new members out. A good portion of the time I show up and the band has learned at least one song wrong. I try to roll with it, but it's terribly unproductive. I haven't stuck with one of those situations yet. Mostly my choice.

For me, charting out a song just so I can start playing it takes anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour in some cases. If someone has already done that work, why not make it available. Also, when a band works off of the same chart, it minimizes squabbles over chords, lyrics, etc.
 
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Meh. No biggie if its something youre really interested in getting as a gig. As a working guy Im shedding tunes constantly, so 10 is nothing to me. Plus I chart them all into an app, which acts as a data base of charts for me for future work, as ya never know when the same tunes will show up later, and then the work is already done:). Never a waste of time as far as Im concerend to learn new material
 
It'd be interesting to read the ad in question.

Before I'd agree to even 4-5 songs for a first meeting I'd need to know much more than what's offered in the OP, but in general I'd say 10 is far, FAR beyond excessive for a first audition. Unless you know for a fact that these are solid players who can kill the material AND there's a high chance that you may get the gig and have to know those songs, and possibly many more, very quickly after the audition for a well-paying gig. In other words, the gig is already yours if you're not a fake or a flake or otherwise undesirable, AND you know you want that gig. Or you really just want to work out on the material no matter what happens.

As BL the only times I've asked for 10 songs (or more) was when someone had to learn the whole set(s) because they already had the gig *without* an audition and a gig was imminent. And I made that clear.

The only time I had to learn more than 4 songs for an audition was in the same situation, and it was made very clear to me.

To me being asked to learn 10 songs, especially if it's in short order, for a first audition is a sign of big egos, poor organization, or both, unless the caveats above apply. A band should be no more eager to spend more than 30 minutes with someone who says they can play than you should be eager to spend unnecessary extra time with people you've never met and that apparently don't have functional bassists in their collective circle.

Quality players can assess your personality and skills within at most 3-5 carefully chosen songs. More than that, and something else is going on. In my experience a well-organized BL will want to get it done ASAP and have other musicians ready at the door for their audition when your 15-30 minutes is up.

When a good band has good gigs for decent pay in a city of any decent size, they can usually find someone via their network without having to audition anyone so IMO even the act of auditioning is a bit of a red flag. Again, so may variables and caveats apply, but most bands I've auditioned for turned out to be not worth auditioning for. But they sure talked the talk!

The high-quality gigs all came from referrals. Including with internationally known names. BL calls and if you're available the gig is yours. No audition, and sometimes no rehearsal. I've often hired people this way too. In fact I much prefer it. If you're vouched for by a respected player, it's a done deal. That's a seldom-cited reason to take lessons with a busy local pro. The gigs he can't do go to you.

It's like good jobs in good companies. Few, if any, are ever posted. A good company with a good position and pay on offer won't be so desperate as to want to interview whatever random people aren't already busy and happened to read their ad. And a good company will create a position when the right person comes along.

It does not matter if it's good for you to learn songs. It's much better for you to practice what you need to practice per your shortcomings, interests, and the advice of your instructor (hint: work on the material he gets paid most to play, and when he needs a sub the gig is yours), not a wish list on someone's CL ad.

It does not matter how many songs I, or anyone else, once had to learn in a situation that isn't relevant to what's divulged in that ad.
 
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My opinions:

* 10 is unnecessary
* 5 is enough - it varies acc to genre, but generalising: a loud song, a soft song, a fast one, a slow one, a song that's open and allows the player to show some individuality
* From the OP's "I just spent time learning 10 songs for nothing" - I'll grant there are exceptions, but my experience is that learning a song is rarely "for nothing". Apart from improving/exercising your learning/listening skills and ability to pick up songs quickly and accurately, in some genres the same songs (or at least the same style of songs) come up over and over, so learning is rarely wasted

Mike
 
Personally, I would make sure I could play my audition material as close to perfect as possible. Meaning I'd rather nail 3-5 tunes without mistakes than half-ass my way through 10. Of course, it depends on how complex the songs are and how much time you have to work on the material.
 
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I had a local guy who wanted me to play bass for his prog project. I had to learn all of Genesis "Trick of the Tail" and Yes "Relayer" and I had 2 weeks.

I learned "Trick of the Tail" but didn't have the time to get ALL of Relayer. Neither did anyone else, and the whole thing came to naught.

When my old band auditioned musicians we would send them three originals, ask them to choose one learn it reasonably well, and two covers - but they were Dream Theater covers and had usually 2 weeks or so to get them.

When I joined I had to learn DT's "Ytse Jam" and "La Villa Strangiato" (but I already knew La Villa, so it wasn't that bad).

It all depends,
 
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