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Lightweight Cabinet rec?

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rawchuck said:
I was looking at an Aguilar
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I've had the AG 700 & TH700 for a while now.
Just picked up the SL212. It travels "lighter" than the weight would indicate.
The Genzler NC 212 is also an option that is slimmer and lighter.

I prefer the Aguilar so far - it just seems warmer for my tastes, but haven't tried the Genzler in a live setting yet.
A single 112 can run out of gas quickly - and I prefer a taller cab to get the driver closer to your ear, but I'll use a single SL112 occasionally for "quieter" trio gigs.
 
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Marko 1 said:
Why would one need the option of one 12" cab when the 2x12 would be better in any circumstance?

I just don't get this mentality.
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I'm in this category - its all about using what's enough to cover the gig vs more than enough. In my case, I'm loading in an upright, an electric bass, a pedalboard, some hardware (ipad stand, upright stand), a duffle bag with amp head, cables, etc - if 1 cab can get the job done with a 112 or 115 cab and it only weighs 21 lbs, why bring something bigger/heavier? 99% of the time I'm lined intothe foh pa also so I really cant get very loud on the stage or I'm out of whack with everyone else.
 
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Marko 1 said:
Imma take a wild guess that the OP doesn't have to pack an upright.

So he should have room for a 2x12. :)
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yeah, but for us old guys there's a big difference between the weight and size of a 112 vs a 212. I know lots of guys think bigger is better but not me. When I bring my 115 and 112, its prettymuch overkill, even with a loud band. These modern cabs (in my case, RevSound) are so efficient that bigger isnot neccesarly better. This coming from a guy who used to gig a mega-cab with 1 15"JBL speakers.
 
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bherman said:
Ha! Im very fit, but have recently realized that bigger cabs is not always better.
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I respectfully disagree, imo bigger than minimum is ALWAYS better,

now if you have an issue that makes it difficult for you, you do what you have to,

but spreading this as though it's the cool thing to do is a disservice to our younger brothers and sisters who are looking for advice.

Thank you very much. :cigar:
 
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I used to have a modular Markbass rig with 1x12 combo and 1x12 extension cab. I always ended up bringing both to rehearsals and gigs. Eventually I got two custom 212 combos by GR Bass. They weigh about 28 lbs and one stays at home and the other goes out. I figure that I can have the 212 configuration with 800 watts all the time and just turn down if I need to. I can hand carry everything in one trip and setup and tear down are less than a minute.
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Personally I find my 52 lbs vertical 212 easier to load and unload the my 32 lbs 112. With the 212 it's just a simple tilt and slide. Gravity is my friend here. With the 112 I have to bend or squat and dead lift it to waist high. Gravity is not my friend here. And yes I run 3x12 more often than not. ;)

Now that we have properly derailed the OPs thread...
@rawchuck, based on your description of the tone you're chasing I'll second the recommendation to take a look at the Genzler Nu-Classic 212T. It's a vertical cab so a small footprint and only 44 lbs with an old school vibe.

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rawchuck said:
Hi!

I have been playing guitar for over 30 years, and started playing bass a few years ago. Up until now, my bass playing has solely been in the studio, never live. Well, I finally lined up some live gigs and need a rig.

I play a P Bass with flats, and go for an old school soul/Motown/blues type sound. I bought an Aguilar AG700and I like it so far. But I don’t have a cabinet yet.

I want to get something lightweight, portable, yet full sounding. Budget allows me to buy a quality cabinet.

I was looking at an Aguilar can to match my amp, but they seem heavier than I was hoping for.

Can I have some recommendations for a cabinet that I can use live, that is lightweight and sounds great? I would like to be able to have enough volume to play with a controlled, dynamic drummer. But I don’t need to peel paint…..I can send a di to the pa if I need more output. Ideally looking for a 1x12for compactness and fullness of sound. I’d be open to other options, but I would prefer to keep it to a single cab for the rig. Ideally, the cabinet is a regular stock item, and not something I will need to wait weeks/months for…

thanks!
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If you're looking at 112's take a look (better yet play through) the Eden EX-112 cab (handles 300-watts rms). I just needed a 112 for a small brewpub where we hosted over 40 "Friday Night Open Mic" nights per year, so I never expected to buy another one and bought the one in 4Ω, That turned out to be a mistake. Street Price was only $269 for this super compact 112 with Neo whizzer speaker that weighs 31-lbs. First night I used it, it sounded so good that I immediately turned around and ordered a second one to use with the first at medium-sized venues.

It's so compact because the speaker uses a whizzer cone (cone within a cone) for the high-mids and highs. I was very apprehensive about this set up but have a friend in Derwick, England who had used them for about 3 or 4-years before I considered them. He continually sang their praises on the Eden Forum and urged me to buy them. To be honest, Eden's top of the line D112XST is a better sounding albeit larger and heavier cab, but there's no where near $600 difference in their sound and that's the difference in their price. I often got compliments from the audience and other bass players on the sound of these two cabs driven by my Eden WT500/800 amp. Had to use the bigger amp because I didn't have an amp at the time that would handle a 2Ω load. My WT500 has two power channels that go to 4Ω each, so I just plug one into each channel. If you think you might want to use two of them, be sure you get them in 8Ω.

Here's my small venue set-up using a 225-watt Eden TN-226 class D amp (weighs 4.7-lbs) that I bought specifically for use at that brew pub. It all fits nicely in a chair and I can carry everything in our out in one trip.
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And here's the 2x112 set up with my big Eden amp (~36-lbs in its rack). Lots of compliments on my sound with this set-up. I now have a DNA-800 class D amp that will handle a 2Ω load and weighs 4.8-lbs. I could use that with these cabs and it wouldn't hang over the edges. Notice that I turned the 112's on their side to line up the ports and reduce the overhang of the amp.
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rawchuck said:
Hi!

I have been playing guitar for over 30 years, and started playing bass a few years ago. Up until now, my bass playing has solely been in the studio, never live. Well, I finally lined up some live gigs and need a rig.

I play a P Bass with flats, and go for an old school soul/Motown/blues type sound. I bought an Aguilar AG700and I like it so far. But I don’t have a cabinet yet.

I want to get something lightweight, portable, yet full sounding. Budget allows me to buy a quality cabinet.

I was looking at an Aguilar can to match my amp, but they seem heavier than I was hoping for.

Can I have some recommendations for a cabinet that I can use live, tht is lightweight and sounds great? I would like to be able to have enough volume to play with a controlled, dynamic drummer. But I don’t need to peel paint…..I can send a di to the pa if I need more output. Ideally looking for a 1x12for compactness and fullness of sound. I’d be open to other options, but I would prefer to keep it to a single cab for the rig. Ideally, the cabinet is a regular stock item, and not something I will need to wait weeks/months for…

thanks!
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I have a Schroeder 1210PL 41 lbs, perfect!
 
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If you want a Motown sound with the Aguilar then you may want to look at a 15" cab to be able to go a little lower with a single cab. The Mesa Subway 115-8ohm ( 37lb.'s) would be a nice cab for your situation. If you decide down the you want even more power/volume you can buy another subway 15, 12, or 210 to pair it with and you would be set to handle most situations.
There are a lot of great options as people have mentioned. I play the mesa subway cabs with the Aguilar TH700 and it works very well together. A little different than the AG700 but it translates the Aguilar sound nicely but tightens it up a bit compared to the Aggie SL line which I've played alot in the past. Just my 2 cents FWIW. I hope you enjoy whatever you decide.
 
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Marko 1 said:
Modular Shmodular...

Stereo bass :roflmao:

If you can't fit a 2x12 in your car, you need a real car.

Get a 2x12 for gigging and some old POS for the rehearsal space.

Why handle two cabs at any gig when you can handle one. :thumbsup:
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Come on, man. There's no need to be arrogant. None of these situations apply to me personally, but I can understand how others have different needs. I'm not about to look down on someone because they don't own a vehicle, don't have the same physical health where carrying a bigger cabinet is as easy, etc. Everyone's different. Just let others do their thing and you do yours :)
 
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