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LIL' WAYNE

#43
palm grease said:
huge flaming fail of a thread!

some poeple don't get jazz, fusion, funk, jaco, flea, jazz basses, p basses, sx, guns (I kid I kid).......point is, in the end it's their loss! not mine, not yours....THEIRS! some people are blissfully ignorant..... again not my problem! some dudes are all like "I've been around for a hundred years, so I must know more then the next guy"........ but they don't...all they've learned is the art of being more stubborn and set in their ways as the years have passed! some people can't evolve musically...... (can't tell ya how many hair metal bands lurk on long island!)..... all of it is their loss, not mine not ours!!!!!.......theirs! we can all agree once you stop learning you won't step forward, fine with me! I enjoyed ric's insight, it makes me realize how I'm always a step ahead. I'm still learning and musically I'll continue to evolve until my fingers fail me. ric isn't a hurdle, he's an inspiration. I'm inspired to never allow myself to become so close minded and bitter at the success of others and to always keep my ears open. people are passionate about things for a reason, I wanna know why! so I'll grow! stop being a student...and failure is the only thing to look forward!

Found out 30 mins ago I'm playin with the Roots on Sept 14th!!!! Ric, I'll tell ya all about it! Off to practice! peace!
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Good insight. And congrats on the roots. That's almost the holy grail right there.

I just get livid when people are ignorant enough to dismiss an entire genre of music. It is nothing more than sheer and utter stupidity. I don't deal well with stupidity. But like you said, it's not my loss, it's theirs.
 
#45
ric1312 said:
ahahahahaahahahaha, ya he's intelligent. wow you have low standards. The guy can't even speak without sounding half ********.

He is not a marketer or an entrepeneur. He is just another in the long line of rappers that the music business pukes out.

Rules for making it it rap music:

1. Be black and a thug if not try real hard to act like you are.

2. Be thug and promote gang violence. If not and instead you are really a wimpy little weenie from the subburbs pretend you are from the street and hard.

3. Make sure to rap about bitches.

4. Make sure to rap about hoes.

5. Make sure to rap about gang life and violence. And promote being a criminal and violent as a great way to live.

6. Make sure to rap about how you feel about black culture and how, "the man," is keeping you down.

7. Make sure to rap about how much flow your raps have and that no one can beat them and everyone is jealous.

8. Make sure to wear a sports jearsey at some point.

9. Make sure to wear a baseball cap and turn to a slant that looks like someone tried to knock it off your head but you were too lazy to correct it.

10. Wear a rediculous amount of jewelery to show your fans how they are making you rich.

11. Wear a jewel encrusted, "grill," on your teeth even though you don't wear braces. This is really important as it will help you slur your words even more.

12. Make sure that some of your raps try to invent new colorful phrases in the hopes the phrase will catch on and people will repeat it.

13. When you play live make sure to hire a real band to back you up to make you look like a real artist.

14. When you play live make sure to have a team of other rappers around echoing parts of raps.

15.It's also a must that you and your hype men have no sense of pitch and sound very little like the recorded version of the rap. Even better if it's obvious that you are about the lose your voice, even though all you are doing is rapping.

16. When you can't find a good rhyme for a word make up new word that never exsisted before.

17. When you can't be bothered to write your own beats and background for your raps just rip off another artists and call it sampleing.

18. Make sure to have guest rappers/artist on your album to make up for the lack or real musical content, creativity and general skill.
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Well, at least you put some effort into this silliness. Well played.
:D
 
#47
ric1312 said:
What a load. I'm old enough to have been around when rap was just hitting the mainstream and making it big. It was garbadge then and it's garbadge now.

Anyone who hears a live rap, "peformance," as opposed to the studio peformance that is polished by studio pros, and then thinks that ANY rapper has music talent, must be tone deaf.

Rapper = talentless. All they do is rhyme words, wave their arms around and try to act stylish/hip. Any moron with a rhyming dictionary and half ass sense of synchopation can rap as good as anybody rapping on a major release right now.

People spout stuff like, "O but you are ignorant you havn't heard the really good stuff that isn't commercialized and bastardized," are dillusional.

Rap music is noise made by retards for retards.
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Thanks again.
:D
 
#48
Sig Saucer said:
Rhyming takes talent. But let me take an excerpt from the most downloaded rap song in history:

"Soulja boy off in this hoe
Watch me crank it
Watch me roll
Watch me crank dat soulja boy
Then super man dat hoe"

It sounds a lot like "eeny, meeny, miny, moe"

Compare that to the meter and rhymes of Shakespeare, you obviously figure out what is trash and what is art.
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You too.
:D
 
#49
palm grease said:
huge flaming fail of a thread!

some poeple don't get jazz, fusion, funk, jaco, flea, jazz basses, p basses, sx, guns (I kid I kid).......point is, in the end it's their loss! not mine, not yours....THEIRS! some people are blissfully ignorant..... again not my problem! some dudes are all like "I've been around for a hundred years, so I must know more then the next guy"........ but they don't...all they've learned is the art of being more stubborn and set in their ways as the years have passed! some people can't evolve musically...... (can't tell ya how many hair metal bands lurk on long island!)..... all of it is their loss, not mine not ours!!!!!.......theirs! we can all agree once you stop learning you won't step forward, fine with me! I enjoyed ric's insight, it makes me realize how I'm always a step ahead. I'm still learning and musically I'll continue to evolve until my fingers fail me. ric isn't a hurdle, he's an inspiration. I'm inspired to never allow myself to become so close minded and bitter at the success of others and to always keep my ears open. people are passionate about things for a reason, I wanna know why! so I'll grow! stop being a student...and failure is the only thing to look forward!

Found out 30 mins ago I'm playin with the Roots on Sept 14th!!!! Ric, I'll tell ya all about it! Off to practice! peace!
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But music is so much more fun when you're completely closeminded. Plus you don't have to ever deal with being surprised.

:D

BTW do you mean you're on a show playing in the Roots' group or with another artist?
 
#51
Visirale said:
Good insight. And congrats on the roots. That's almost the holy grail right there.

I just get livid when people are ignorant enough to dismiss an entire genre of music. It is nothing more than sheer and utter stupidity. I don't deal well with stupidity. But like you said, it's not my loss, it's theirs.
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If you live long enough, the stupidity will wear you down... unless you find a way to deal with it. Letting it get to you is not the way to deal with it. Be saddened, be entertained, ignore it... but don't let it get you down. After all, that may be part of the reason for it.

IMO of course.
 
#52
Brad Johnson said:
If you live long enough, the stupidity will wear you down... unless you find a way to deal with it. Letting it get to you is not the way to deal with it. Be saddened, be entertained, ignore it... but don't let it get you down. After all, that may be part of the reason for it.

IMO of course.
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I think I'll follow in your suit and find it entertaining... Because this thread does deliver!
 
#53
Brad Johnson said:
But music is so much more fun when you're completely closeminded. Plus you don't have to ever deal with being surprised.

:D

BTW do you mean you're on a show playing in the Roots' group or with another artist?
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lol :)

thx guys!
I'm sittin here with my guys now and we're bouncin off the walls!

its my band!
I posted a thread about a tour (can't link it I'm on the phone).

yeah man, ric, I play hiphop......WHAT!!!!
 
#56
ric1312 said:
ahahahahaahahahaha, ya he's intelligent. wow you have low standards. The guy can't even speak without sounding half ********.

He is not a marketer or an entrepeneur. He is just another in the long line of rappers that the music business pukes out.

Rules for making it it rap music:

1. Be black and a thug if not try real hard to act like you are.

2. Be thug and promote gang violence. If not and instead you are really a wimpy little weenie from the subburbs pretend you are from the street and hard.

3. Make sure to rap about bitches.

4. Make sure to rap about hoes.

5. Make sure to rap about gang life and violence. And promote being a criminal and violent as a great way to live.

6. Make sure to rap about how you feel about black culture and how, "the man," is keeping you down.

7. Make sure to rap about how much flow your raps have and that no one can beat them and everyone is jealous.

8. Make sure to wear a sports jearsey at some point.

9. Make sure to wear a baseball cap and turn to a slant that looks like someone tried to knock it off your head but you were too lazy to correct it.

10. Wear a rediculous amount of jewelery to show your fans how they are making you rich.

11. Wear a jewel encrusted, "grill," on your teeth even though you don't wear braces. This is really important as it will help you slur your words even more.

12. Make sure that some of your raps try to invent new colorful phrases in the hopes the phrase will catch on and people will repeat it.

13. When you play live make sure to hire a real band to back you up to make you look like a real artist.

14. When you play live make sure to have a team of other rappers around echoing parts of raps.

15.It's also a must that you and your hype men have no sense of pitch and sound very little like the recorded version of the rap. Even better if it's obvious that you are about the lose your voice, even though all you are doing is rapping.

16. When you can't find a good rhyme for a word make up new word that never exsisted before.

17. When you can't be bothered to write your own beats and background for your raps just rip off another artists and call it sampleing.

18. Make sure to have guest rappers/artist on your album to make up for the lack or real musical content, creativity and general skill.
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Spoken like an Intelligent being. Oh might intellectual, can you please teach us, simple minds, how to be Intelligent like you! Spare us from ignorance! Your words on wisdom were not enough, please please give us some more.
 
#57
Im not a giant hip hop/rap fan, but I feal it suffers the same stereotypes that Heavy Metal does, and you all probably know by now that Im very big Metal fan. I also work at a country format radio station. Ive listened to tons of music and Ill say this: If you listen to enough songs in any genre you will eventually find something you like. Secondly the hardcore fans of most genres dont like the popular artists within that genre (there are exceptions). The Mainstream misrepresnts every genre. If you want to find meanfingful good music find a die hard fan of the genre and talk to them about what they like. Then you will know what its all about untill you have done that dont make assumptions. There is meaningful music in every genre and their is manufactured music in every genre.

When I see things like ric's list it makes me angry. I can tell that he has listened to very little rap music and has already written off the entire genre. Yet Im sure he wishes people had a more open mind about the music he enjoys and creates. I love Metal, I was raised on 80'pop and hair metal. Ive been to operas and Ive hung out with street rappers. I work at a country music station and I appreciate funk basslines. Im glad I dont have the attitude about music that persons like ric do, and it has lead me to appreciate adn enjoy a wide selection of entertainment. I wish more people would embrase an open attitude toward music and life in general.
 
#59
Yngwie 4String said:
Im not a giant hip hop/rap fan, but I feal it suffers the same stereotypes that Heavy Metal does, and you all probably know by now that Im very big Metal fan. I also work at a country format radio station. Ive listened to tons of music and Ill say this: If you listen to enough songs in any genre you will eventually find something you like. Secondly the hardcore fans of most genres dont like the popular artists within that genre (there are exceptions). The Mainstream misrepresnts every genre. If you want to find meanfingful good music find a die hard fan of the genre and talk to them about what they like. Then you will know what its all about untill you have done that dont make assumptions. There is meaningful music in every genre and their is manufactured music in every genre.

When I see things like ric's list it makes me angry. I can tell that he has listened to very little rap music and has already written off the entire genre. Yet Im sure he wishes people had a more open mind about the music he enjoys and creates. I love Metal, I was raised on 80'pop and hair metal. Ive been to operas and Ive hung out with street rappers. I work at a country music station and I appreciate funk basslines. Im glad I dont have the attitude about music that persons like ric do, and it has lead me to appreciate adn enjoy a wide selection of entertainment. I wish more people would embrase an open attitude toward music and life in general.
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I love this attitude that because I think this or that is crap I am closed minded. The simple fact is I can't stand any kind of music that is obvious crud and lauded like it is something special or that it takes a lot of talent.

To me it's the same as these artists that do stuff like keep a dog on leesh and watch it starve or crap all over a crucifix and call it art and then art snobs who think they are hip and in the know act like they get it and anyone who doesn't is ignorant of what good art is.

Rap is the biggest media joke ever perpetrated on music lovers, the only reason it exsists is because they pushed it on you and put in on pedastal as this meaningful cultural music. The music industry doesn't have to worry about finding talent for that kind of, "music," because there is literally a planet full of people capable of the same thing.

Look at my other post and tell me that almost every rapper ever doesn't fit that description.

Rap is way worse than hair metal every was. Hair metal got ripped on for all the bands that had the same look and sounded the same and were marginal musicians. Rap has been doing that since it's beginning, and ten times as long, yet somehow no one really calls them on it.
 

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