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Double Bass looking at getting an EA setup

BassGreaser

BassGreaser

Aug 22, 2002
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#1
I'm looking at getting the Micro head with either a wizzy 12 as I'm moving out to the east coast in a few months. Ideally I would lke to use two wizzy tens but it doesnt look like i can run two 4 ohm cabs with the head. what do you guys think would give me the best tone and volume.. I like the idea of two tens as I cab bring one cab for the small stuff and two for the bigger stuff, but thats if i can use two cabs with the Micro head.:hmm:
 
#5
BassGreaser said:
that is such good news to hear! how does a single wizzy sound tone wise.. would it be enough for small upright gigs?
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I would say yes volume wise, but tone is more subjective.

My only reservation is recommending it is that it can be quite mid-range focused depending on your setup. I owned the wizzy 10 for some time, but ended up selling it for this reason.

I've never heard the 12 M-line, but judging by what others have described I would go with the 12 over the 10 if I had to do it all over again.
 
#9
The Wizzy 10 is quite midranged focused as mentioned; but, often that is what you want. You might prefer the extra down low sound when you are standing next to it on stage but by the time your sound mixes with the band and travels to the audience midrange may be preferable for mix and clarity. Bear in mind I do not have a DB. The closest thing I have is an Azola Bug Bass II EUB. Having said that the Wizzy 12 is not much larger or heavier and if I had to do it over I would forgo the 10 and get two Wizzy 12's.

edit: the back pack sure is handy with the Wizzy 10 & Micro in the pocket.

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edit: Mike Dimin is a TB member and endorsing artist for EA and very knowledgeable on the product
 
#10
I owned a Wizzy 10 for a short period of time, and if I had to do it all over again I would have hands down bought the 12(preferably Mline). The 10 was ridiculously light weight, but it didn't have the low end support I wanted when I needed it. It was good for small gigs, but I wasn't sold on it when the volume started to go up. Nice cab all the same. I would lean towards the 12. The Acme B1 is a fantastic sounding cabinet for DB. I regret selling mine almost more than any cab I have owned...
 
#11
Adrian Juras said:
I owned a Wizzy 10 for a short period of time, and if I had to do it all over again I would have hands down bought the 12(preferably Mline). The 10 was ridiculously light weight, but it didn't have the low end support I wanted when I needed it. It was good for small gigs, but I wasn't sold on it when the volume started to go up. Nice cab all the same. I would lean towards the 12. The Acme B1 is a fantastic sounding cabinet for DB. I regret selling mine almost more than any cab I have owned...
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Well I might just get an Acme B1 for now with the Micro head, and down the road get another B1 for bigger shows. 7 Years ago i had two VL110's and it seem like the Acmes remind me alot of the VL110 design
 
#12
I think they are similar, but they aren't quite the same sound wise. Acmes seem a little deeper sounding to me. They do need quite a bit of power to get them sounding right though. I used one with a Clarus and it was JUST enough.
 
#15
I owned a Micro 300 for a short while. While it sounded great, it was very underpowered. Supposedly 300 watts at 4 ohms, but my 250 watt Markbass head just blew it away. I imagine that the new version EA has now would have enough power. I might lean towards the Doubler though...
 
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i haven't used a Micro. i do have the Wizzy 10 and like its emphasis on mids, especially for a dark-sounding bass with Spiros on it. the Wizzy 12 is bigger in sound, also deeper. for an outside gig, i use both.

i just got a Doubler from Bob G., and it puts out a good round sound. but i find myself using the Doubler most often with the AI Ten2Ex. you might want to think about the Ten2Ex if you are concerned the Wizzy 10 isn't big enough. ahh, but the Ten2Ex doesn't come with a packback.
 
#17
BassGreaser said:
or i might just go with am Acme B1... options options
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My close friend KJung had one and although I liked it (it's really tiny) it really takes considerable power to light it up, not stupid power mind you but it's kind of a power hungry beast, much like the VL 110 you owned. It does sound very nice with the upright, but there are options now from Bergantino, Tech Amp, and the EA Wizzy M Line Adrian was mentioning.
If you're going to play upright through this rig then the Doubler is the way to go IMHO, not the Micro, since it has more headroom and all the controls you need to tame the Double Bass Beast (variable phase, variable notch, variable lo cut, and phantom power. Unless you want to buy all those outboard boxes to deal those issues. Believe me it's probably going to cost a lot more than the difference between the cost of the Micro and the Doubler. Just a thought.

Ric
 
#18
I have the Micro 300, a Wizzy 10 and two Wizzy 12s.

Also owned a B1 for a short time. Couldn't bond with the B1 and sold it quickly. It needed a lot more power than the Wizzy 10 and had a bigger bottom than I wanted, with not enough note definition.

I use the 10 for smaller restaurant gigs with my BugBass, the 12 for somewhat larger gigs, and take the pair of 12s when I play electric blues (and possibly double).

It's clear that cabs are a matter of taste, and my taste heads toward the EAs and away from the B1. If possible, listen to both brands with your own bass and amp.

And yes, no problems with running at 2 ohms. For bigger gigs, I bring out a Clarus head instead of the Micro 300.
 
#19
Ric Vice said:
My close friend KJung had one and although I liked it (it's really tiny) it really takes considerable power to light it up, not stupid power mind you but it's kind of a power hungry beast, much like the VL 110 you owned. It does sound very nice with the upright, but there are options now from Bergantino, Tech Amp, and the EA Wizzy M Line Adrian was mentioning.
If you're going to play upright through this rig then the Doubler is the way to go IMHO, not the Micro, since it has more headroom and all the controls you need to tame the Double Bass Beast (variable phase, variable notch, variable lo cut, and phantom power. Unless you want to buy all those outboard boxes to deal those issues. Believe me it's probably going to cost a lot more than the difference between the cost of the Micro and the Doubler. Just a thought.

Ric
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The Micro and the Doubler have exactly the same power section, so how does it have more headroom? The only difference is the notch and phase filter. My 400 watt WT400 powers my B1 4 ohm very nicely, so 550 watts from a Micro or Doubler should push it just fine. I like the B1 much better than the M Line I just sold or the Berg HT112ER I presently own for upright.
 
#20
Bass Junkie said:
The Micro and the Doubler have exactly the same power section, so how does it have more headroom? My 400 watt WT400 powers my B1 4 ohm very nicely, so 550 watts from a Micro or Doubler should push it just fine. I like the B1 much better than the M Line I just sold or the Berg HT112ER I presently own for upright.
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BJ,
Everything's good. I was referring to the older Micro that Adrian had mentioned in his earlier post. Sorry for the confusion. Indeed the new Micro and Doubler have identical power sections. As far as the B1 goes, it's a nice cabinet, but I prefer a different cabinet with my Walter Woods amps. Just goes to show us that what we use is pretty dependent on the the timbre of our individual basses and the type of pickup we use. I've also noticed that different amplifiers with the same power ratings don't always have the same loudness and variations between different manufactures' pre amp voicings are all over the place IME.

Ric
 

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