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Double Bass Looking for suggestions for small rigs (very small)

#63
Hi,

Have you ever considered AER products? I played (pizz and arco) their Basscube once and fell in love with it. The Basscube is very heavy, but I noticed they also produce active monitors. I haven't heard these before, but if they sound anything like the Basscube they might be worth considering IMHO.

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#64
I looked into the AER products a bit and the consensus seemed to be that the sound was quite coloured and not the hi-fi transparency I'm looking for. In any case, you won't believe this but I ended up buying a heavier rig - a Schertler Pub. I got one and found the sound is so much better than anything else - so much clearer especially in the lower register that I had to get one. So now I have something that weighs 44 lbs instead of the 27 lbs I had before! However I'm going to get a trolley to lug it around. The small size does mean however that it's pretty convenient to carry up and down stairs with the bass in the other hand. The weight just gets to be a pain for long distances and the trolley will solve that.
 
#66
Norre said:
Congratulations! I'm happy you find your holy grail ;)
Just curious ... exactly what AER products did you try?
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Hello your highness, recently I had the opportunity to tri the GD8, a very attrative, nice and light little box, but USELESS for DB amplification. This does not mean that other AER products could not be usefull, the (heavy and expensive) Bass Cube has quite a good reputation.
 
#67
Adrian Cho said:
I looked into the AER products a bit and the consensus seemed to be that the sound was quite coloured and not the hi-fi transparency I'm looking for. In any case, you won't believe this but I ended up buying a heavier rig - a Schertler Pub. I got one and found the sound is so much better than anything else - so much clearer especially in the lower register that I had to get one. So now I have something that weighs 44 lbs instead of the 27 lbs I had before! However I'm going to get a trolley to lug it around. The small size does mean however that it's pretty convenient to carry up and down stairs with the bass in the other hand. The weight just gets to be a pain for long distances and the trolley will solve that.
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Too bad that you did not (yet?) have had a change to compare the PUB to the SR-Technology stuff, especially the SR-Tech Club 300. It has the exact same specifications as the PUB, save for the fact that it is about half the weight of the PUB and 2/3 the price (At least in Europe)! Does anybody have any experience with the SR stuff?

Vincent
 
#68
Vunz said:
Too bad that you did not (yet?) have had a change to compare the PUB to the SR-Technology stuff, especially the SR-Tech Club 300. It has the exact same specifications as the PUB, save for the fact that it is about half the weight of the PUB and 2/3 the price (At least in Europe)! Does anybody have any experience with the SR stuff?
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To answer a few questions here. I didn't have a chance to try any AER products but they are not available in my area and I read a few reviews that turned me off them.

I had a chance to exchange e-mail with one of the guys at SR Technology and I just sent him an e-mail to confirm a couple of things but bear this in mind:

From what I could tell, although SR Tech does not distribute right now to North America, they might begin next year. At this time they seem willing to sell direct to customers here at discounted prices.

The documentation on SR Tech's website for the Jam Combo turned out to have incorrect weights listed. It turned out to be almost twice as heavy. I wonder (and have asked) if the weight listed for the Club 300/A is also a mistake. If is not, consider this:

SR Tech told me that the reason the Pub is so heavy is the oversized magnets on the woofer. The speaker is apparently specially designed for the Pub. This feature is apparently what gives the Pub the control and definition that it has. As Monte pointed out, in terms of weight (to size) and performance, the Pub is quite similar to a studio near-field monitor.

Even though this is no longer on the topic of small rigs, you might also be interested to know that according to Lou Roten (who used to run Schertler US and now is an independent Schertler dealer) that the Pub is likely to be withdrawn from the US (and possibly Canadian) markets because the dealers and Schertler can't come to an agreement on the price (Schertler would like to sell it at a higher price). I myself am purchasing a slightly used demo model Pub from a local dealer at a discount. The prediction is that once the inventories are emptied then the product will no longer be available here (at least through local dealers anyway).
 
#71
I should also mention that at 974 Euro (according to the price list on SR Technology's web site) that the Club 300/A is actually a fair bit more expensive than the retail price of the Pub 2/280 in the US. Which might explain why Schertler are not happy with the price of the Pub in the US.
 
#72
Adrian Cho said:
I should also mention that at 974 Euro (according to the price list on SR Technology's web site) that the Club 300/A is actually a fair bit more expensive than the retail price of the Pub 2/280 in the US. Which might explain why Schertler are not happy with the price of the Pub in the US.
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Actually, in Europe the retail price of the SR Club 300/A is about 700 Euros, whereas the street price of the Schertler Pub in Europe is around 1,200 Euros. That is why I am/was rather jealous of you guys at the other side of the ocean: Our stuff is cheaper on your continent than on ours... (Except for Glockenklang, that is)

Vincent

EDIT: That perhaps sounded nastier than I meant it to be. Oh well...
 

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