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losing weight

#101
spade2you said:
Wow. So much misinformation right there, kiddo.
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I'm interested, condecending epithets aside. Will you please spend the time to refute aborgman's central point and cite your source?

What he's saying seems to make sence to me. If you put less sand in a bag than you take out of the bag, you're going to end up with a lighter bag of sand. Why wouldn't eating less food than you're working off end up making you lighter?
 
#102
ZachOrem said:
Why wouldn't eating less food than you're working off end up making you lighter?
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It does...My wife and I living proof, and I posted the pics to prove it...We lost that weight with NO excercise, as we're just too damn lazy....Rather than spend two hours or whatever excercising, we'd much rather spend that time putting miles under our butts on the motorcycle....

How's that for honesty??..LOL...:p


You guys are making this waaaaaaay more complicated than it is with your constant debate about it...:rolleyes:
 
#103
ZachOrem said:
Why wouldn't eating less food than you're working off end up making you lighter?
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There are plenty of reasons. Overstressing the body can lead to cortisol levels increased, which can change how effective the body's insulin can work.

Overdoing the caloric defecit can change the metabolism to a starvation state. This may also be combined with the cortisol problems from above, but the overall daily requirement adjusts to a relatively neutral balance to compensate.

Workouts with more glycogen burn than fat burn will cause hunger or hypoglycemia, which either causes eating to compensate or cause other endocrine issues.

I could go on, but finding the correct balance can be challenging and can potentially work against the goals. This doesn't even pertain to fitness.

So, yes, the little details matter. There are no shortcuts and most people will end up failing due to taking the shortcuts or not being patient enough for the long way.
 
#104
spade2you said:
There are plenty of reasons. Overstressing the body can lead to cortisol levels increased, which can change how effective the body's insulin can work.

Overdoing the caloric defecit can change the metabolism to a starvation state. This may also be combined with the cortisol problems from above, but the overall daily requirement adjusts to a relatively neutral balance to compensate.

Workouts with more glycogen burn than fat burn will cause hunger or hypoglycemia, which either causes eating to compensate or cause other endocrine issues.

I could go on, but finding the correct balance can be challenging and can potentially work against the goals. This doesn't even pertain to fitness.

So, yes, the little details matter. There are no shortcuts and most people will end up failing due to taking the shortcuts or not being patient enough for the long way.
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If you are pushing it to the extent of hypoglycemia, you are either eating far too little (ontop of working too hard) or you should get checked for diabetes! You can burn out the glycogen, but it is replaced pretty rapidly, and the energy required to replace it doesn't come out of nowhere so it will work towards weight loss, just not in the optimal manner.

FWIW I was losing 7lbs a week on just a controlled diet, weights 3-4x a week with a 10-15 minute intense cardio workout. Admittedly not ideal, but it works when you can't spare an hour+ per day for cardio!

I wouldn't recommend it, but it does work.
 
#105
i_got_a_mohawk said:
If you are pushing it to the extent of hypoglycemia, you are either eating far too little (ontop of working too hard) or you should get checked for diabetes! You can burn out the glycogen, but it is replaced pretty rapidly, and the energy required to replace it doesn't come out of nowhere so it will work towards weight loss, just not in the optimal manner.

FWIW I was losing 7lbs a week on just a controlled diet, weights 3-4x a week with a 10-15 minute intense cardio workout. Admittedly not ideal, but it works when you can't spare an hour+ per day for cardio!

I wouldn't recommend it, but it does work.
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One can't forget that people with a lot of weight to lose are often classified as diabetic or pre-diabetic. When cutting carbs and hitting the gym for some nutso high intensity workout, you do risk hypoglycemia if you don't eat.

Most fad or quick weight loss programs will offer some initial weight loss, but it's very easy to pleateau or go back to the initial weight. The simple programs can rarely yield the long term results of a well thought out and LONG TERM program.
 
#110
Nothing I can tell you that you can't read at burnthefat.com.

To paraphrase,

Dieting makes your body think it's starving so you tend to burn your muscle tissue. Eating lots of little meals with protein and low fat content keeps your body from feeling starvartion even though your calorie intake is less than your expenditure on a moderate training programme.

Alcohol stops you burning fat.

You can't lose hardly 2 lb a week or it's muscle that you're losing.

On Tom Venuto's programme you eat very well and exercise 6 days a week.
 
#113
my experience:

I stopped drinking soda of any kind, diet, zero coke etc. I noticed the change in my belly within the first 3 weeks.

I reduced dramatically my drinking habits. from 3 beers at day to 1 at month.

I stopped eating crap: panninis, mcdonald, pasta, sandwiches etc.

I started having 6 meal per day: coffe , cereal, fruit, salad-beef- chicken-fish, healthy snak, light dinner.

I started a routine of 40 minutes cardio at least 3 times at week.

The most important thing: I did not set any goals, I just changed the way I was eating-living. I lost 25 pounds in one year, I feel great now.

I will start adding weight lifting to my routine sometime this month.

July 2010
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Feb 2011
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#116
thanks guys, I was so involved in my job routine: 20 hours per day, travelling all the time which mean drinkin and eating as a pig, finally last year and after saw some pictures I decided that I could not live like that, I used to be 60 kilos till I was 27, then I went up to 95 !!! .. I am 70 now with 21 BMI.. feel better than ever,
 
#117
There was a comment made about not having an hour for cardio, what I find effective if I don't have the time is 5x200 jump rope with ~60-80 seconds of rest in between depending on the person. Usually takes 12-15ish minutes like what i_got_a_mohawk was talking about.
 
#119
Hey guys. I've been doing the low carb thing for a couple months and am down about 15 lbs. I've been limiting myself to one carb portion (usually half of what I used to eat-- 1/2 cup of rice vs. 1cup or more), usually for dinner. We did a Weight Watchers thing a few years ago and I lost 30 pounds, but have since put it back. My goal is 199lbs., my heaviest was about 240, and am 5'10".

I cook at our house (my wife does not cook), so it's been pretty easy for meal prep. The only thing that has come up for me is horrible, horrible muscle spasms/cramps in my feet & legs in the last couple days. seems to common for low carb dieters. I thought taking my multivitamin was doing the trick, but upon closer look, it only has 2 % RDA of Calcium and Potassium! ***!? My wife doesn't take her cal/pot suppliments, so we have a surplus. I also eat a couple bananas a day, almonds and raisins are my midday snack, and we eat chicken and turkey 9 times out of 10--the other time would be salmon, so I'm surprised by the cramps. In the immortal words of Roseanne Roseanna Danna, "I thought I was gunna die!"

Any other low carbers who have the muscle cramps? If so, how do you deal with them?
 

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