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LOUD..going...going....GONE

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Peavey?

maybe.

How many contract riders read "no Ampeg"?

I've seen plenty that read "no Peavey"......

That says not much about the companies, and more about prejudices.......... but....... Then it DOES SAY SOMETHING about the PRODUCT, or perception of same.

I don't say I agree. There is a lot of good Peavey gear......
 
The entire reason SLM was successful with Ampeg was because the people cared. It wasn't the best product in Ampeg's history, and they didn't always make the brightest decisions, but they cared and they tried hard, and musicians appreciated it.

I'm from St. Louis and once upon a time I almost accepted a position at the Ampeg shop (when it was owned by SLM). In fact, the first interview question was "Do you play bass?" I was very proud to say that Ampegs were made right here in my hometown, by the same guys that played at the same bars as I did. As a bass player here, LOUD's disrespect of the Ampeg name hurts on an almost personal level, nevermind seeing your fellow local musicians lose their jobs due to overseas outsourcing.

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but why did LOUD buy out SLM in the first place? Was it really because SLM was so successful that the owners felt it was time to liquidate? Or was SLM leaving a sinking ship?
 
Peavey?

maybe.

How many contract riders read "no Ampeg"?

I've seen plenty that read "no Peavey"......

That says not much about the companies, and more about prejudices.......... but....... Then it DOES SAY SOMETHING about the PRODUCT, or perception of same.

I don't say I agree. There is a lot of good Peavey gear......

As far as I can tell, ALL Peavey gear is good, any perception otherwise is a myth perpetuated by certain boutique people...
 
As far as I can tell, ALL Peavey gear is good, any perception otherwise is a myth perpetuated by certain boutique people...
Weeeelllllll...there was a time in the 70's and early 80's that it most definitely wasn't a myth. Peavey gear was crap back then. But they've made great strides starting in the mid-80's, and now I consider Peavey to be pretty good stuff. I hate that pointy logo, though ;)
 
I hate that pointy logo, though ;)

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OK Guys, time to fess up! How many of you bought a Peavey product and the minute you got it home .... pulled off that logo and on the older stuff, those ugly aluminum stripes on the sides of the cabinets too?

On the other hand, I never pulled the Ampeg logo's off any of their stuff I owned.

I will add that any Peavey gear I've owned through the years and there have been several items, was always reliable. It might not have looked the best or had the best tone, but it held up.

If Peavey were to snatch up Ampeg, it might not be a bad thing. At least they would appreciate the long time heritage of the Ampeg brand. I've stated before that FMIC would also be a good choice to pick up Ampeg.

I WILL be interesting to see how this ends.

Keep Low :bassist:
 
I hear both sides of this too. Lotsa negatives in the financials, crapola communication to the guys that matter - THE BASS PUBLIC! - but I am seeing recent personnel moves and yes, additions to staff, that don't look like the ones a company would make when they are ready to shut down. Still working on the report...and awaiting specifics...

Really interested in reading BGM issue #4. When will it be released?
 
You think the pointy Peavey logo is bad, have you seen the headstocks of their newer basses? No logo at all! Just Hartley's horrible signature. You couldn't tell what kind of bass it was without an owners manual. They went for quite awhile with a newer squared off lettering, spelled out pretty plainly. It looked kind of industrial, I liked it.
 
I love my T-40 but I have to agree with Jimmy...the Peavey logo is horrendous. Why they haven't taken a cue from Marshall or Ampeg and designed something more classic looking is beyond me.
They did on some products. But now they're back to the pointy logo pretty much full time. Sorry but it always makes me think of southern rock ;)
 
Sorry but it always makes me think of southern rock ;)

JimmyM

How could you possibly think that?

Peavey Electronics Corporation
5022 Hartley Peavey Drive
Meridian, MS 39305

I really do think the logo is somewhat outdated now and just as ugly as ever.
 

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There's nothing wrong with being a private company.

Less people to screw it up based on greed and intent to grow then sell regardless of health of the company. IMHO private companies are more responsible than public ones.

You'll get an amen from me on that. This could be just THE disruption in a bad pattern that puts the Mackie and Ampeg brands in the hands of people that care more. Let the great stuff endure and the weak stuff fall by the wayside. Oh, and let the little guys doing great stuff get their foot in the door!
 
why did LOUD buy out SLM in the first place? Was it really because SLM was so successful that the owners felt it was time to liquidate? Or was SLM leaving a sinking ship?

I'm not going to worry about why, but I can remember being able to call directly at SLM and speak to the same person about a specific model (in my case, the SVT400T) and I could get support like I'd never dreamed. Replacement manuals, emails, phone calls, you name it. With Loud? Best of luck.

As a person that is most interested in their older products, I noticed a huge change in the switch from SLM to LOUD. LOUD's website is really only about supporting the sales of their new stuff. A note to the next prospective owner of the Ampeg brand: We are a passionate cult. Give us the low end power and thunder we've always known:bassist:, and customer service for new and old products, and you own us.
 
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OK Guys, time to fess up! How many of you bought a Peavey product and the minute you got it home .... pulled off that logo and on the older stuff, those ugly aluminum stripes on the sides of the cabinets too?


Oh, I definitely have - and you'd be amazed at the number of musicians who've been shocked after listening to "unbadged" Peavey when they asked, and I told them what I was playing through...

*Some* people need to listen more with their ears than with their eyes...



- georgestrings
 
As far as I can tell, ALL Peavey gear is good, any perception otherwise is a myth perpetuated by certain boutique people...

The THD in many Peaveys was noticeable. At hush volumes my TNT sounded exactly like a Tan tolex Fender. Turn it up to play with others Oh My! Distortion. Their PA would add distortion upon distortion from each component to the next to the speakers and it was not good.
One of the best bass sounds I've heard was a Peavey 1x18 folded horn with a 2x12 Fender Bassman cab the small one on top with JBL D120s and the Century Bass head. Really fine.
They don't need defending. Boutique people, whoever they are, aren't thinking about Peavey.

If it's about cost most manufacturers design for a price point. Some make stuff for several price points. Peavey's existence allowed a lot of folks to play music on the cheap. There is no defending SWR's working man series as being as good as the Pro because it isn't. You get what you can afford. Perhaps you buy less expensive gear because you are working your way through Harvard law school. Then when you make the big bucks you buy what you want. Who cares. Priorities trump what others think. I don't cotton though to someone saying unit A is just as good as unit B when the quality of the components in unit B is significantly higher, built to better specs, greater tolerances etc. If you can't hear the difference that's one thing yet it may sound much better to someone else.

I've played a large Peavey combo that's about 5 years old. Half the notes I played never came out and I'm still waiting. :) It was not capable of reproducing all the notes coming from my bass.

You err when you say ALL because that's the beginning of the end for your argument. All men do this, All women do that.
I know about those riders. Peavey has some great gear now.
 
I personally never had good luck with Peavey, but that's just me. I do remember when they first hit the market. I was working and performing in a "Battle of the Bands", three groups showed up with brand new Peavey stuff. All three bands scrambled for equipment to finish their sets when it blew up. A tough beginning that they learned from (to their credit).
 
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