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Low-cost DIY practice/coffeehouse tweeterless 110 [long]

#624
Yeah, I knew the price on neo's went up, but didn't realize that much.
So the search continues....so far the Eden EX110 is the least expensive cab I've come across. But perhaps not the best. I really
can't say since I can't do a side by side plug and play comparison.
But getting back to neo, in a single 10" cab, will the weight really matter that much...?
 
#626
hdracer said:
I just built one of these cabs. I got the speaker for $120 with free shipping.
I had a lot of the smaller parts so I have about $150 into it.

It is is a GREAT little cab for the money.
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Yeah, I luckily bought two of the speakers before the price increase for $74.97 each. I put together one cabinet, and it was easy to do, and it sounded pretty good, so I built another.
 
#628
CosmicRay said:
Yeah, I knew the price on neo's went up, but didn't realize that much.
So the search continues....so far the Eden EX110 is the least expensive cab I've come across. But perhaps not the best. I really
can't say since I can't do a side by side plug and play comparison.
But getting back to neo, in a single 10" cab, will the weight really matter that much...?
Click to expand...
I don't think that speaker was chosen because of weight, but rather because of the way that particular speaker performed in that cabinet.
 
#630
I've been following this for some time now (thanks to all). I've tried messing with WINISD but there seems to be many more parameters than are usually available. I was trying several other PE drivers to see if I could figure out an inexpensive alternative driver without success since I don't understand WINISD.

My bass amp needs are quite modest but I'm thinking that a nice 1x10 8 ohm cab with the 75w amp I have could be built again when I get a real bass amp (4 ohm/200w).

Any ideas?

BTW, who sells the Eden EX110? I cannot seem to find them on The Net. Are they special order?
 
#632
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#635
n4vgm said:
I've been following this for some time now (thanks to all). I've tried messing with WINISD but there seems to be many more parameters than are usually available. I was trying several other PE drivers to see if I could figure out an inexpensive alternative driver without success since I don't understand WINISD.

My bass amp needs are quite modest but I'm thinking that a nice 1x10 8 ohm cab with the 75w amp I have could be built again when I get a real bass amp (4 ohm/200w).

Any ideas?

BTW, who sells the Eden EX110? I cannot seem to find them on The Net. Are they special order?
Click to expand...

They're on backorder from Amazon....Eden EX1108 EX Series Bass Cabinet
but available soon.
 
#636
Step 1) Launch Notepad
Step 2) Paste in this bit between the line of '=' signs

==================================================================
[Driver]
Brand=Em
Model=10 Basslite s2010
Manufacturer=Em
ProvidedBy=greenboy
Comment=3.5 pounds
DateAdded=20070205
DateModified=20070205
Qts=0.313800739909388
Znom=8
Fs=46.175532378666
Pe=150
SPL=94.6237824697402
Re=5.02
Le=0
fLe=0
KLe=0
BL=11.9
Xmax=0.004
Cms=0.00036
Qms=4.16
Qes=0.339402872744638
Rms=2.30150747056812
Mms=0.033
Sd=0.03501
Vas=0.06259380756678
Dia=0
Vd=0.00014004
no=0.0176576508735569
Dd=0.211130567330214
EBP=136.049326881826
numVC=1
Hc=0
Hg=0
SPLmax=113.384695060297
SPLmaxLF=83.4894536417008
USPL=96.6524740087758
alfaVC=0
Rt=0
Ct=0
gamma=360.606060606061
Rme=28.2091633466136
Mpow=5.31122992786168
Mcost=0
Gloss=0.0291257505
VCCon=1
c=343.684120962152
roo=1.20095217714682
Thick=0
Depth=0
MagDepth=0
Magnet=0
Basket=0
Outer=0
Vcd=0
DVol=0
ParState=CCECENNNEENEECCCEECCNCCENNCCCNNNCCCCNCNNNNNNNNNCC
==================================================================

Step 3) Save the file as "Em 10 Basslite s2010.wdr".

Step 4) Copy it to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Linearteam\WinISD Pro\Drivers" if in Win7 x64 or "C:\Program Files\Linearteam\WinISD Pro\Drivers" if in an x86 copy of Windows.

Model to your heart's content. I like 1.25 ft^3 and about 55 Hz tuning, but of course the cab Duke recommended is the whole point of this thread.

KO
 
#637
I've had a bit of trouble finding any other Eminence 10 I wanted to use as a woofer in a bass cab. I'm sure there's something out there, but I like what the S2010 looks like in WinISD and I really like what it does in my little 1973 Traynor BassMate practice amp.

KO
 
#638
Turock said:
I don't think that speaker was chosen because of weight, but rather because of the way that particular speaker performed in that cabinet.
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That's correct, at the time the Basslite S2010 seemed like the most promising reasonably-priced option for that particular off-the-shelf, inexpensive car subwoofer box. It's hard to find a 10" ceramic woofer that's not going to be boomy in a vented box that small.
 
#639
Duke,
First let me say thanks for the original posting. As a builder of my own speaker cabs, I was very interested in this thread. However, I'll apologize now for repeating something or missing something... I got to page 10 of the thread and fell asleep. So, I jumped to the end and decided to post.

Over four years ago I bought 4 of the 12" ported cabs from PE. I installed an Eminence Delta Pro 12A in each, stuck grills on the front, put jack plates on in each, lined them with 1.5" poly fiber, added handles and corners, and away I went. I've used them ever since. Sound just fine. About 2 years ago I bought 2 Eminence 3012LF speakers and put them into 2 of these cabs. My typical bass rig is, then, 2 of the boxes with the Delta Pro 12A speakers and 2 boxes with the 3012LF speakers. Awesome. I drive them with a Carvin BX500 (which I've had since it was first released and it works great... and into a 2 ohm load). Anyway, these cabs are a terrific match for the 3012LF as Duke said. I will admit that I don't baby the cabs and they are all still in one piece and keep pumping out the bottom end. I did add 2 LeSon piezo tweeters to one of the cabs (w/ Delta Pro 12A) that are crossed over at 3kHz. I installed an on-off toggle switch. I never use the tweeters because the Delta Pro 12A speakers give me enough top end. (I use Warrior basses which deliver a lot of top end if you want it).

Anyway, just thought I'd chime in on this posting since I've done the PE pre-made cabinet thing. I've included a photo. The top two cabs have the Delta Pros in them and the bottom two have the 3012LFs in them.

MainBassRig.jpg
 
#640
"Model to your heart's content. I like 1.25 ft^3 and about 55 Hz tuning, but of course the cab Duke recommended is the whole point of this thread."

Thanks Kraigo!

I may use this as a template with other speakers to learn how it works. I would not mind a heavier cab if I can use an inexpensive driver.
 

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