Even though I have had hardware issues, mac is still the computer for me. all the pro apps im running make it a necessity for work.
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Maybe it's like bassist forums: Players with generic gear don't tend to speak up about it. Of course another possibility is that happy customers tend to speak up more than angry customers.
Apple's marketing of the Mac has always been adversarial, starting with the "Big Brother" ad. The published long lists of talking points against Microsoft. They also practically invented viral marketing. In the 90's, Apple hired marketeers who they referred to as "evangelists."
Disclaimer: I was a Mac user in the 1990s, and even sold hardware / software products for the Mac. Today, I am tied to no platform. Virtually all of the software that I use will run on any platform.
um.....You click on the right hand side of the mouse.
A mac user might look at a PC mouse and ask: How do I scroll sideways.
And then there's ease of use. Note how many steps to connect to wifi at McD's for Win vs Mac.
Or Control + click.
um.....You click on the right hand side of the mouse.
Or Control + click.
And then there's ease of use. Note how many steps to connect to wifi at McD's for Win vs Mac.
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That is hilarious.
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warnergt said:
Well as we've seen here, Mac users are probably disproportionately emphatic about their love of the Mac. It's not a huge leap to think they may also be less inclined to report problems or to complain.
My dad is completely computer illiterate. He bought the first gen iMac. It crashed all the time, was very unstable. Then he bought another iMac (G5?). A week later Apple dumped that architecture and switched to Intel. That iMac died about 6 months ago.
My first iPhone 4 had a faulty proximity sensor that caused all kinds of weird problems like disconnected calls etc (google it, it was a very common problem).
I guess my point is I'm not all that receptive to the oft-claimed reliability and overall awesomeness of Apple hardware.
I am composing this on another iPhone 4 though. See, I'm open-minded.
Competition is good for consumers though. Keeps MS, Apple etc on their collective toes toes.
That's a bit of a cheap shot. I'm no Windows fanboy, but I'm pretty sure that the instructions given for Windows are unnecessarily elaborate. Windows has a thingy in the lower right corner with pretty much the same functionality as the pull-down shown for Apple.
Also, Ubuntu has a similar pull-down and roughly the same number of steps as Apple.
I think that's true of computer users in general, because of the tacit assumption that problems are our fault for choosing the wrong stuff or not using it correctly.
Nobody likes to admit that they let a virus spread to every computer in their house, like I once did.
That's a bit of a cheap shot. I'm no Windows fanboy, but I'm pretty sure that the instructions given for Windows are unnecessarily elaborate. Windows has a thingy in the lower right corner with pretty much the same functionality as the pull-down shown for Apple.
Also, Ubuntu has a similar pull-down and roughly the same number of steps as Apple.
Not really, if you already have wifi on you can skip step 1. in the Mac directions. Step 2: Select McD's Network. Step 3: Open browser. Done.
I don't know how factual this is but my opinion is that about 10 to 15 years ago the corporate IT departments more or less drove the Mac out of the business world in favor of PCs (which may or may not be because they require more hardware and software support - can you say job security?). This drove the Mac user base to mostly home and educational markets. But since most home purchase decisions are largely made on cost (due to tight budgets) and most corporate workers had PCs at work a large percentage of the home computers eventually went PC as well. The educational camp hung in there and eventually kids grew up using Macs and other Apple products at school along with iPhone, iPod and iTunes at home. Several computer generations of buyers remorse by PC home users trying to make PCs work without the support of an IT department (hence offerings like Geek Squad) really tainted a lot of home users on continuing to use PCs. At the same time sleek styling, sales and marketing approaches were being leveraged by Apple. Companies like IBM, HP, Compaq, Dell, Gateway etc. all started having profit margin and subsequent quality and business problems in the PC market as they tried to out do eachother on offering the cheapest computers.
I'm currently seeing a large influx of new college grads entering the corporate workplace and asking "where's my Mac". The corporate IT professionals are starting to buckle to the HR departmens and are now allowing Macs back in the work place (about time!). Time will tell if this is a good move, but based on the significantly higher number of PC repairs vs Mac repairs I see at work I'd guess the Mac will reach pairity with the PC in the corporate world within the next 10 years. The group to keep your eye on is the Finance departments, they will eventually weigh in on the value of a more expensive initial purchase like a Mac and if it's actually offset by reductions in the IT labor required to trouble shoot and repair and replace traditional PCs and related software.
Surely no one believe this is standard procedure when connecting to a wireless network. Looks more like a troubleshooting guide to me.
Honestly it seems as through PC's problems are often exaggerated to make other systems look more favorable.
It's worth looking at MacOS History:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/History_of_Mac_OS
There was a time period when System 7 was in serious decline, but Apple had not released OS X. System 7.5 had massive networking and stability problems. Also, during this time period, Apple publicly announced that they were going to focus on their core markets in education and the arts while turning away from business and engineering.
Meanwhile, Windows NT came on board, and looked like a more stable and future-proof development platform. An additional breakthrough during that time period was Visual Basic, which was the killer app for small scale custom development. I think that Apple never recognized the importance of custom software. In my view, Apple made things too hard for developers.
In the engineering world, MacOS became a desert.
No argument from me.
I know people who, when they have any problem with their computer, take the entire thing -- display and all -- to Best Buy, and have it fixed.
What you are really doing is projecting your individual experience to the population as a whole... There is simply no comparison between OS X (unix/FreeBSD) and any version of Windows (patchwork quilt of bad code). I could care less about the hardware, but I'm at a point in my life where I'll pay more for quality software. Running a Mac is like running Linux but everything just works
btw, my first computer was a Timex Sinclair 1000
I've been through Commodore Vic 20s and 64s, XTs ATs, Linux, FreeBSD, every version of Windows and several Macs, so I'm not just some uninformed newbie.
Anything prior to OS X is a completely different OS. Who cares about pre BSD Mac OSs?
That's irrelevant, how many Mac users would be caught dead hanging out at Mickey D's? Spending hours at Starbucks with a string of $5 lattes, now that's Mac territory.
And then there's ease of use. Note how many steps to connect to wifi at McD's for Win vs Mac.
Or Control + click.
That's irrelevant, how many Mac users would be caught dead hanging out at Mickey D's? Spending hours at Starbucks with a string of $5 lattes, now that's Mac territory.
I eat at McDonalds regularly -- love the Big Mac -- and I hate Kenny G and don't drink coffee
Guys, guys, guys. You're going about it all wrong.
(PC/Mac) is always better. For every person, in every situation.
"What about-"
No, shut up. Always. Better. I would know, I own one. I guy I met who knows computers told me once, too. Everyone else is stupid.
Also, (Jazz/Precision) basses are the best, I don't care what you say.
(PC/Mac) is always better. For every person, in every situation.
"What about-"
No, shut up. Always. Better. I would know, I own one. I guy I met who knows computers told me once, too. Everyone else is stupid.
Also, (Jazz/Precision) basses are the best, I don't care what you say.
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