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air_leech said:
because it isn't really an equivalent hardware (Apple's hardware tolerance against declared specs is the most demanding of any company)
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Evidence? See above for reliability data. The idea that Apple buys special parts seems like an urban myth, or viral marketing. Most computer interface standards are designed to allow a fairly wide tolerance for variation from nominal specs, so tight tolerances don't necessarily translate to higher quality or reliability.

forgot one more thing - new OS versions can be downloaded for 29.99$ and you don't have to backup and format your hard drive prior to installing.
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New OS versions should be free. :hiding:

Don't get me wrong -- I consider a PC to be a platform for running Linux.
 
#85
Mac all the way. Higher reliability, security, the list goes on. I bought my first Mac (a MacBook) back in 2007. Yeah, it's had it's problems, but that is because I let the family use it. (Why I have a MacBook Pro and a Mac Mini all to my own now :) )

One day the screen just went blank. The MacBook wouldn't turn on. I called Apple up in the afternoon, received a box the next day for FedEx Next Day Air. I received the laptop back in 2 days, in top notch working condition. The customer service is outstanding.

Now before that, I had a top of the line HP. The power jack came loose and broke the solder joints on the motherboard. I had to travel an hour to BestBuy because HP wouldn't send a box to ship it directly to them. I got the laptop back in 2 1/2 weeks, and a week later, the jack broke again. I quickly traded it for a PowerMac G4.

So the point is: If you have the money to spend, GET A MAC. If you don't, get a PC and learn how to use it very well.
 
#87
PC's (popular brands like HP, Dell...) are to Macs as a Fiat is to a BMW. Sure you can get the Fiat cheaper and it can be fun to drive and some Fiat models can even keep up with some BMW models thru the twistys but you better be prepared to fix, replace or upgrade it a lot more frequently than you ever would the Mac and while you're at it don't forget the resale value of a 3 year old PC is about the same as a brick.

I've had both PC's and Macs in my house for decades (and have owned Fiats and BMWs). When you buy a PC you cross your fingers and hope you got a good one, when you buy a Mac it really doesn't matter, the quality control is very high and the customer service (if you buy it at a Mac store) is even higher. There are some brands in the PC world worth looking at but they cost nearly as much as a Mac and who knows if the brand will even be here 3 years down the road when you decide to upgrade to the next operating system and find out half your hardware and software isn't compatible.

Save a buck and buy a PC or spend a buck on a Mac and have a computer that's actually enjoyable and care free to use.
 
#88
I stand with my homey GBassNorth. I work with both and have owned both for years. My personal computer is a Mac. Dell laptop for work. Mac wins hands down in my experience, but it really depends on what your daughter wants. What computers did her elementary and high schools have? She may have a preference.
 
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Rickenhofner45 said:
Now before that, I had a top of the line HP. The power jack came loose and broke the solder joints on the motherboard. I had to travel an hour to BestBuy because HP wouldn't send a box to ship it directly to them. I got the laptop back in 2 1/2 weeks, and a week later, the jack broke again. I quickly traded it for a PowerMac G4.
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I do a TON of those repairs, followed closely by cooling fan dust bunny unclogs and outright replacements. I learned about the power jacks by breaking the one on my 2 yr old Toshiba laptop by gasp...... Using it. A couple hours, some googling for the disassembly manual to find the hidden screws some prayer while unsoldering and soldering the new one and a 35 cent part later it was good to go until it broke again. What an awful design.
 
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jkramer5 said:
I do a TON of those repairs, followed closely by cooling fan dust bunny unclogs and outright replacements. I learned about the power jacks by breaking the one on my 2 yr old Toshiba laptop by gasp...... Using it. A couple hours, some googling for the disassembly manual to find the hidden screws some prayer while unsoldering and soldering the new one and a 35 cent part later it was good to go until it broke again. What an awful design.
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I suppose that's how they make up for the computers being so cheap, eh? All the repairs they do, and selling replacement parts. It's just like how cell phones start magically acting up right as your two year agreement is ending. :rollno:
 
#93
Disclosure: I admit to being a longtime Windows user. I make my living supporting various versions of Windows operating systems.

The thing that always confounds me when the Mac vs. PC issue comes up on a public forum support is always ALWAYS overwhelmingly in favor of the Mac and OS X. It's as if 90% of all users posting are running Macs. It's a landslide for the Mac every time.

But if we look at actual market share, Windows has something comfortably north of 80% of the desktop market.

OS X has somewhere between 8% and 10% of the market depending on whose numbers you look at.

Can anyone explain this phenomena?

I swear I am not trolling. I am genuinely baffled as to why Windows users either don't speak up in proportion to their numbers in the wild, or maybe they say they're running something other than Windows out of some kind of guilt or shame or something.
 
#95
Could the percentage have something to do with institutional usage and not accurately represent personal users as much? Lots of schools, hospitals, libraries, universities buy PC for their labs, etc. I bet way less institutional purchases of Macs. I don't really know, just guessing.
 
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N.F.A. said:
Could the percentage have something to do with institutional usage and not accurately represent personal users as much? Lots of schools, hospitals, libraries, universities buy PC for their labs, etc. I bet way less institutional purchases of Macs. I don't really know, just guessing.
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That's probably true but I'm too lazy to look up the numbers. ;) It just seems like Mac supporters are far more vocal on public forums, way out of proportion to their actual numbers. You'd think the market share numbers would have to be reversed from what they actually are. *shrug*
 
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OldDog52 said:
Disclosure: I admit to being a longtime Windows user. I make my living supporting various versions of Windows operating systems.

The thing that always confounds me when the Mac vs. PC issue comes up on a public forum support is always ALWAYS overwhelmingly in favor of the Mac and OS X. It's as if 90% of all users posting are running Macs. It's a landslide for the Mac every time.

But if we look at actual market share, Windows has something comfortably north of 80% of the desktop market.

OS X has somewhere between 8% and 10% of the market depending on whose numbers you look at.

Can anyone explain this phenomena?

I swear I am not trolling. I am genuinely baffled as to why Windows users either don't speak up in proportion to their numbers in the wild, or maybe they say they're running something other than Windows out of some kind of guilt or shame or something.
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Actually those numbers have doubled over the last 12 months. Personally I think it's a good thing that most people use PCs. When the majority of people start using Macs, you will start seeing viruses becoming a problem.
 
#100
I own or have owned 7 or 8 of them and never had a problem. My FIL has 11-15 PCs all up and running the net at any given time. They were all built by him. He's happy, he likes to fix stuff. He bought a Mac, had it 2 days and gave it to my daughter. lol
 
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