Yes, he does. But being a jerk about it is just going to make it worse.
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Mad man shows up at practice -scary times!
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Yes, he does. But being a jerk about it is just going to make it worse.
I have a strong aversion to confrontation ... so personally, I'd be gone from that practice space.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Ok, contact the group 22Kill. They're a nationwide group who provides REAL HELP to veterans with issues. Unlike the VA. I'm trying to find you a direct contact. I'll PM you if I find one. This guy needs help, and he needs it now.
Possibly not. However, they are equipped to deal with aggressive and threatening behavior, as they do this every day. They are also more likely to know who is equipped to deal with it, more so than a bunch of musicians just trying to get in some rehearsal time. There's a pretty good chance that this would not be their first encounter with veteran PTSD. They'll also be in the loop, which will be helpful should the situation escalate.
I see a later post from the OP that he has now contacted them.
By "Mad Man," are you referring to a Fifth Avenue advertising account exec from the '50s. Because that would be weird. Really weird.
Right, that makes sense. Have a gunfight over a rehearsal space. Derp.
My "real job" is being the police. Decent size city. Though at work they all joke that it's my side job next to music. Anyways, 911 responders have many vets in their ranks. I can say at least where I'm from, there is a huge awareness of PTSD, and a lot of training on how to spot it. We have on call military liason officers that are a phone call away 24/7. We have a lot of resources available these days to help those folks.
In a nutshell, to stabilize the situation, 911 is probably a good bet. At the very least to ensure everyone's safety. And hopefully to accurately determine what's going on and take appropriate action. Sometimes our returning heroes fall by the wayside and aren't aware of the resources available. We can often fast track those connections.
In a nutshell, to stabilize the situation, 911 is probably a good bet. At the very least to ensure everyone's safety. And hopefully to accurately determine what's going on and take appropriate action. Sometimes our returning heroes fall by the wayside and aren't aware of the resources available. We can often fast track those connections.
I assume he meant to bring a gun just in case the guy also had one. More for self defense than a duel
"When we alter our behavior out of fear, the terrorists win."
REALLY bad wording, Dude. The LAST thing you should EVER call a vet is that.
REALLY bad wording, Dude. The LAST thing you should EVER call a vet is that.
You guys were playing loud music with the doors open, 50 yds from people's homes. Of the many people that you probably irritated, one guy came to talk to you about it. He expressed that it bothered him, but from the OP, did not make any threats. He asked you to consider others, and even shared his personal experience about why it was particularly difficult for him.
I get that it was uncomfortable for you, and certainly reasonable for you to have had your guard up out of concern for what he might do. But he was apparently self-aware enough not to make threats, as many people would have. Keep in mind that you guys created the situation, and from his POV, his choices were to sit there and stew, talk to you, call the cops, or do something irrational. He chose to talk to you, as people.
Have you ever heard the expression, "If you have a problem with me, then why don't you say it to my face?" That's what he did. Nobody got hurt, and when he spoke his peace, he left.
I can't take your side just because you play bass. You were annoying people and he came to talk to you about it. If he had made a threat, then it would be different.
Find another place to practice. Look for a place with sound isolation and climate control. Then move on and be the kick-ass band that you want to be.
I get that it was uncomfortable for you, and certainly reasonable for you to have had your guard up out of concern for what he might do. But he was apparently self-aware enough not to make threats, as many people would have. Keep in mind that you guys created the situation, and from his POV, his choices were to sit there and stew, talk to you, call the cops, or do something irrational. He chose to talk to you, as people.
Have you ever heard the expression, "If you have a problem with me, then why don't you say it to my face?" That's what he did. Nobody got hurt, and when he spoke his peace, he left.
I can't take your side just because you play bass. You were annoying people and he came to talk to you about it. If he had made a threat, then it would be different.
Find another place to practice. Look for a place with sound isolation and climate control. Then move on and be the kick-ass band that you want to be.
Something about climbing a 7ft barbed wire fence with bloodied hands doesn't seem like a rational think that most "people" do.
Yes, he had to make an extra effort to talk to the people who were created the nuisance. Does that change anything I said?
I'd first figure out what the laws are for your municipality about noise. Where I live, they use an audible noise rule. This means a policeman should NOT be able to hear the music any further than 500 feet away from the source, and the music should only happen during certain times of day. Figure that out so at least you know whether you, yourself are in the wrong.
The other alternative is to turn down. Practice at a lower volume, and maybe open up only the doors that don't face the apartments, if that is possible. See about bringing in fans if you really like the place so you can keep the doors closed...
I'd be careful with the guy, though.
The other alternative is to turn down. Practice at a lower volume, and maybe open up only the doors that don't face the apartments, if that is possible. See about bringing in fans if you really like the place so you can keep the doors closed...
I'd be careful with the guy, though.
That's terrifying. I would definitely call the police if he comes back. You never want your rehearsal space compromised by shady and/or disturbed people. I would definitely suggest keeping the doors shut and investing in some fans/ac.
calling the authorities to report a trespass and menacing is being a jerk?
are you serious?
Dude. Anyone that comes to me barking like a dog, with bloody knuckles and acting like he owns the place deserve the 911. I don't care who you are and what you do, but not being able to express yourself in a civilized manner is unacceptable. You got a problem, come talk to me in a polite manner, like an adult, and we'll sort it out.
This applies to ANY human beings on this planet. Playing tough guy or whacko to make your point valid will never work with me. Again, I would not argue one bit and dial 911 in his face to let him know that this kind of behaviour doesn't float around today in 2016. We're not cavemen.
Bullying is not the way to go.
Well that's certainly a different take on it. Let's just ignore that the guy showed every sign of being half unhinged.
