Got a Manta Ray 3-band on its way. It should be here by next week latest. Gonna run this Harley Benton MB5 thru it and see how it shakes out. Excited!
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Got my Super 300 shipping notification and so begins the final countdown!
Can not wait!
Can not wait!
Just for kicks I snagged a SV-pre to compare to my much beloved Super 300. The SV is a terrific pedal in its own right, and has great features. A sweet pedal indeed, with lots of sound shaping control. But as good as it is (and it really is), the 300 outshines the SV in the magic sauce dept for my tastes. For presence and punch the 300 is the ballz, and I feel like there's no sound I can't pull out of it.
For icing on the cake I put a Grizzly bass fuzz right after the 300. Finally, a fuzz that sounds "right" to my ears. Next up, I need to run all this stuff through the effects loop on my Iamp 800. Could I be even more impressed?...we'll see.
For icing on the cake I put a Grizzly bass fuzz right after the 300. Finally, a fuzz that sounds "right" to my ears. Next up, I need to run all this stuff through the effects loop on my Iamp 800. Could I be even more impressed?...we'll see.
Seeing my shipment headed towards Vancouver and USPS Seattle is such a relief. USPS Chicago is the place packages go and never return
Awhile back I posted about Super 300 versus the Origin Bassrig SV. I suppose I still lean a bit toward the Bassrig, but the difference in tone is too slight (to my ears) to justify the huge difference in price, except perhaps when money is no object.
Context is that I'm a bar band guy, don't do any recording. One could argue that the 5-position mid on the Super is especially valuable here.
I doubt I'll be trying a $$$ Origin. Yeah a quick flick of the 300 mid selector is a sweet feature. I may want to investigate the Super 400 next, but at some point this rolling drives has to end! (or not)
Super 100 arrived today! I've gotten to play around with it, and I also took it to a rehearsal. It's very versatile, it can do sounds all the way from subtle to aggressive. Having the normal/bright channel on knobs is quite intuitive for me.
I recently wired a similar setup, since I received my S100 a couple of weeks ago. Already gigged with it, tone wise the difference was on another level! All I can say is that I love my ME pedals and they shaped my tone to a level that I was trying to reach for years with limited resources!
But I am having difficulties taming the Golden Ratio either before or after in the chain when using the S100. If I put it before the GR I get a very loud modulation signal, if I put it after then I get a very muddy chorus that I don't like, so for now until I can find a solution to this I switch off the S100 and leave the transmission and Golden Ratio on, until I have more time to experiment, since the band schedule is kinda heavy the past few months.
I am trying to get close to Peter Hook's tone especially the mid 80s brotherhood/pc&l/lowlife era, since I play in a band that uses a lot of synths and I am the only stringed instrument.
Any useful suggestions based on your setup, since I can see we are aiming for a similar kind of tone/sound?
I'd love to hear some sort of sound sample with it, especially from your Thunderbird.
As for Peter Hook, not sure if what I'm thinking of is from earlier than the albums you mentioned, but didn't he often play in the higher frets? And also a Ric?
Peter Hook definitely tended to play higher-register stuff and strumming sharply like a guitarist (more like a lead instrument), but those New Order albums would have been made in his Yamaha P-bass era I believe. I’m not sure when he first got his Shergold Bass VI but it was also heavily featured in his New Order years alongside various Yamaha Ps and PJs. He played a Japanese Rickenbacker copy in Joy Divosion for a time, but pretty sure it wasn’t ever part of his New Order gear.
That sounds typical of the EHX Clone Theory that the GR is based on! A big part of what gives that pedal its specific tone is a relative lack of high-end filtering vs most BBD-based chorus pedals (particularly the "Edge" switch versions) that give a sharper attack and edge to the delayed tone. Run that into an amp with Fender-type passive EQ that has a pretty wide treble boost and mid-cut at most settings like the DR103 and you are playing with fire! I had very similar issues running a modded EHX Small Clone I had (as well as a newer version Clone Theory) into a Rusty Box preamp (which also uses a Fender-style EQ with alot of high-end boost)- what would be a moderate hiss from the chorus would come right up front with the Rusty engaged. Also worth trying to use isolated power for either or both pedals though too (if you aren't already), as LFO/clock noise can get into the power signal when daisy-chaining power with analog delay-based effects in my experience.
A quote from an engineer about Peter Hook in the studio for Brotherhood: "Peter Hook's bass on this was very hissy, originally. The phasers and pre-amplification he uses to make his bass sound create a lot of hiss on the tape, and if you rub it out you get rid of a lot of his sound as well. I just put a mic in front of his amp and recorded what came out." State of the art (Sound On Sound, Feb 1987)
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I run it with a voodoo lab pedal power 2 plus, it is meant to be true isolated, to be honest I knew the clone theory issues, used to own a modern clone theory a few years ago and had similar issues, the GR is way better in that respect, and is relatively quiet when I run it just after the transmission preamp and put a slight reverb at the end. But when the S100 comes in then the problem starts! But I guess I need to figure out the setting that behave better!
I will try to get some sound samples as soon as I get some spare time. As for the T-bird I am afraid it is not with me anymore, replaced it with a Yamaha BB300. Although my main bass is a precision
As for PH, the era I am referring to, he used a Yamaha BB1200s, so here's where the transmission preamp comes into the picture. The Ric as mentioned above by sunbeast was a Hondo Ric copy that Hook used a few times, unfortunately one of the times was the show the transmission video was shot, so there is a misconception that he used a RIC.
OK, so. Here's a rough demo. Cell phone mic, and I didn't have the volume up that loud, so there's a fair amount of clicky-clack from the acoustic sound from the bass that does make it harder to hear the differences in pedals, sorry. And yeah, the playing is mediocre.
Yamaha BB-2000, neck pickup only, though the pedal board into a Genzler 800 and PJB C2 cab.
Yamaha BB-2000, neck pickup only, though the pedal board into a Genzler 800 and PJB C2 cab.
Doesnt sound bad.... maybe try a lightning boy 2020 somewhere . Worked for my gtr rig for a similar issue...
