McGregor- Mayweather

[bassbully]

The whole match was setup to make bank and for that I had little interest. Boxing is almost dead and this got it some spark for the first time in years. CM was looking for a payday and he knew where to go...smart. As for the fight I knew FM would beat him it only surprise was it to ok 10 rounds. Floyd said after the fight it was his plan all Along to wear him out and with that give the people their money's worth. FM from what I saw of the tape was unscathed and in total control. It was his fight to end whenever he wanted.

 

[BrianVengeance]

Not really. You could tell CM was gassing even in round 4. He fought Diaz for 5 rounds and 25 minutes and got a second wind to beat Diaz in the last round. It wasnt a matter of just his "regular mma" training not cutting it, as you suppose. They surely would have known he should have been in the BEST CONDITIONED SHAPE to have chance, but they slacked.

By the way, have you boxed or done MMA ever? I've done both.

For the record, I think FM made it last longer than he needed to so they could set up a bigger paying, more hyped rematch.

I’ve wrestled and done some boxing, and there is specific conditioning required for each sport. I’m not saying that McGregor wasn’t gassing early, just that they are not the same. Anything that isn’t instinctual when you’re later in a match costs energy and slows you down, and Mcgregors lack of experience in the ring really showed.

You could also clearly see the hallmarks of his MMA training - lower / wider hands, hammer strikes, pummeling, working hooks inside the clench and hipping out, taking the back from standing when he had the side, etc. Mayweather was starting to have him dialed in by the end of the third (feint left to the body drawing out the counter left uppercut), and he was reasonably clever about drawing out CMs MMA instincts (low head, turning his back).

Mayweather simply had better experience and was in better shape for the fight. He probably could have taken him by the 8th.

All in all, it was still pretty entertaining and I enjoyed it.

 

[ZenG]

The Mighty Blowhard lost. Good enough for me.

 

[Plake]

I'm not surprised by the outcome at all. The under/over was 9.5.

 

[FingerDub]

All very good points.

I’ve wrestled and done some boxing, and there is specific conditioning required for each sport. I’m not saying that McGregor wasn’t gassing early, just that they are not the same. Anything that isn’t instinctual when you’re later in a match costs energy and slows you down, and Mcgregors lack of experience in the ring really showed.

You could also clearly see the hallmarks of his MMA training - lower / wider hands, hammer strikes, pummeling, working hooks inside the clench and hipping out, taking the back from standing when he had the side, etc. Mayweather was starting to have him dialed in by the end of the third (feint left to the body drawing out the counter left uppercut), and he was reasonably clever about drawing out CMs MMA instincts (low head, turning his back).

Mayweather simply had better experience and was in better shape for the fight. He probably could have taken him by the 8th.

All in all, it was still pretty entertaining and I enjoyed it.

I’ve wrestled and done some boxing, and there is specific conditioning required for each sport. I’m not saying that McGregor wasn’t gassing early, just that they are not the same. Anything that isn’t instinctual when you’re later in a match costs energy and slows you down, and Mcgregors lack of experience in the ring really showed.

You could also clearly see the hallmarks of his MMA training - lower / wider hands, hammer strikes, pummeling, working hooks inside the clench and hipping out, taking the back from standing when he had the side, etc. Mayweather was starting to have him dialed in by the end of the third (feint left to the body drawing out the counter left uppercut), and he was reasonably clever about drawing out CMs MMA instincts (low head, turning his back).

Mayweather simply had better experience and was in better shape for the fight. He probably could have taken him by the 8th.

All in all, it was still pretty entertaining and I enjoyed it.

 

[ShredderMaximus]

I don't know much about MMA or boxing, but it seemed to me that if you looked at this fight in the context of a retired 40 year old vs a 29 yr old who's in the middle of his career that the fight didn't seem close at all. I mean, I'm 42 and it would take a tremendous amount of working out to get in the same overall shape as an average guy in his late twenties. Like I said I don't know boxing, but it seems almost unbelievable to me that the 40 yrs old guy looked fresh as a daisy in that fight and the young guy looked wrung out half the time.

Yeah, at the end FM didn't even look like he'd been in a fight!

From the beginning you could tell what FM was playing. 12 punches thrown in the first two rounds? Yeah, he played CM like a fiddle.

 

[58kites]

Yeah, at the end FM didn't even look like he'd been in a fight!

From the beginning you could tell what FM was playing. 12 punches thrown in the first two rounds? Yeah, he played CM like a fiddle.

Yeah, neither one of them had any marks after the fight.
FM was smart, he beat Conner by letting him wear himself out while Floyd ducked and covered like he does.
It was obvious Conner was having a very hard time following boxing rules, it made him ineffective and wore him out constantly fighting his instincts and training.
His inexperience was a much bigger deal than he thought it would be.
It was definitely a boxing match and not a fight (for Conner), but I think he learned a lot.
It was entertaining, but nothing nearly as interesting an any MMA fight I've watched in the last 10 years.
My son said the flyweight ladies fights of MMA were more interesting than this match turned out to be!

 

[smeet]

Yeah, neither one of them had any marks after the fight.
FM was smart, he beat Conner by letting him wear himself out while Floyd ducked and covered like he does.
It was obvious Conner was having a very hard time following boxing rules, it made him ineffective and wore him out constantly fighting his instincts and training.
His inexperience was a much bigger deal than he thought it would be.
It was definitely a boxing match and not a fight (for Conner), but I think he learned a lot.
It was entertaining, but nothing nearly as interesting an any MMA fight I've watched in the last 10 years.
My son said the flyweight ladies fights of MMA were more interesting than this match turned out to be!

Agreed. I enjoyed boxing in the days of Ali, Foreman, and Tyson. These days for me it doesn't hold a candle to MMA (both women and men). And to me this was a more interesting boxing match than most.

Also, I haven't heard anybody say this, but I felt Byrd (the ref) was letting Floyd get away with lots of cheap shots, but calling Conner on every little thing. Pretty uneven reffing. Not that it affected the outcome of the match, but it was there. But it seems that Floyd has learned over the years exactly how to skirt the rules just enough to benefit himself the most.

 

[Roy Royerson]

So will we see more of this mma vs boxing in the future? Mcgregor Vs Malignaggi could be next for the obnoxious Irishman. I can't say I really want to see it but then agian I'll probably watch a pirated version online. Malignaggi can't wait for the payday and they've already got the circus started.

Personally I hope Mcgregor goes back to MMA and defends his belt at 155 to one or more top contenders. I'd like to see him fight more 145 fights but I think he's probably done with that weight class for good reason. He'll probably only go after the highest dollar fight like Nate Diaz or the soon to return GSP. I can't blame him for chasing the big money but I'd like to see the UFC and all MMA matchmaking be more performance based and less about who sells tickets. It's not like the NBA, NFL and MLB just put their most popular and highest selling teams in the finals without a competitive structure.

 

[58kites]

Agreed. I enjoyed boxing in the days of Ali, Foreman, and Tyson. These days for me it doesn't hold a candle to MMA (both women and men). And to me this was a more interesting boxing match than most.

Also, I haven't heard anybody say this, but I felt Byrd (the ref) was letting Floyd get away with lots of cheap shots, but calling Conner on every little thing. Pretty uneven reffing. Not that it affected the outcome of the match, but it was there. But it seems that Floyd has learned over the years exactly how to skirt the rules just enough to benefit himself the most.

I didn't say what I thought about the ref because I thought somebody would say I'm bitching over nothing. I thought the ref was looking at Conner only through the whole fight and was yanking on Conner's arms and pulling and pushing him too much, but Conner was falling into rabbit punches if left alone.
Also Floyd kept bending so far over that all he was presenting was the back if his head and his back and every time Conner tried to hit the only targets that were there, he got reprimanded.

 

[MJ5150]

Wow, I did not realize Floyd Mayweather has a history of domestic abuse dating back to 2001.
That is deplorable.
I don't understand how anyone would pay a penny to watch this man do anything.

-Mike

 

[ShredderMaximus]

I didn't say what I thought about the ref because I thought somebody would say I'm bitching over nothing. I thought the ref was looking at Conner only through the whole fight and was yanking on Conner's arms and pulling and pushing him too much, but Conner was falling into rabbit punches if left alone.
Also Floyd kept bending so far over that all he was presenting was the back if his head and his back and every time Conner tried to hit the only targets that were there, he got reprimanded.

Yeah I noticed that too, like he was trying to get CM dq'd. And even when he completely spun around and gave CM his back, it was like "suplex me, I dare you." It got to the point where me and my friends were laughing every time CM started dropping hammer punches.

 

[ShredderMaximus]

Wow, I did not realize Floyd Mayweather has a history of domestic abuse dating back to 2001.
That is deplorable.
I don't understand how anyone would pay a penny to watch this man do anything.

-Mike

I just heard about that too. I feel like a fool for telling people I was happy he pulled off a final win to end his career all day.

 

[ZenG]

Wow, I did not realize Floyd Mayweather has a history of domestic abuse dating back to 2001.
That is deplorable.
I don't understand how anyone would pay a penny to watch this man do anything.

-Mike

The UFC has people like him in it too. As do many other sports.

I'm still glad Mayweather won.

 

[groooooove]

i paid for the fight and felt i got the show i paid for. would've loved to see mcgregor pull off an amazing victory, but fully understand his real world chanes were somewhere around 1/100. it was great to see floyd retire on an entertaining fight.

had no problem with the stoppage. the fight was over.

pretty tired of hearing people say that now floyd needs to fight conor in an MMA fight. he'd have better chances single handedly playing against the new england patriots in a full blow football game.

 

[fingerguy]

...pretty tired of hearing people say that now floyd needs to fight conor in an MMA fight. he'd have better chances single handedly playing against the new england patriots in a full blow football game.

I agree. The dude is 40, ended with a perfect record of 50 & 0. Leave the man alone and bath in his millions.

 

[blue4]

Any 40 yr old, even a 40 yr old former MMA fighter, in MMA seems to me would be in a huge disadvantage.

 

[58kites]

i paid for the fight and felt i got the show i paid for. would've loved to see mcgregor pull off an amazing victory, but fully understand his real world chanes were somewhere around 1/100. it was great to see floyd retire on an entertaining fight.

had no problem with the stoppage. the fight was over.

Pretty tired of hearing people say that now Floyd needs to fight Connor in an MMA fight, he'd have better chances single handedly playing against the New England Patriots in a full blown football game.

I agree an MMA fight would be a massive joke.
The fight would last about 20 seconds.
They could give Mayweather a year to prepare and it would not be enough to make a bit of difference.
Even if they wrote a contract that the fight would be restricted to standing up fighting only, Conner would still make short work of Floyd.
Queensbury Boxing rules killed McGregor, which everybody knew would be the challenge.
If they had done a Muay Thai vs Boxing type fight Mayweather would have gotten beaten unconscious quickly.
Even if they restricted it to no kicks but allowed the type of striking MMA does (grabbing/clinching and striking (MMA gloves) and rabbit punches) the fight they had would have been completely different, the first time Floyd bent over or turned his back would have been the last and they could have gotten on with a fight.
The referee breaking the clinches in three seconds, and Floyd bending over and turning his back gave Mayweather a great place to hide while Conner wore himself out in frustration, but those were the rules.
The match did show how far boxing actually is from fighting, which is why it is so boring after watching MMA fights.
In the last decade or two, I've watched Judo matches and Sumo matches that were more interesting than watching Boxing.

 

[GregC]

I agree an MMA fight would be a massive joke.
The fight would last about 20 seconds.
They could give Mayweather a year to prepare and it would not be enough to make a bit of difference.
Even if they wrote a contract that the fight would be restricted to standing up fighting only, Conner would still make short work of Floyd.
Queensbury Boxing rules killed McGregor, which everybody knew would be the challenge.
If they had done a Muay Thai vs Boxing type fight Mayweather would have gotten beaten unconscious quickly.
Even if they restricted it to no kicks but allowed the type of striking MMA does (grabbing/clinching and striking (MMA gloves) and rabbit punches) the fight they had would have been completely different, the first time Floyd bent over or turned his back would have been the last and they could have gotten on with a fight.
The referee breaking the clinches in three seconds, and Floyd bending over and turning his back gave Mayweather a great place to hide while Conner wore himself out in frustration, but those were the rules.
The match did show how far boxing actually is from fighting, which is why it is so boring after watching MMA fights.
In the last decade or two, I preferred watching Judo matches and Sumo over Boxing.
Roman Greco wrestling matches are still hard to watch for very long.

Let's not forget the fact, though, that Mayweather is 40 and hadn't fought in more than two years. McGregor is 29. Maybe a skilled boxer of the same age and size, with months to prepare, would make for a decent MMA match.

 

[TOOL460002]

Let's not forget the fact, though, that Mayweather is 40 and hadn't fought in more than two years. McGregor is 29. Maybe a skilled boxer of the same age and size, with months to prepare, would make for a decent MMA match.

I would be willing to bet GGG would pull higher PPV numbers in the UFC, only because he hasn't been able to draw much in boxing, not because people want to see him in the cage so badly. I think it's so strange that boxing pays so well when it's clearly less popular (on average). Boxing may always have pockets of popularity, but in my lifetime (I'm 33) things have taken a massive nose dive. But folks have been saying that for a while. I'm not that witty or prescient.