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Mesa/Boogie Official Club Thread

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KJung said:
Take a look at the vintage powerhouse cab page. Based on the 212, this combo weighs a touch over 100 pounds.
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What?! Really?! I'm glad I didn't know that BEFORE I picked it up and put it in and out of the car. :D LOL

It probably does, but you wouldn't know it by the way it feels. I do know that I would not have guessed that much. With the handle and wheels, it is very transportable.

I know it sounds HUGE. And that is very, very good.
 
#543
I just bought a used Mesa cab, in perfect condition btw, to go with my "new" 400+ that I got last sunday.
It's a 1x15", 8 ohm, 400W cab without a horn.
I've never seen this cab before (actually, I've never seen ANY Mesa cab because they are rare here), does anyone recognize it?
Scrolling through this thread I noticed some of you guys have this cab or something that looks similar.
It obviously is not a powerhouse cab. The guy who sold it gave me this:

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The tag says it's a D15 but I can't find it on the net (tried to google it).
He told me he bought it new in 1997.
I looked at the Mesa website but it's not listed with the "out of production" stuff.

The cabinets looks like this:

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And because this is the Mesa/Boogie Club I just show a little more pics of my new toys ... sorry, can't help it :rolleyes:

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I know the rack is still too empty, but I'm going to replace it with a shockmount rack. I want the tubes to know they're in good hands now :D

The last one:
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Ciao,

KN
 
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#545
Norre said:
I just bought a used Mesa cab, in perfect condition btw, to go with my "new" 400+ that I got last sunday.
It's a 1x15", 8 ohm, 400W cab without a horn.
I've never seen this cab before (actually, I've never seen ANY Mesa cab because they are rare here), does anyone recognize it?
Scrolling through this thread I noticed some of you guys have this cab or something that looks similar.
It obviously is not a powerhouse cab. The guy who sold it gave me this:
The tag says it's a D15 but I can't find it on the net (tried to google it).
He told me he bought it new in 1997.
I looked at the Mesa website but it's not listed with the "out of production" stuff.
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Someone here may be able to help, but I'd also say check with Mesa directly on this via email if a phone call is too expensive.
 
#547
It's a Diesel 1x15EV. Ported, no tweeter. It's a badass cab. I have the 2x15EV version. The Diesels were made in the mid-80s through the 90s, and were replaced by Powerhouse cabs in around 1999-2000. I think they stopped using EV speakers in the early 90's, but I'm not sure.

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#548
Norre said:
I checked their website and there's no email on it, just a phone number. I'm not worried about the cost of the phone call, I'm just afraid they won't understand me. I have a bad Belgian accent :p
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Well I was surprised to find they don't have an email address, but of course you are correct. I was gonna' call for you, but K-Funk took care of us nicely on this. Thanks K-Funk! :)
 
#552
Its an older brand called Electro Voice that made top-of-the-line speakers. They're more vintage-sounding than the modern Eminence speakers they use in the Powerhouse cabs today, and some people prefer that sound. The EV 15's are famous for having a lot more top-end and punch than other 15's.

Back in the 80's, Mesa was in direct competition with another amp company called ADA, who also used EV speakers.
 
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K-Funk said:
Its an older brand called Electro Voice that made top-of-the-line speakers. They're more vintage-sounding than the modern Eminence speakers they use in the Powerhouse cabs today, and some people prefer that sound. The EV 15's are famous for having a lot more top-end and punch than other 15's.
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+1

I remember back in the 80's I was into Gauss, JBL (E and K series), some other stuff, and the EV speakers. Of all those, the EV's sounded the best to me, and there was even a specific flavor that had a cream colored magnet can that was highly desirable... I think discontinued and considered somewhat vintage even in the 80's. I had a couple TL "reference" 15 "cube" cabs that had those loaded in them and they were awesome. Eventually, I moved away from the more classic tone to the more modern, with 10's and 12's and horns, but back in those days, it was definitely EV's for me. IMHO, I always felt they worked better as instrument speakers. I always felt the Gauss and JBL speakers were better for sound reinforcement (FOH/PA) applications.
 
#556
Vic said:
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I remember back in the 80's I was into Gauss, JBL (E and K series), some Peavey Black Widow, and the EV speakers. Of all those, the EV's sounded the best to me, and there was even a specific flavor that had a cream colored magnet can that was highly desirable... I think discontinued and considered somewhat vintage even in the 80's. I had a couple TL "reference" 15 "cube" cabs that had these loaded in them and they were awesome. Eventually, I moved away from the more classic tone to the more modern, with 10's and 12's and horns, but back in those days, it was definitely EV's for me. IMHO, I always felt they worked better as instrument speakers. I always felt the Gauss and JBL speakers were better for sound reinforcement (FOH/PA) applications.
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I too preferred the EV 15's for bass versus the JBL speakers available in the 70's and 80's. The EV's seems to have more mid punch to them, versus the very wide and pure JBL sound. I too had some TL cubes with EV 15's and 12's, and they were to shelf in the day (mid 70's for me).
 
#557
Norre said:
I just bought a used Mesa cab, in perfect condition btw, to go with my "new" 400+ that I got last sunday.
It's a 1x15", 8 ohm, 400W cab without a horn.
I've never seen this cab before (actually, I've never seen ANY Mesa cab because they are rare here), does anyone recognize it?
Scrolling through this thread I noticed some of you guys have this cab or something that looks similar.
It obviously is not a powerhouse cab. The guy who sold it gave me this:


The tag says it's a D15 but I can't find it on the net (tried to google it).
He told me he bought it new in 1997.
I looked at the Mesa website but it's not listed with the "out of production" stuff.

KN
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What you have there is an older style, Diesel 115. It must be pretty old - it looks like it was play tested by Tien Lawrence, who heads up their artist relations department now. It's a fairly common older 15 for them - I had a RR version of that for a long time. It should be loaded with a EV 15L, which are highly sought after - they are very focussed in the midrange, and are great rock speakers.

Norre said:
Thanks K-Funk! And Vic for willing to make a call for me ;)

The seller told me it still had its original EV speaker.
I have no clue what an EV speaker is. Is it a big deal?
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EV stands for Electro-Voice, and it can be a big deal if you're into that kind of thing. I personally favor the older style Mesa cabs with EV drivers, as they are more midrange focussed and have a more oldschool tone, rather than the more modern, scooped mids approach that their newer cabs seem to favor.
 
#558
The Growler said:
What?! Really?! I'm glad I didn't know that BEFORE I picked it up and put it in and out of the car. :D LOL

It probably does, but you wouldn't know it by the way it feels. I do know that I would not have guessed that much. With the handle and wheels, it is very transportable.

I know it sounds HUGE. And that is very, very good.
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Is it truly easy to lift and load or do you have to act macho and risk injury?

I can't imagine a 100 lb+ combo. Seems to defeat the major purpose of having a combo - to save weight, IMO. I think that's why SWR's Black Beauty combo failed, which was something like 120 lbs. Ridiculous. It was meant to replace the old Basic Black series combos which were 40 lbs of total awesome.

Anyway, I dig my Scout and a bigger/badder Mesa combo appeals to me in theory ... though not at 100 lbs+. Maybe I'll try loading it in/out of my car at the store and see what that's like.
 
#559
SMASH said:
Is it truly easy to lift and load or do you have to act macho and risk injury?

I can't imagine a 100 lb+ combo. Seems to defeat the major purpose of having a combo - to save weight, IMO. I think that's why SWR's Black Beauty combo failed, which was something like 120 lbs. Ridiculous. It was meant to replace the old Basic Black series combos which were 40 lbs of total awesome.

Anyway, I dig my Scout and a bigger/badder Mesa combo appeals to me in theory ... though not at 100 lbs+. Maybe I'll try loading it in/out of my car at the store and see what that's like.
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+1 Mesa uses neo speakers now, but still puts them in those massive cabs with the massive bracing and heavy wood. I guess that's one of the reasons they sound so good, but they are just stupid heavy. I checked out the M6 through the Powerhouse 610 and it was just simpy amazing. Then, I tried to tilt the cab back to check the weight, and it literally wouldn't budge. When I got home, I saw that it was 135 pounds and almost 20" deep:eek::eek::eek:
 
#560
KJung said:
+1 Mesa uses neo speakers now, but still puts them in those massive cabs with the massive bracing and heavy wood. I guess that's one of the reasons they sound so good, but they are just stupid heavy. I checked out the M6 through the Powerhouse 610 and it was just simpy amazing. Then, I tried to tilt the cab back to check the weight, and it literally wouldn't budge. When I got home, I saw that it was 135 pounds and almost 20" deep:eek::eek::eek:
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Actually, I believe only the 12" speakers are neo. My 1x12's are definitely not light for a 1x12, but they are under 50lbs which is basically my limit for a single "smallish" cab. I love the cabs a lot, and if I could get the sound in a 10-15lb lighter package I would be willing to spend the cash.

I actually think the new Berg HT112ER's sound somewhat similar, but I hate the one handle on top thing, it makes the Bergs more akward to carry and makes the Mesa's seem lighter.
 
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