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MESA/BOOGIE TT-800 Questions

#141
Spacecoastbass said:
I encourage you to dig in the manual too. Guaranteed that you’ll learn not just some history of the company but about audio and amplification.

I get it. It’s a man thing. I’m no longer a full time musician but a pilot by profession. Manuals can be a snooze fest. It’s not thick in size but full of great stuff!

But hey you can always ask questions…. Curiosity keeps you young but discovery gives wisdom.
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The manual was written by several guys with ties to aviation though, and with a final read-through by a couple of 73 captains (one freshly retired) as well as a now retired Air Force engineer with flight line infrastructure design experience... Al Kraft and I are the musicians of the group. The manuals have to make reasonable sense to players of all levels and this is what it takes.

My dad designed inertial/radio attitude control systems for spacecraft (Mariner Mars Probe) and (Northrup/Nortronics avionics) and I followed partly in his footsteps (EE degree with analog power & control systems specialty). Al Kraft is was and still is more actively involved in the highest level of naval aviation, his ME background is far more impressive than mine will ever be.

We put a lot of effort into making the Subway manuals very information-dense yet a reasonably easy and educational read. If a player is going to spend a premium on higher end gear, the manual should rise to the occasion as well (at least in our collective opinions).
 
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#142
agedhorse said:
The manual was written by several guys with ties to aviation though, and with a final read-through by a couple of 73 captains (one freshly retired) as well as a now retired Air Force engineer with flight line infrastructure design experience... Al Kraft and I are the musicians of the group. The manuals have to make reasonable sense to players of all levels and this is what it takes.

My dad designed inertial/radio attitude control systems for spacecraft (Mariner Mars Probe) and (Northrup/Nortronics avionics) and I followed partly in his footsteps (EE degree with analog power & control systems specialty). Al Kraft is was and still is more actively involved in the highest level of naval aviation, his ME background is far more impressive than mine will ever be.

We put a lot of effort into making the Subway manuals very information-dense yet a reasonably easy and educational read. If a player is going to spend a premium on higher end gear, the manual should rise to the occasion as well (at least in our collective opinions).
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Well I think you guys did a great job!
 
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#143
Old Ozzie Guy said:
I agree with above, Definitely don't skip through the manual.. there's a wealth of info, that is specific for the TT..
Also, don't be afraid to ask questions to the kind folks on TB.. I asked some pretty "kooky" ones, all have been patiently answered.
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Ive been reading it a bunch since im actually going to own it now! Its very informative and easy to understand.
 
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#145
ole Jason said:
I bought a used TT that, unfortunately, didn't come with the bag. I thought it would fit in my old Aguilar bag but the opening isn't quite wide enough to get the amp in even though it would fit otherwise.

Is the Mesa bag the best option? I don't need anything too heavy duty
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Some of the folks use these. They were on sale this last weekend, not now though 😔

They come in different colors, I just happened to be on the yellow when I grabbed the link.

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ole Jason said:
Nice, I don't really want a hard case but also not too hype on dropping a hundred bucks on a bag either lol. I can live with a hard case though and Harbor Freight is just down the street I'll keep an eye out for the next sale. I use a smaller version of that case for my recording gear it's great.
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Mesa has them online for $75
 
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#148
agedhorse said:
The manual was written by several guys with ties to aviation though, and with a final read-through by a couple of 73 captains (one freshly retired) as well as a now retired Air Force engineer with flight line infrastructure design experience... Al Kraft and I are the musicians of the group. The manuals have to make reasonable sense to players of all levels and this is what it takes.

My dad designed inertial/radio attitude control systems for spacecraft (Mariner Mars Probe) and (Northrup/Nortronics avionics) and I followed partly in his footsteps (EE degree with analog power & control systems specialty). Al Kraft is was and still is more actively involved in the highest level of naval aviation, his ME background is far more impressive than mine will ever be.

We put a lot of effort into making the Subway manuals very information-dense yet a reasonably easy and educational read. If a player is going to spend a premium on higher end gear, the manual should rise to the occasion as well (at least in our collective opinions).
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We did put a lot of quality time and thought into the manual. In many ways we were guided by the types of questions we see here on TB. The goal was to both satisfy those folks who like to have some detail about what's going on under the hood, as well as make it easy for players who just want know enough about the design to get started so they can explore the capabilities.

As far as engineering accomplishments go, I've done some cool stuff, but I'm really glad I never had to compete with Andy in the EE world and especially not in amplifier and speaker design. :thumbsup:
 
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Al Kraft said:
As far as engineering accomplishments go, I've done some cool stuff, but I'm really glad I never had to compete with Andy in the EE world and especially not in amplifier and speaker design. :thumbsup:
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Yeah, but I don't imagine that you bring a knife to a gun fight ;)
 
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#152
I love how this amp sounds alot, but I am not crazy about the sound when I have the boogie channel driven. It seems like its too fat sounds like the speakers are farting out, but this amp clean sounds fantastic! Does anyone have any tips? I was also thinking of getting a sansamp preamp or the ampeg sgt di for a more aggressive drive. Im having a blast other than that!
 
#153
Dom Amato said:
I love how this amp sounds alot, but I am not crazy about the sound when I have the boogie channel driven. It seems like its too fat sounds like the speakers are farting out, but this amp clean sounds fantastic! Does anyone have any tips? I was also thinking of getting a sansamp preamp or the ampeg sgt di for a more aggressive drive. Im having a blast other than that!
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This is where rolling the HPF up will help. It’s covered in the manual.
 
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#154
agedhorse said:
It’s covered in the manual.
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You would probably need AI to count how many times you have said that or similar on this thread and other Mesa related post/threads[even sometimes saying that to non Mesa related posters] :)

Many of us respond[even claim before question] we have read the manual multiple times

You may need to copy and paste relevant section in manual to post and then explain in 'simple' terms what manual is saying and which knob etc. to turn/use

Most of us are Males and Bass Players to boot:)

Disclaimer: the above post was written in a tongue-in-cheek manner some may miss completely. It's ok
 
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The hpf is -24db per octave, 2x sharper slope than most (Thumpinator exception)
It works brilliantly. A common misconception with hpf's is 'I don't want to loose bottom end'. Forget the frequency, just roll it up till it sounds good to you. Don't be afraid of boosting bass, and rolling up. ..
Give yourself time, especially with the Boogie channel, it responds very differently than most..again, experiment with settings that are different to norm.. go nuts, you may be pleasantly surprised
 
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Old Ozzie Guy said:
The hpf is -24db per octave, 2x sharper slope than most (Thumpinator exception)
It works brilliantly. A common misconception with hpf's is 'I don't want to loose bottom end'. Forget the frequency, just roll it up till it sounds good to you. Don't be afraid of boosting bass, and rolling up. ..
Give yourself time, especially with the Boogie channel, it responds very differently than most..again, experiment with settings that are different to norm.. go nuts, you may be pleasantly surprised
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Excellent advice on all fronts IME!!
 
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I will make a very little change, in my advice 'to go nuts' with settings on the TT. Don't put both input AND output on full..the TT is a mighty little unit, and nothing good , will come from it.
As allways, there are exceptions with other amps .
Older Marshal guitar hds were commonly 'everything on 10', or even 11 on Nigel's heavily modded (front panel inscription), Marshal .(some of you older guys , will get the Nigel ref)
 
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#158
Well I've just pulled the trigger on a somewhat used, but In good shape, TT-800. I like this amp, and after reading through some of the thread here I'm a good deal psyched.
I was just looking at it, sitting atop a Schroeder 1210 standing on-end, thinking and marveling that I've never spent $1,000 on a bass amp before.
$1,000... Woah... (Edit) This brings the realization of the value, to me, of what I'm doing. It's worth throwing down serious bread for, I'm not 17 anymore, with my first bass and Peavey combo amp. And I'm not just settling for garage gear anymore, this is top-tier.
It was just an interesting and novel moment to have experienced. I'm still kinda taken back, but it's fine. It's just a new experience, no remorse. I've done really well on my spending for gear, and this is ok.
I'm looking forward to gigging with this little booger. I like the Boogie channel a lot, and I'm sure there'll be goodies to unpack in the Subway channel also.
I was never a real Mesa fan until now- though a friend of mine from High School ended up working for Mesa, and was Bill Wyman's bass tech for the duration of the Rolling Stones' Steel Wheels tour. He used to bug me about "Get a Mess Boogie!", but I never had the scratch...
This is going to be cool.
Great thread, I'll be hanging around!

And thanks @agedhorse for the counsel in an earlier thread of mine about the whole amplification/ speaker business. I think I'm going to let this whole thing find itself, but I've got the amplifier bit all set now. 😎
 
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