I spose the vintage Powerhouse 212 looks aesthetically like a scout, yes? Be nice to have it match up dimension wise
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Mesa Boogie Walkabout Mega-thread Pt. Tres
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Put the tubes in Steve sent me (thanks again), and OH MAN!!!! Now we're talkin'! This thing has some serious nuts! Tung-Sol in V1 spot, and JJ in V2 spot...the power is where it should be for 300 watts, the bottom is think and punchy, mids are nice a textured but clear, and highs are sweet! I'm a believer! Thanks for the help guys!
Put the tubes in Steve sent me (thanks again), and OH MAN!!!! Now we're talkin'! This thing has some serious nuts! Tung-Sol in V1 spot, and JJ in V2 spot...the power is where it should be for 300 watts, the bottom is think and punchy, mids are nice a textured but clear, and highs are sweet! I'm a believer! Thanks for the help guys!
Kewl! So with the Tung Sol in the pre slot, how far can you push the gain before you hear breakup?
Haven't been about to really open it up for extended periods tonight, but I could go almost to 2 o'clock with master at noon without any breakup at all. I'll try to give it a workout tomorrow or this weekend and report back
the master, IME, has nuttin' to do with breakup, only the input gain.
noon is where mine starts coming unglued...two would be nice, as long as "one isn't losing headroom to gain clarity."
thanks!
noon is where mine starts coming unglued...two would be nice, as long as "one isn't losing headroom to gain clarity."
thanks!
Gotcha! I'll experiment with it this weekend. Hard to compare, since my old tubes were obviously bad.
I keep a Fender Bassman 400 at our practice space, just to avoid having to schlep the M/B back and forth, and I have to say, I'm looking forward to gigging tomorrow night with the Walkabout. Maybe I'll just have to buy another for practice.
Would it be the same diff to leave the 4 Ohm speaker in the Scout and pair it with an 8 Ohm 2x12 instead?
NO! This, like crossing the beams on the Ghostbusters movie, "would be bad". The impedance is inversely proportional to the power. In the above setup, 2/3 of the power would go to the 12 and only 1/3 to the 212. You want the same power going through each cone. If its a 112/212 setup you want 8 and 4 Ohms, respectively. If you have a 4 Ohm 12 and want to keep it, get a 2nd 4 Ohm 12. At least the 2 drivers will get the same power, but it'll work the head harder for no significant volume increase (as compared to a pair of 8 Ohm 12s) for reasons I posted earlier. Another good option is simply a 4 Ohm 410 to use with the head alone.
lomo, can you recommend a specific 2x12 for pairing with my Scout?
I'll call Mesa to order a replacement 8 Ohm speaker on Monday.
Don't want to ask a bunch of your time, but what about using another Scout cab for the extension, compared to the 2x12?
I'll call Mesa to order a replacement 8 Ohm speaker on Monday.
Don't want to ask a bunch of your time, but what about using another Scout cab for the extension, compared to the 2x12?
When I ran an extension cab, I ran a mesa 8 ohm 115.
The Scout 112 cab would be fine, but, only half the cone area of a 212.
So, not better or wrose, just depends on what you need.
The Scout 112 cab would be fine, but, only half the cone area of a 212.
So, not better or wrose, just depends on what you need.
No way to know without spendin' some dough... I'll make a move and learn from it.
I really appreciate you guys taking the time to give info on this forum. As far as I know there's no place else to get this kind of practical input from people who've been there. Thanks.
I really appreciate you guys taking the time to give info on this forum. As far as I know there's no place else to get this kind of practical input from people who've been there. Thanks.
Well, yeah, there is a way to know.
Take your rig to a music store, and put a 112 under there and see if it feels like it's gonna get the job done.
Then try a 115; then a 212 or whatever interests you.
Even if it's not the brand and model you ultimately want, it'll get you a sort of feel for things.
If there's a guitar center near you, they should have mesa gear on hand to try.
Take your rig to a music store, and put a 112 under there and see if it feels like it's gonna get the job done.
Then try a 115; then a 212 or whatever interests you.
Even if it's not the brand and model you ultimately want, it'll get you a sort of feel for things.
If there's a guitar center near you, they should have mesa gear on hand to try.
good thought. I'd forgotten there's a GCenter about 90 mins away. checking to see what they've got on hand now...
I have no specific 212 recommendations. If another single 12 will do, then IMO it's another scout 12. Otherwise, pick 4 Ohm 212 of choice and give her a listen, as Chef suggests. Another creative choice is a 4 Ohm 15. I've done that with a scout 15 and it sounded great IME, and it sounds like Chef dug it with a PH15. All depends on your needs and budget.
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